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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. |OT| Tahiti is a Magical Place (to...Hey guys, I found it!)
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dead souls
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Yeah, I'm not digging the redesign at all.
The Thor 2 "tie-in" amounted to precisely nothing, but an ok episode otherwise. The villains were once again nothing, but Peter MacNicol was a welcome guest star.
I think the "what happened to Coulson" plot line needs to reach a conclusion in the mid-season finale, to be honest, it doesn't have enough material to go even to the end of the first season. It seems like they keep reiterating the point that he had a mysterious revival, which we know by now, what we ought to be moving onto by now is hints at the HOW, not just saying the what over and over. We also desperately need an overarching villain or villainous group introduced. The plots feels too repetitive right now (bland bad guys with no explanation have a macguffin related to a Marvel movie, go stop them), so an overarching plot is needed.
I think the "what happened to Coulson" plot line needs to reach a conclusion in the mid-season finale, to be honest, it doesn't have enough material to go even to the end of the first season. It seems like they keep reiterating the point that he had a mysterious revival, which we know by now, what we ought to be moving onto by now is hints at the HOW, not just saying the what over and over. We also desperately need an overarching villain or villainous group introduced. The plots feels too repetitive right now (bland bad guys with no explanation have a macguffin related to a Marvel movie, go stop them), so an overarching plot is needed.
Jorok Goldblade
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Honestly, with a 5000+ year lifespan, it would be pretty difficult to NOT acquire a PhD level of knowledge.
SpectreFire
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Tahiti is getting fucking old Whedon.
There's subtle hinting, and then there's jamming it down our goddamn throats every, single, episode.
The show needs to stop being so wildly inconsistent and stop using all these B-villians and casting terrible actors to play them.
There's subtle hinting, and then there's jamming it down our goddamn throats every, single, episode.
The show needs to stop being so wildly inconsistent and stop using all these B-villians and casting terrible actors to play them.
Jorok Goldblade
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Wait- I thought his brother was the kid at the bottom of the well?
I'm wondering if the tumbr audience loves this show or not. They seem to like everything.
I was laughing at all the raging going on in this episode. It came off pretty silly.
And yes, hopefully we can see the whole "Coulson's Death" plot come together very soon.
I was laughing at all the raging going on in this episode. It came off pretty silly.
And yes, hopefully we can see the whole "Coulson's Death" plot come together very soon.
aHebrewMenagerie
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Nope, that was Ward.
This show is never going to be about superheroes, is it?
The pilot at least had some superpowers and a chance of people with superpowers teaming up, but that is obviously not the show we're getting. And the show we are getting is just, well, it's boring. Really boring, I can barely keep my attention to it.
The pilot at least had some superpowers and a chance of people with superpowers teaming up, but that is obviously not the show we're getting. And the show we are getting is just, well, it's boring. Really boring, I can barely keep my attention to it.
Bobby Roberts
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Essentially, I think this show has settled into its groove. It's just that this groove was pulled off way better by Warehouse 13. I wouldn't have called that Warehouse 13 would be the show SHIELD eventually aimed for, but that's what it is now.
Hopefully it manages to become that good. Warehouse 13 was pretty enjoyable at times.
Essentially, I think this show has settled into its groove. It's just that this groove was pulled off way better by Warehouse 13. I wouldn't have called that Warehouse 13 would be the show SHIELD eventually aimed for, but that's what it is now.
Hopefully it manages to become that good. Warehouse 13 was pretty enjoyable at times.
Jest Chillin
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Ward was at the top of the well. He was the one with the rope who wanted to save the kid at the bottom of the well. This is why Ward feels it's his responsibility to keep everyone else safe. The incident at the well made him feel powerless. Powerless to save someone he was responsible for.
Seems like the most likely scenario is:
Kid in the Well = Ward's younger brother
Kid with the Rope = Ward
Larger kid telling kid with the rope "not yet" = Ward's older brother.
Zod the Bear
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I had the same take as Jest Chillin.
Jest Chillin
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It's Marvel. It's likely they're all brothers.
Edit: Yup. In Episode 3 "The Asset," Ward talks about both of his brothers and how the oldest used to bully the youngest. Ward finally standing up to him was his defining moment.
Source: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/art...nts-of-S-H-I-E-L-D-Review-Episode-3-The-Asset
Kai Dracon
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Problem seems to be this show is structured like Firefly: an ordinary group of misfits against the world. In Firefly this works because the misfits are the most interesting thing to watch. But in here, it feels like all the really interesting stuff is happening off camera and just out of reach of the primary cast.
In the comics - and movies judging by Winter Soldier - SHIELD can be an interesting organization because they're epic. They've got flying fortresses, crazy weapons, and they do team up with super heroes. Or even directly employ them.
I think the show would be working out a lot better if the premise had been Coulson in charge of a mixed group of SHIELD agents and metahumans or adventurers. As a pilot program to see if SHIELD can control this shit after what happened in New York.
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Rick/Daryl
It was nice to see Peter McNicol. I loved him as X!! THE ELIMINATORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Ignis Fatuus
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Uh. Buffy?
