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[cobragt4001]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiESfBTN-u4

I'm a huge fan of immortal technique's music and I love how this brother shares his knowledge and uses music as a platform for positive mental growth. The state of hiphop, and music in general isn't an accident. I see people argue that stupidity sells but I disagree. The industry that controls music has the power to control what's popular and what isn't through advertising. We need music that isn't detrimental to the minds of the youth and I feel like inside of pointing fingers at so call artist like Lil Wayne or Rick Ross, they're employees like Burger King employees, we need to point fingers at the bosses of these so called artist. The video is a 30+ min lecture and it's worth the listen if you enjoy perspective and discussion. Man I'm glad I grew up in an era where at least there was a little skill in hiphop left because I feel bad for tomorrow's youth.

 

[Admiral Bone to Pick]

This is way?

 

[Trojita]

This is way?

Just go with it.

 

[Dereck]

Who is Immortal Neckneek?

 

[Immaculate]

all these hip hop threads lately tho

 

[AwesomePossum]

uh, immortal technique doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and hip hop is more than one goddamn road. if you wanna' go the pseudo-intellectual pathway more power to you.

 

[FZZ]

Back in my day...

 

[Dereck]

Like the beginning of this video, right OP?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfNluQ888g4

 

[SoilBreak]

REALLY? AGAIN?

all these hip hop threads lately tho

 

[DY_nasty]

 

[cobragt4001]

uh, immortal technique doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and hip hop is more than one goddamn road. if you wanna' go the pseudo-intellectual pathway more power to you.

Yet you aint got shit to say against what he's saying. Damn you watched 30mins of it already?

 

[MuddyDonut]

hmm so you think this underground rapper from the internet is the only one who tries to be lyrical and preaches on tracks?

 

[Slayven]

If you can't find a hip hop artist that fits your tastes, then you are doing it wrong. I am not a hip hop head but even I know you don't even have to dig that hard.

 

[Jackben]

Immortal Technique...?

Are you serious right now.

 

[MercuryLS]

What does Whoopi have do to with this?

 

[Social]

I guess the new Eminem album really got the hip hop/rap juices flowing on Neogaf.

 

[solomon]

Don't get how people say HipHop is ass now -_- at this point under ground rappers are easy to find. And even at a main stream level Kendrick and some others are good.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Mackelmore is the first mainstream artist in years to actually have something to say.

 

[freenudemacusers]

ignorant rap is the best rap though

*posting from a suburb in montana

 

[Kalnos]

Yet you aint got shit to say against what he's saying. Damn you watched 30mins of it already?

I have listened to Immortal Technique before. Enough to know that his music is quite catchy while being ignorant as shit.

 

[Chichikov]

I like Immortal Technique, but "return"?
Let's not act like hip-hop in the early aughts was all politically enlightened activist stuff.
In all eras you have some rappers who deal with theme themes, they're usually not the most popular ones, if you're think they're gone you're just not looking hard enough.

 

[AwesomePossum]

Yet you aint got shit to say against what he's saying. Damn you watched 30mins of it already?

i actually enjoy immortal technique and listened to a quite a bit of him when i was younger. i still enjoy him matter of fact. he's a pretty good lyricist, but continue your higher than thou attitude. you have absolutely no idea what hip-hop is, you have no idea how the world works, but continue to spout the ignorance of which you've learned from youtube and a couple of verses.

 

[cobragt4001]

I have listened to Immortal Technique before. Enough to know that his music is quite catchy while being ignorant as shit.

Ignorant of what though?

 

[Macca]

Does Eminem say anything useful on MMLP2? I've heard a lot of people talk trash about it, but kinda interested to hear it.

Just wanted to know what fans of "intellectual" hip hop like Immortal Tech and Eminem think.

 

[cobragt4001]

i actually enjoy immortal technique and listened to a quite a bit of him when i was younger. i still enjoy him matter of fact. he's a pretty good lyricist, but continue your higher than thou attitude. you have absolutely no idea what hip-hop is, you have no idea how the world works, but continue to spout the ignorance of which you've learned from youtube and a couple of verses.

And you know how the world works right? We're talking hiphop and a lot of things are more plain and simple than you think.

 

[Dereck]

Mackelmore is the first mainstream artist in years to actually have something to say.

