Polygon COD: Ghosts Review update: (XBONE better version)
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Ah, I can't wait! Any idea when it's gonna be out?
Chobel
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Gameinformer review http://www.gameinformer.com/games/c...1/12/call-of-duty-ghosts-review-xbox-one.aspx
I guess there's must be something wrong with me for noticing a difference between 720p and 1080p, or Xbox One upscaler some serious magic shit .
I guess there's must be something wrong with me for noticing a difference between 720p and 1080p, or Xbox One upscaler some serious magic shit .
Interfectum
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Infinity Ward is patching the issues. Probably just bad code, nothing to do with the hardware or Sony 'pushing' anything.
mysteriousmage09
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I predict the verdict will be the game is shit across the board even if you have a Titan powered PC.
Nymphae
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Well stated.
SquiddyCracker
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The big gaming journalists have a vested interest in the gaming public not favouring one console over the other.
This is a massive propaganda-campaign meant to make the Xbone look a bit better, so the czars of gaming can enjoy writing reviews for two popular consoles rather than one - which means more goodybags and "gifts".
The proletariat rises!
Nope, you didn't say that
ineed to explain that post in every thread?.i was pointing at the difference (and i was sad about it) between the first trailer of deep down..and the first video of gameplay....
try to be correct..at least..pls
Air Zombie Meat
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Is it this thread that's bringing gaf to it's knees? Crazy if so.
phosphor112
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Lmao, here we go!
Cool. Well that's good to know. Guessing the frame rate issue was a bug then.
you creating a monster lol
Broder Salsa
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Lets be fair, at these times even a Miley Currys has shaved her head thread would make it go down.,
Based on what we know, I'd say the memory configuration on Xbox One is the real bottleneck, not the GPU speed. Their memory setup is dramatically slower and more difficult to use than what PS4 has on offer. With modern deferred renders, I'm not sure it's possible to cram a full 1080p image into the paltry 32mb of ESRAM (which is still slower than the 8gb of memory in PS4). That's the mistake they made.
The slower GPU makes things worse but I still think it's the memory problem that's forcing developers to go with a lower resolution.
plagiarize
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Which is totally fine. I have no problem with Arthur favoring framerate over resolution and preferring the PS4 version as a result.
I have a problem with shit like this:
That's some ridiculous spin.
Between this and the comparison shots posted earlier, there's something fishy about the PS4's output of Ghosts... whether it's a patch or a setting or something, it almost seems like it isn't rendering in 1080p or that people are screwing up their connection/capture somehow. Let's all wait for some real pixel counting comparisons before we rag on all of these reviewers... I have a feeling everything isn't what it seems
CoD certainly adds optimization problems to the table. Nevertheless, in general the XBO has 36% less GPU power and only half the ROPs. This accounts for a difference that is bigger than the difference in pixels between 900p and 1080p if we assume a somewhat naive but not totally inaccurate linear correlation between resolution and GPU performance. So yes, the hardware definitely is a problem.
Its more about pointing out bullshit that Polygon is trying to pull with their review scores.
phosphor112
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Un-fucking-believable. Another reviewer who needs their eyes checked. It's an epidemic!
ya, this is the confusing part. Mark Reign specifically citing "framerate above all" for the reason XBONE is at 720p, but 1080p on PS4 magically stutters, when they could have just pulled a bone and dropped the res to 900p or something.
seriously not adding up here.
The_Holy_Puck
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Yes.. because nothing good can happen on xbone.
I find these comments hilarious.. ConspiracyGAF.
Nymphae
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As a tweet, maybe I could understand that comment, but to put that in your fucking review is a joke.
th4tguy
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It's funny because IGN just updated their review of Ghosts to include the xbone and they stated the resolution was very obvious.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/05/call-of-duty-ghosts-review
"When comparing the PS4 and Xbox One versions side-by-side, there’s little to no variation in textures and effects, but there is a discernible difference in resolution. While both are displayed at 1080p, the Xbox One version upscales the game from 720p resolution. In contrast, the PS4 version runs natively at 1080p, which makes character models, weapons, and environments look noticeably sharper and more detailed. The difference is especially apparent on larger-sized TVs, where pixel density weighs more heavily in picture quality."