Bobby Roberts
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What the fuck is that, Strobogo?
Is that some wrestling shit?
Is that some wrestling shit?
Uru is hard stuff, and the average Asgardian needs to work.
Never heard of it.
Given the casting, I thought the older brother was meant to be Ward, and a reveal that he was a piece of shit when he was young, but apparently not. Which is a shame because that would have been more interesting.
Why would you assume that we'd be getting a show about super powers with Agents of Shield? They do all sorts of things that aren't strictly power based, and their agents aren't traditionally supers to begin with. At most they tend to deal with containment, and we've seen them do that a few times within 8 episodes.
I'm just kind of baffled that you'd misread the intent of the show so completely. It was never, ever, going to be super power adventure hour.
TacticalFox88
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Still don't get the hate for the cast. They've all grown on me.
Ward grew into likable status when he asked for help when he was told to seduce the guard. Shit had me in stiches.
Ward grew into likable status when he asked for help when he was told to seduce the guard. Shit had me in stiches.
If their intention was to create a run-of-the-mill crime drama in a universe filled with superheroes, so they can occassionally reference a superhero with a bad joke, then yeah, I guess they succeeded.
But when you make a Marvel show, in the Marvel universe, I don't see how you can't expect the show to revolve around the fantastical. As mentioned above, S.H.I.E.L.D. comics have always included superheroes and hell, even the live action S.H.I.E.L.D. were the ones that started The Avengers (Iniative). In fact, the very guy that has the starring role in this show played a major part in that.
Instead we're getting a procedural crime show that could just as easily not be in the Marvel Universe at all, and to do that for 8 episodes, one of which is advertised as a "Thor 2 crossover episode," is a major letdown. Wether intended by the showrunners to be a boring show or not, it's boring and it's turning people (in this case me) off.
There are hundreds of minor superheroes they could use for guest spots instead of the major ones in the movies, look at Arrow, they manage just fine.
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I doubt there's anyone that didn't assume that when this thing was announced.
Even much later, when the first trailer hit, everyone assumed "oh, that's Luke Cage, he is probably going to make frequent appearances".
People certainly didn't assume "oh, he is probably a no name superhero that won't make a second appearance because this show is about these agents, not superheroes".
RottenTanuki
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That's the second not-bad episode in a row. Isn't it about time they started a real story arc though?
Jeph Loeb is an idiot and thinks that "serialization" was the problem with Heroes.
Well the masses are uninformed, I get that, but It's pretty logical to assume that we'd only be getting powered themed events every few episodes, they weren't building a mini Avengers here, and all the pre-release stuff said 'this is a show about tons of things, not just powers'.
It feel like it would be pretty unrealistic to expect regular super given the budget they require. It's much easier to do when your central character is just a man with a bow and arrow, in essence because the scope of SHEILD is much larger, they have to do less of the super stuff stuff because the costs of it are compounded with the larger scale that their stories are set up with by the very premise of the show.
We've already gotten 2-3 super episodes in the first 8 episodes, I'd say that's pretty good. They could rope in more incredibly minor characters though, you are right.
They've been dealing with aliens and fantasy level science for most of the show, in fact I can't think of a single episode that wasn't in some way dealing with the 'fantastical'.
But come on guys, a TV show comes with certain expectations, especially when a lot of their budget is already taken up by doing justice to the scope of the premise in the first place.
Who knew that a show titled 'Agents of Shield' would be about Agents of Shield!
That was dumb, then, because the title of the show is Agents of SHIELD.
You should probably assume the show will be about SHIELD agents.
Without a running thread to tie the episodes together, the shows just "there."
Why does the Scooby team on Buffy exist? TO KILL VAMPIRES AND DEFEND THE EARTH.
Why does this team exist? WE HAVE NO IDEA.
To stop threats involving high tech, super powers, and alien technology.
It's not difficult.
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Just saying, no matter how well or bad or at all they clarified what this show is about, "everyone" expected superheroes to make regular appearances. And no no-name ones at that, but existing Marvel superheroes (even if they are D-tier). Dumb or not, logical or not, it is what it is.
He's Fury's favorite.
No, it won't.
That's beside the point since it's what Coulson and his team do as well...?
fallengorn
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Bingo. Coulson was able to assemble his own team, but to what end? It seems Coulson is able to choose what missions to go on (Eye-Spy) so why does he choose the ones that he does? What is his teams main goal? Outside of a handful of episodes, it seems so aimless.
Well damn it, what's the point of it all then? What's the team overarching goal?
I enjoy the show as something to kill time Tuesday night before my nightly chore, and the last three episodes have been good, or better than the start, but I feel like there's ultimately no point to this series. Unless I'm missing something...
There isn't a reason to tune into next week. Everything is standalone. Nothing carries over. They've completely excised the necessary genre convention and it's the reason the show still has that "saturday afternoon '80s/'90s serial" feel to a large degree.
You can absolutely due a procedural, but in this genre, you need some sort of running thread in the background. The X-Files had the conspiracy. Alias had Rambaldi. SHIELD has...nothing.
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