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Pastoral: To Die in the Country (trailer, clip) - the clip says it all, really, but this is the story of a childhood as imagined and embellished on film by its owner, a movie director, who, not content to simply portray his filtered memories on screen, decides to stop the film and step in it himself, inquiring and reflecting upon his choices in life and whether they could (or should) be changed along the way. A nutty and sorta brilliant kaleidoscope in more ways than one that could only be a product of the verdant 70s. And Japan.
Everything about this sounds amazing, but I'm more interested in Emperor Tomato Ketchup to be honest. Terayama's nutty, but he's not the heart of the Japanese New Wave per se; Wakamatsu's closest to the center without turning into an actual revolutionary.
 
I ought to post what I've watched in the past month, but it's kind of a lot, so in lieu of proper reviews I'll use my sophisticated new rating system "Hot or Not" combined with the pithiest summaries I can provide:

Hot:
Valerie and Her Week of Wonders (trailer) - an odd, delicate dream of a film that not only captures the feel of a fairy tale as dreamt by a beguiling, precocious Czech girl in an archaic & medieval but richly depicted time, what with its alternatively obvious and oblique symbolism and lyrical narrative and manner of editing, but also - also! - is cinematographically and musically one of the most beautiful films I've seen, out of thousands. So yes, it's basically about her period and no, that is not normally a wondrous week. Lucky girl.
I watched Jires' The Joke last night and that's pretty great too. I'd also call it lyrical but it's not pictorial really, the focus is more on the subjective sound and flashback structure. In any case it's awesome. Apparently it's the last film with which he tried to be explicitly political so I'm interested to see how he changes things up with Valerie
 
Everything about this sounds amazing, but I'm more interested in Emperor Tomato Ketchup to be honest. Terayama's nutty, but he's not the heart of the Japanese New Wave per se; Wakamatsu's closest to the center without turning into an actual revolutionary.


Tomato Ketchup is certainly different but I don't think it's must-see by any means. A lot of it is in poor taste without proper justification (simulated pederasty, beheading of a live chicken, etc.) Pastoral is more vibrant, engaging and coherent.

I really need to see Farewell to the Ark--his take on One Hundred Years of Solitude.
 
Everything about this sounds amazing, but I'm more interested in Emperor Tomato Ketchup to be honest. Terayama's nutty, but he's not the heart of the Japanese New Wave per se; Wakamatsu's closest to the center without turning into an actual revolutionary.

Totally thought I was in a music thread for a second there and we were all talking about Stereolab.
 
Gone Baby Gone

Good movie. Ben and Casey Affleck did a very good job here.
This one really flew under the radar for me. I got around to seeing it maybe a year after it's release, and was blown away that I hadn't heard more about it. Thoroughly enjoyed it then, and still do.

I went to see Gravity two nights ago, and really enjoyed the atmosphere and cinematography. That will be a purchase when it's released.
 
If it wasn't for The Bling Ring, Thor: The Dark World would be the clear frontrunner for the most boring and vapid film I've seen all year. So much good art direction is wasted on a film that's nearly 2 hours long and had probably 30 minutes worth of actual plot.
 
12 Years a Slave:

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What was Brad Pitt doing in this one tho
 
Anyone else here get annoyed when someone gives you shit for having not seen something? Within my group of friends I'm known as the person who watches a lot of films so whenever there's a well known film that's considered "artsy" or famous or something everyone knows of, I always catch flack if I haven't seen it, even though they haven't either. Got shit tonight because I've never seen The Graduate. I'm sure I'll get around to it some day, but it's not really high up on my list.

I love countering with something like "Oh well have you seen Breathless? Or 8 1/2? How about Wild Strawberries, High and Low, The Great Dictator or The Rules of the Game? Oh you've never heard of those? They must be shit and not important then, but because I haven't seen The Graduate, I'm an idiot."
 
I could have accepted Pitt's performance as a mere oddity had he not looked like White Jesus, which creates unfortunate religious symbology that has nothing to do with anything else. I think he just had to be in the movie because he was producing it, so McQueen tossed him the most one-dimensional character.

Edit: If they're pissing you off, recommend Salo and bore them to death.
 