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/05/call-of-duty-ghosts-review
"When comparing the PS4 and Xbox One versions side-by-side, there’s little to no variation in textures and effects, but there is a discernible difference in resolution. While both are displayed at 1080p, the Xbox One version upscales the game from 720p resolution. In contrast, the PS4 version runs natively at 1080p, which makes character models, weapons, and environments look noticeably sharper and more detailed. The difference is especially apparent on larger-sized TVs, where pixel density weighs more heavily in picture quality."
Lol
Always-honest
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Oh wait, that was you.. haha. Now i remember you from other threads too.
GoofsterStud
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Titan has framer rate issues and there are better GPUs currently available than titan.
Amentallica
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This industry, when brought to light, pisses me off more than ever, now.
Only one is noticeable though.
Broder Salsa
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There's a site called rate my poo. Just saying, it's kind of shit these days but it used to be the shit. Like you would upload your poo and people would comment, rate it and maybe share it to facebook, twitter or LinkedIn.
Fuck it I'm going to reset my password for the site and upload COD:GHOSTDAWGS comparisons.
Maybe Sony pushed for 1080p?
what i was asking isnt the power gap..(that we know) what i would ask to him is......the ps4 can do more things at 1080p than the xb1
or just that the xb1 cant reach with this early gen graphics 1080p and this will end then .to be worst and worst
or this could be said also in this way
the ps4 could do more than 1080p...and xb1 1080p....
or the reality is that the ps4 is a 1080 machine and the xb1 not
I'm wondering if there's a bug or setting that is affecting the rendering output on some consoles... this amount of variation in the reports shouldn't really be happening
Amentallica
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What are you saying? That a titan isn't powerful enough to render this game at its fullest potential because there are better GPUs out there?
th4tguy
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I'm wondering what size/ kind of tv they are playing on.
3rdamention
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Interesting. MAN if they get that patch out sooner than later, and stabilize the framerate, this thread will take one of the most epic 180's in NeoGaf history.
plagiarize
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It really helps with days at work like the one I'm having today, where I'm just watching windows updates slowly download and install
It doesn't disappear, but it certainly helps. AA is the first thing I get rid of on most of my PC games to keep it maxed at 1080p60. Switching to PC about 3 years ago was a huge eye opener for me when it came to playing at my 50" Panny plasma's native res. I wish every game targeted at least 900p60.
There is even a huge difference to me between 720 and 900, I've tested them a ton with my pc games ever since this debate began.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Why would last gen versions score the same as next gen? You were not thinking clearly about your post...
edit: fixing grammar taking forever atm
Really wouldn't surprise me.
I stopped clicking on Polygon after their atrocious The Last of Us review. Whether what they have written is true or not, I will wait for other notable sources to confirm before believing.
you only read this review? not the others that say the PS4 version is better? lol
combination of the two IMO....
if you're TRULY pushing the hardware and you release on 1080p on both platforms...the PS4 version is going to be better in all the other categories...
the problem with the Xbone and 1080p is that using fancy deferred rendering techniques with some AA...your framebuffers start to run over (or at least barely fit) the 32mb of esRAM in the Xbone...so you then either have to cut the resolution...or you have to spill over into the slower DDR3 main memory...
easiest thing to do is cut resolution...
This has been discussed to death. In general, every console can output 1080p. Even the 360 and PS3 could. The XBO obviously has some 1080p games. Nevertheless, its memory architecture with the limited pool of high-bandwidth memory for storage of frequently accessed render targets is most probably an unproportionally severe bottleneck. Or in other words: raw power aside, you would not opt for the XBO's architecture if 1080p were to be your highest priority; definitely not. Raw power aside, you would have opted for the PS4's architecture instead.
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