Prominent youtuber KSI censors video from Videogamer.com critquing him

Theecliff

Banned
Oh wow, because of that copyright strike by KSI, Videogamer are not able to monetize their youtube videos for the next 6 months.

Apparently they have also been in negotiations to join a network, which is now on hold because of KSI's copyright strike.
Christ, that's awful. Can they not do something about this? It shouldn't have been taken down for copyright infringement in the first place.

Damn, that was quick.
 

antitrop

Member
Oh wow, because of that copyright strike by KSI, Videogamer are not able to monetize their youtube videos for the next 6 months.

Apparently they have also been in negotiations to join a network, which is now on hold because of KSI's copyright strike.

I'll be doing everything I can to support Matt Lees and VGamer after this.
 

FryHole

Member
Is it really that bad in the UK? To the point where this KSI style behavior is acceptable?

No, it's not considered acceptable in 'polite society' as it were - but that kind of attitude is definitely embedded in a sizable subculture. Basically, if you survey any reasonably busy pub at the weekend there's a good chance there'll be at least one group of 'lads' talking like that, but plenty of others quietly loathing them at the same time.
 
You whiteknights like to paint females as victims and helpless, each had the chance to tell him to piss off and smack him one. One woman did as she clearly felt uncomfortable. Every other one laughed along with him because clearly they realised it was banter.

They're clearly just nervous and trying to laugh it off in order to avoid any kind of confrontation. They've got a microphone and camera pointed in their face.

Sorry mods, but please ban this vile piece of shit.
 
Because you aren't his target audience.

Saying to women "Where are your tits" or "Why aren't you fingering yourself" is not fucking banter. It's completely inappropriate in any situation and bordering on harassment.

It's not being a 'White Knight' pointing out that he's being an unpleasant sexist idiot.
 

culafia

Member
ITT people who think they're above everyone else argue against other people who also think they're above everyone else.

me included, I guess
 
Banter in the UK basically seems to mean being able to take the piss out of someone or something, or just being a downright knobhead without facing any sort of consequence for it.
 

domlolz

Banned
Sorry for the American ignorance, but does "banter" mean something different in the UK than it does in the States?

i guess its kinda like frat culture but 'lad culture', saying anything you want and then justifying it with 'its just banter'. search google for lad culture and banter and you will find lots of articles from the past few years as there has been a big movement to stamp it out from universities where it is becoming more and more common
 
I agree. It's pretty crass but if it was Sasha Baron Cohen doing it no one would bat an eye-lid. The guy slagging him off in the uploaded video is way more annoying and thinks people that are rude to waiters should be killed (WTF?).
If its who I think it is, I can believe that he'd come off more annoying, and now because he thought he could snipe a "youtube" personality and not expect them to use the system to fight them, videogamer can't monetize their OWN video's for 6 months, and ksi loses a huge sponser thanks to vg's efforts. Everybody wins!
 
i guess its kinda like frat culture but 'lad culture', saying anything you want and then justifying it with 'its just banter'. search google for lad culture and banter and you will find lots of articles from the past few years as there has been a big movement to stamp it out from universities where it is becoming more and more common

Oh. In the US we just call that "being a douchebag".
 

scsa

Member
Oh wow, because of that copyright strike by KSI, Videogamer are not able to monetize their youtube videos for the next 6 months.

Apparently they have also been in negotiations to join a network, which is now on hold because of KSI's copyright strike.


Can EA not put a copyright claim on his FIFA videos? That will show KSI how it feels....
 

Croyles

Member
Kassem G, Sasha Baron Cohen. No one cares when these guys do it.

I don't like him either but that's just because I don't find him funny. Others obviously do.

Just so you don't misunderstand me, I'm talking about the Eurogamer thing. The censoring is stupid.
 
Banter in the UK basically seems to mean being able to take the piss out of someone or something, or just being a downright knobhead without facing any sort of consequence for it.

Please don't mistake an idiotic few as representative of the humour or intelligence of all us in the UK. This is not banter nor will you find many on these shores who agree that it is.
 
Sound like Youtube needs some pressure placed on them to sort this out. Tweet youtube.

They don't, actually. YouTube pulls the trigger quickly on taking down copyright claimed videos, sure, but their appeals process is actually pretty good, albeit slow. I don't have any doubt that Matt's original video will be put back up. It just takes time.
 
Please don't mistake an idiotic few as representative of the humour or intelligence of all us in the UK. This is not banter nor will you find many on these shores who agree that it is.

I'm from the UK, and still in sixth form. "Banter" is very prominent there, and from what I've had others tell me about Uni, it is there too. I agree with you that this is not banter, but there are so many in this country that use banter to justify their actions that it is actually sickening.
 

SovanJedi

provides useful feedback
"Banter" means the same thing in the UK as it does in the US. However people use it as an excuse to pass off generally terrible things being said, such as casual racism, sexist commentary and overall being a dickhead.