Anyone else here get annoyed when someone gives you shit for having not seen something? Within my group of friends I'm known as the person who watches a lot of films so whenever there's a well known film that's considered "artsy" or famous or something everyone knows of, I always catch flack if I haven't seen it, even though they haven't either. Got shit tonight because I've never seen The Graduate. I'm sure I'll get around to it some day, but it's not really high up on my list.

I love countering with something like "Oh well have you seen Breathless? Or 8 1/2? How about Wild Strawberries, High and Low, The Great Dictator or The Rules of the Game? Oh you've never heard of those? They must be shit and not important then, but because I haven't seen The Graduate, I'm an idiot."

heh yeah I get this a lot from my siblings and from some groups of friends. I'm sometimes annoyed by it but you have to remember they don't mean anything. also the "well have you seen THESE art films" response never worked, just prompted more good-natured prodding. the real best way to end it is to make a joke back, "I may not have seen that, but I bet none of you have seen this avant-garde automobile racing farce I caught the other day, it's called Talladega Nights"
 
heh yeah I get this a lot from my siblings and from some groups of friends. I'm sometimes annoyed by it but you have to remember they don't mean anything. also the "well have you seen THESE art films" response never worked, just prompted more good-natured prodding. the real best way to end it is to make a joke back, "I may not have seen that, but I bet none of you have seen this avant-garde automobile racing farce I caught the other day, it's called Talladega Nights"

I like Talladega Nights....
 
One more Buñuel down: Los Olvidados is basically on par with Accatone, creating a sensual world dominated by non-sentiment. Don Carmelo's desperate rage at the world around him is key to understanding this story—he's someone neither to be admired nor denounced, just a greying character forced out of routine. The same goes for Jaibo and Pedro; meanwhile, Buñuel wrecks havoc on the Catholic Church, using Rosa as a proxy for all the trust mislaid in authorities unable to mend the Mexican slums. Hell, the whole movie runs in the face of De Sica's neorealism, exposing said style's melodrama and making fun of first-world voyeurism (the egg hitting the lens calling it all to question). Things can drag every now and then, but there's this subdued build to tragedy that ties every strand of the story together.

A view's due for Tristana.
 
I finally watch Oblivion last night with Tom Cruise. It was a worthwhile watch. I would recommend watching it to people but some parts of that movie just don't make sense to me at all. Good overall plot though.
 
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Been on my French movie binge and I have watched many of the classics, and now I'm in mood for more recent movies. What are some must see films from last three years?

Matthieu Amalric's Tournée. Might have to track down some fan subs for it, though, since I don't think it was ever released in the US. Such a fantastic movie, and one of the most passionate, lively homages to Cassavetes I've managed to come across.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLwN4H2ac5E
 
Matthieu Amalric's Tournée. Might have to track down some fan subs for it, though, since I don't think it was ever released in the US. Such a fantastic movie, and one of the most passionate, lively homages to Cassavetes I've managed to come across.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLwN4H2ac5E

Will check this out.

Eg: My library actually has two copies of it. My country (Australia) seems fantastic when it comes to acquiring contemporary french films.
 
The New World

Director's Cut

I wanted to like it but I found it dreadfully boring on the whole.

Malick's style clashes with the sort and I found the cuts to be awkward and jarring.

It didn't help that Colin Farrell was generally unlikeable between his mumbled, incoherent dialog and lulzy faux rockstar look.
Swap him with Christian Bale and you have an instantly better movie.

Big fan of ATRL and TOL but meh. Not feeling this one.
 
Saw 12 Years a Slave tonight. Sold out. Audience clapped at the end of it. I love how understated McQueen is. Both this and Shame could have so easily wound up overwrought, but he knows just how to play it out. Chiwetel and Fassbender should be up for the roles. Fantastic.

All is Lost A very simple, stripped down movie, but an effective one. Redford has to carry the whole movie, and to his credit pulls it off with almost zero dialogue. It never becomes monotonous, and I never felt the crises were contrived as they felt in Gravity. Definitely worth seeing.
 
Finally got around to seeing The Avengers (2012) after being really hesitant to watch it. I have little to no interest in superhero movies on average so I thought I would be totally lost or find it to be uninteresting. I couldn't be more wrong. This was one of the most fun movies I have seen in years and one I will surely be watching again. Enjoyable dialogue and good cast, amazing shit happening all the time. Not once did I find my mind wandering or feeling overly confused by the plot.