 

[sixteen-bit]

rap game tin foil hat

 

[Switch Back 9]

I met Tech in NYC in 2007. He was pretty short.

Political (or whatever) stuff is good once in a while but gimme dat boom bap hardcore shit all day.

 

[PBY]

Lupe makes good intellectual hip hop.

 

[Acorn]

Lupe makes good intellectual hip hop.

Made*

 

[cobragt4001]

If you can't find a hip hop artist that fits your tastes, then you are doing it wrong. I am not a hip hop head but even I know you don't even have to dig that hard.

What I'm discussing isn't that simple. I'm looking at a bigger picture here, not discussing my personally likes.

 

[Jackben]

Because unless you're underground you don't really put any thought into your lyrics.

 

[PBY]

What I'm discussing isn't that simple. I'm looking at a bigger picture here, not discussing my personally likes.

My personally likes are GOAT tho.

 

[joe2187]

I have listened to Immortal Technique before. Enough to know that his music is quite catchy while being ignorant as shit.

Seriously. He was fun in the early 00's but shit, he's a nut. One of them 9/11 truthers.

Lets get some killer mike up in this shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNsAfGDkUtk

 

[cryptic]

I don't like his political raps as they often come back as infantile and foolish after some time.
Good political raps give an opinion and clearly state that, they give personal experiences one can relate to on a micro level, not this macro level egg-head to the streets shit that guy tries.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Seems you need way more than intelligent rap OP.

 

[cobragt4001]

It's not solely about having a message but you can't deny some of the best artist of any genre were very intelligent. You don't have to discuss how the Bush family hates blacks in every song but songs without a set message can still reflect the artist's intelligence. Creativity isn't common nowadays and imo intelligence goes hand in hand with creativity.

 

[joe2187]

Lupe makes good intellectual hip hop.

He also went nuts.

 

[Vice]

People like Lupe who givd that practical advice to listeners are better than these international 9/11 truther rhymes. "Buy yo self a Camry (this nigga said a Camry?) watch that shit depreciate and then you'll understand me"

 

[Vampire On Titus]

There could not have been a better punchline for the subject of this thread than Immortal Technique.

 

[Stabby McSter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiESfBTN-u4

I'm a huge fan of immortal technique's music and I love how this brother shares his knowledge and uses music as a platform for positive mental growth. The state of hiphop, and music in general isn't an accident. I see people argue that stupidity sells but I disagree. The industry that controls music has the power to control what's popular and what isn't through advertising. We need music that isn't detrimental to the minds of the youth and I feel like inside of pointing fingers at so call artist like Lil Wayne or Rick Ross, they're employees like Burger King employees, we need to point fingers at the bosses of these so called artist. The video is a 30+ min lecture and it's worth the listen if you enjoy perspective and discussion. Man I'm glad I grew up in an era where at least there was a little skill in hiphop left because I feel bad for tomorrow's youth.

come on bro

 

[Blair]

I'm not caught up in politics
I'm no black activist on a so-called scholar's dick
I come through with the Wu and drop math
And versatile freestyle bombs and phonographs

 

[Mesoian]

Intelligence in hip hop never went anywhere.

Stupidity just got more profitable.

 

[J_Macgrady]

Yeah I know fam. Hip Hop needs that Alex Jones shit. Word is bond.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Like the beginning of this video, right OP?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfNluQ888g4

Why have I never seen this?

ignorant rap is the best rap though

*posting from a suburb in montana

Fuck yeah it is.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Kanye is probably smarter than your favorite rapper. He's rich, he's the most influential man in the game in a decade, and he's married to the hottest woman on the planet. Your faves could NOT.

 

[Slayven]

What I'm discussing isn't that simple. I'm looking at a bigger picture here, not discussing my personally likes.

The old pull up your pants argument?

 

[Mesoian]

, and he's married to the hottest woman on the planet.

Haha, no.

But taking your original statement at face value, yes, Kanye is a very smart man, who's spent years building an empire based on stupidity. Just like his wife.

 

[Macca]

Kanye is probably smarter than your favorite rapper. He's rich, he's the most influential man in the game in a decade, and he's married to the hottest woman on the planet. Your faves could NOT.

Pitbull is far more influential than Yeesus.

 

[pizza dog]

Man I'm glad I grew up in an era where at least there was a little skill in hiphop left because I feel bad for tomorrow's youth.

old man yells at cloud dot shut up