The best part imo was how the action scenes were shot. I was able to follow everything happening without tons of shakiness and awkward editing. It was an absolute joy to watch on a visual level. I feel kinda bad not seeing it in the theater, but even at home it took my breath away. Damn good stuff.
 
Hulu for some, Netflix or the library for others... but Pastoral, I'm not gonna lie, has never seen an official release in English as far as I am aware, yet is available in fully-subtitled form on YT. I do what I gotta do.

Hey, only God can judge - and maybe not even Him. I watched The Lathe of Heaven on Youtube (which wasn't TOO bad, as the video quality doesn't seem to have been terribly high in the first place), and there's been a print of Chimes at Midnight on YT forever that has tempted me, in the past, because the film doesn't seem to be any closer to release.

Only Czech film I've seen is Ashes and Diamonds, which I recall being alright but don't recall a single thing of, for whatever reason. Odd, how memory works.

Speaking of Welles - anybody heard word on The Other Side of the Wind getting completed this century? It seems like it's always "announced" for the next Cannes, only to be delayed yet again.
 
That's quite telling, given that Ashes and Diamonds is Polish.

Well then I haven't seen any Czech film.

What an odd mental misfire.

Edit: I think I learned of it at around the same time I learned of the Czech New Wave and was researching Central/Eastern European film - as I am ethnically Eastern European and was just kind of curious of the films of those regions - and just sort of filed them together, mentally. My mistake. I'm an ass. Ridicule away.

Double Edit: Wait, I have seen Closely Watched Trains. So I take that first line back. I hope this has been as educational for all of you as it has been for me. Good night, and good luck.
 
Well then I haven't seen any Czech film.

What an odd mental misfire.

Edit: I think I learned of it at around the same time I learned of the Czech New Wave and was researching Central/Eastern European film - as I am ethnically Eastern European and was just kind of curious of the films of those regions - and just sort of filed them together, mentally. My mistake. I'm an ass. Ridicule away.

Check out this Barta Short, now you've seen one. ;)

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Check out this Barta Short, now you've seen one. ;)

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I tend to just edit things in as I realize them. I don't like making multiple posts if I can help it. Weird tic.

anyway, looking at this list, it seems like there are maybe 10 or so well-known Czech films on Hulu. Maybe that'll be fun for a new project, as I've needed something to get me back into film watching more regularly.
 
I saw 12 Years a Slave this week. I should first start with a little personal history. I have a Master's in US History, with a focus on the pre and civil war era. I saw this movie was coming out several weeks ago, and I thought I'd get the book to read it ahead of time, thinking I'd surely never read it before. Got the book, started reading, and there was an unsettling familiarity about it. I went back to my scholastic reading lists, (I've kept a list of every book I've ever read since I was 12) and sure enough, I'd read it when I was in college, and had spent the last 30 years actively repressing any clear memory of the story, precisely because of how overwhelmingly sorrowful and disturbing I found it. So, with much trepidation, and having finished the book once again, I saw it.


I've always felt like your imagination when reading was far worse than anything you could actually see on a movie screen, but this week, I was proven wrong. The desperation and hopelessness, the abject misery and suffering, the degradation and humiliation, even though it was just a portrayal, clicked in a way that I really just had not been able to fully comprehend before. I've never understood how anyone could treat anyone else with such disregard, but I never really truly knew what that disregard might have looked like, or understood those implications, until today. This movie is easily the most uncomfortable 2+ hours I've ever spent in a theater.
The resolution was not so much joyous, as it was a feeling of just simple relief.
I've been moved by movies many times, but never moreso than I was today. And that causes a great quandary, because as truly monumental and important as this movie undoubtedly is, I don't know if I could recommend it to a single person, because it is so painful to watch...
 
Just saw About Time to a mostly empty theater. Pity, it was incredible.

I love time travel. The movie delivered, as well as being well-acted, well-composed, and well-directed.

Would give it 9/10. Very poignant, funny and real.
 
Steve McQueen is really good at making uncomfortable movies.

12 Years a Slave was the only one that really hit me on a visceral level, though it's also the only one I saw in theaters.

I'd say Shame is still his best, most complex and singular work, with Hunger and 12 Years a Slave duking it out over second place, having different virtues.
 
I'm already ranking czech films below, so I might as well do something similarly degradingly basic to steve mcqueen's films:
Hunger>Shame=12 Years a Slave

I do need to watch 12 years again though. I've seen the other two multiple times (twice for shame and three times for Hunger, I believe) and it's really solidified my view of each film. I wouldn't mind seeing 12 years in another mindset, seeing if that changes my view of the film.
The whole Czechoslovak film output is kind of awesome, I'm discovering, though being familiar with the work of their stop motion animators I feel like I should've realized this years ago. Although much of it was influenced creatively by the pressures and limits of a controlling Communist collective, you're right that Valerie in particular is never explicitly nor implicitly political, at least in the governmental sense. It's easiest to latch onto its simplistic (as befitting the dreamlike tone) anti-religious - or, shall we say, anti-hypocritical - motifs, but I think the wide-eyed and frank approach to burgeoning sexuality in all of its facets to be the beating heart of the film, and in that it is unique: in spite of many potential discomforts it never falls into easy judgment, awkwardness, or leering. It is fresh and innocent, but also frank and never prudish. A curious balance that I find bewitching in the presence of such visual mastery and such a charming score.
The Czech New Wave is pretty great from what I've seen too, which is four of the six films on this eclipse set. Like I implied in my other post I haven't actually seen Valerie, but I'm interested to see how the intentional apolitical nature changes it-- the Czech films I've seen so far are explicitly political, but they also work on levels of sexuality and simple human relationships that make them relevant and touching even today. the political nature does add something, especially in The Joke and Daisies, where the films seem so radically anti-stalinist that it's a surprise the filmmakers weren't dragged into town squares and executed. Oddly though, just from your description, I think Jires' view on sexuality is a lot less youthful in The Joke despite it being made earlier. The way he treats sex in that film is very much as just a tool of vindictive older men looking for revenge, or of stranded older women looking to find emotions they've lost in the 20 years since revolutionary ecstasy, or of spoiler younger men and women looking for a lay. curious to see how much that changes with Valerie.
Double Edit: Wait, I have seen Closely Watched Trains. So I take that first line back. I hope this has been as educational for all of you as it has been for me. Good night, and good luck.
I actually haven't seen Closely Watched Trains yet, but Menzel's second feature Capricious Summer is well worth checking out. Quite a fun but incisive look at marriage. It certainly has a political level but like I said above, it's not a prerequisite for enjoying the picture. Like you said a lot of these are on Hulu; I expect plenty of those Hulu entires are also ones on the Eclipse set and like I said they're all well worth watching. Favorite so far is probably Daisies, then The Joke, then Capricious Summer, then A Report on the Party and Guests. Haven't watched Pearls of the Deep or Return of the Prodigal Son yet.
 
Saw Oblivion last night.

I really liked it. Soundtrack was pretty cool.
Was totally shocked about
clones
But i really enjoyed it.
 
Raising Arizona

Not my favorite film by the Coen brothers. It's interesting to see how it relates to some of their later films.

Y'know, I've been going through/back through a lot of Coens this year and Raising Arizona remains one of my favorites. It's no NCFOM or Fargo or Barton Fink I guess, but it has Cage being magnetically eccentric and Holly Hunter in a fantastically endearing role (I mean I already love her in anything, but she's something special here). And it has an alchemic balance of Coen dark farce and actual legitimate heart that I love. Where my true favorites from them are taxing to watch, Raising Arizona can be watched over and over (like O Brother or Hudsucker) without much weight on you. and it's much better than O Brother or Hudsucker.
 
Y'know, I've been going through/back through a lot of Coens this year and Raising Arizona remains one of my favorites. It's no NCFOM or Fargo or Barton Fink I guess, but it has Cage being magnetically eccentric and Holly Hunter in a fantastically endearing role (I mean I already love her in anything, but she's something special here). And it has an alchemic balance of Coen dark farce and actual legitimate heart that I love. Where my true favorites from them are taxing to watch, Raising Arizona can be watched over and over (like O Brother or Hudsucker) without much weight on you. and it's much better than O Brother or Hudsucker.
I can see that, it's a pleasant watch.
 
Fun Fact: Blue is the Warmest Colour is actually rated 12+ (with a warning) in France as opposed to the NC-17 rating it got in America. Probably demonstrates the conservative attitude america has towards sex or maybe the french are just way too liberal about such immoral matters!
 
Gravity (just came out in UK) - I don't think I'll be alone in saying this was a very silly movie. I found it disappointing. After having seen both, personally Europa Report did far much more for me especially because of the hard sci-fi aspect. Some of the lines here were really corny like the Indiana Jones reference. The action was unintentionally funny like when
Ryan's escaping from fireballs or Sharif's death like a wind-up toy which is in the trailer or when Ryan hits her head trying to kill the fire
.

My main problem is that Sandra Bullock's character is such an idiot for the first 40min that I just didn't care much for her later on
even when the music is compelling me to
. She's apparently a doctor but
Kowalski has to explain what she needs to do under low oxygen conditions when she's in shock
. As a doctor in NASA, that's at least the one thing you should know about! Her character was just my breaking point of how long I can withstand a dumb character
as a protagonist
, because the plot or memorable moments were not enough to get over that. The
fetal
shot was cute, though. I think the movie should have ended
in space, not on Earth otherwise then put an Earth scene at the start to show more of her problems with daily life and then to tie it neatly with her victory at the end when trying to stand up on the beach
.

I'll give props to the disciplined sound design, great music by Steven Price that I almost confused for Clint Mansell, and really fucking cool cinematography by Lubezki. If you take off your critic hat, you completely forget about the long takes and it all feels seamless rather than showy.

The 3D was pointless, it always just stopped at the screen. Still hold Dredd and How To Train Your Dragon as the best movies for 3D.
 
The whole Czechoslovak film output is kind of awesome, I'm discovering, though being familiar with the work of their stop motion animators I feel like I should've realized this years ago. Although much of it was influenced creatively by the pressures and limits of a controlling Communist collective, you're right that Valerie in particular is never explicitly nor implicitly political, at least in the governmental sense. It's easiest to latch onto its simplistic (as befitting the dreamlike tone) anti-religious - or, shall we say, anti-hypocritical - motifs, but I think the wide-eyed and frank approach to burgeoning sexuality in all of its facets to be the beating heart of the film, and in that it is unique: in spite of many potential discomforts it never falls into easy judgment, awkwardness, or leering. It is fresh and innocent, but also frank and never prudish. A curious balance that I find bewitching in the presence of such visual mastery and such a charming score.
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Although it's not stop-motion have you checked out Karel Zeman? He did an entirely animated film, Krabat: Sorcerer's Apprentice but he also mixed live action and animation in The Fabulous World of Jules Verne and The Fabulous Baron Munchausen. The latter looks especially amazing in color.
 
Zeman's on the list—been staying away from animated films for a bit too long (probably in reaction to watching so many Japanese shorts).

I actually haven't seen Closely Watched Trains yet, but Menzel's second feature Capricious Summer is well worth checking out. Quite a fun but incisive look at marriage. It certainly has a political level but like I said above, it's not a prerequisite for enjoying the picture. Like you said a lot of these are on Hulu; I expect plenty of those Hulu entires are also ones on the Eclipse set and like I said they're all well worth watching. Favorite so far is probably Daisies, then The Joke, then Capricious Summer, then A Report on the Party and Guests. Haven't watched Pearls of the Deep or Return of the Prodigal Son yet.
I've only seen Pearls of the Deep, but that's good enough for now. It's gotten me interested in Schorm, Herz, and Jires for sure, and I'm well aware of how awesome Chytilova, Menzel, and Forman/Passer are (Nemec, too). I just don't like to splurge given how many viewing options I have at the moment.

I liked Emperor Tomato Ketchup.

Saw it in an experimental film class at school.
lol, That's about the best context to view it in. It's closest to the avant-garde theatrical productions Terayama put on in the ATG vicinity, which explains my interest.

I am more terrified than enticed at the prospect of Emperor Tomato Ketchup, mostly for the reasons Kilgore Trout listed. I also don't know that I'd pinpoint Wakamatsu as the center of anything, much less the Art Theatre Guild bunch, but for perhaps the pinku film flood of the 70s.
Wakamatsu's pinku films were among the first of the genre and also the most political; Oshima's definitely the fulcrum of ATG and the student-revolution wing of the J-New Wave, but Wakamatsu's even closer to radical film-makers like Masao Adachi (who, in particular, later traveled to Palestine to aid in revolutionary causes).
 
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