The people make it shitty banter; KSI just so happens to be one of them who managed to find himself with millions of subscribers and has (well, had) a lot of gigs with big companies doing PR events for them.
 

Rodelero

Member
As a member of the FIFA community, it always perks me up a little bit to see FIFA actually getting anywhere near the top of NeoGAF. As popular a game as it is, it rarely gets much attention here.

This time though it's simply embarrassing. I feel revolted, and frankly I also feel like it was guaranteed to happen. The YouTube celebrities in the FIFA community are a ticking time bomb.
 

gogosox8

Member
Oh wow, because of that copyright strike by KSI, Videogamer are not able to monetize their youtube videos for the next 6 months.

Apparently they have also been in negotiations to join a network, which is now on hold because of KSI's copyright strike.

Wow that is terrible. Will definitely try to support them in any I can from now on. Hopefully they don't stop the video content b/c of this.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Its not meant to be appropriate, hence the title. Awkward people sometimes say awkward inappropriate things. Which is the whole point of the video.

Awkward people don't walk up to another human being and ask why they aren't currently fingering themselves. You need to look up what awkward means.

And the defense that they could have smacked him or left? Are you for real? If it's your job to stand there as PR and interface with the crowd, you don't get to haul off and slap a dude with a camera. You get fired for that kinda thing.
 

wildfire

Banned
how? by pointing out some of the dumb things he does (with video evidence)?
so it's defamation of character to show Rob Ford smoking crack, and say he shouldn't be mayor because of it?


He most likely is a Rob Ford supporter as well :|

lmao at total biscuit aghast at someone elses popularity, the irony. why do people listen to him again? people watch others play fifa? wow!



You can't even read what you quoted? TB was mad at a fellow youotube celebrity for abusing DCMA to censor work. You know, a problem that has been plaguing youtube celebrities because it has been frequently used against them by bigger corporate entities and the occasional selfish ballerina. Oh wait you don't care about freedom of speech or abuse of laws. Grow up.
 

AHA-Lambda

Member
Worst part is Videogamer.com now can't monetise any of their youtube content for the next 6 months because of this copyright strike against them. Shocking stuff all around and once again another example of Youtube's incompetence.

And to top it off KSI just apparently appeared on CBBC -_- (for those of you outside the UK, a BBC network aimed at children and teenagers).
 
Please don't mistake an idiotic few as representative of the humour or intelligence of all us in the UK. This is not banter nor will you find many on these shores who agree that it is.

Are you saying people on the internet shouldn't make sweeping generalizations about the population of an entire nation?
 

Jackpot

Banned
What a scumbag. Can't see how anyone could possibly take issue with Mike Lees; "attitude" in the vid unless having terrible behaviour pointed out to them makes them upset for some reason.
 

gogosox8

Member
"Banter" means the same thing in the UK as it does in the US. However people use it as an excuse to pass off generally terrible things being said, such as casual racism, sexist commentary and overall being a dickhead.

The people make it shitty banter; KSI just so happens to be one of them who managed to find himself with millions of subscribers and has (well, had) a lot of gigs with big companies doing PR events for them.

Thanks for the clarification. Was wondering why someone would say its ok because its just banter.



He can seriously fuck right off.
 

Croyles

Member
Those movies are obviously staged.

Movies? What are you talking about? Kassem G doesn't do movies and Sasha Baron Cohen, before doing his terrible movies was doing exactly what we see here. That and the 11 o'clock show is what made his character Ali G and himself famous.

Does anyone remember Trigger Happy TV? Do you guys consider that to be misogynistic and non-pc too?

Anyway, I agree with people that the censoring was fucking ridiculous.
 
Worst part is Videogamer.com now can't monetise any of their youtube content for the next 6 months because of this copyright strike against them. Shocking stuff all around and once again another example of Youtube's incompetence.

And to top it off KSI just apparently appeared on CBBC -_- (for those of you outside the UK, a BBC network aimed at children and teenagers).
I don't pity them, I don't know what made them think dude wouldn't excecise any and all of his rights, and as far as him appearing on what sounds like the bbc version of the disney channel, he's a raunchy internet personality, not a pedophile, are you all not going to be satisfied until you kill any and all of his sources of income?
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Worst part is Videogamer.com now can't monetise any of their youtube content for the next 6 months because of this copyright strike against them. Shocking stuff all around and once again another example of Youtube's incompetence.

And to top it off KSI just apparently appeared on CBBC -_- (for those of you outside the UK, a BBC network aimed at children and teenagers).
They should totally sue him for 6 months worth of monetization damages.

He can seriously fuck right off.
Anyone who uses "you're just jealous" to deflect criticism is an idiot.
 

KDR_11k

Member
Can't you file a counterclaim against a copyright claim on Youtube or did they not implement that part of the DMCA?
 

AHA-Lambda

Member
I don't pity them, I don't know what made them think dude wouldn't excecise any and all of his rights, and as far as him appearing on what sounds like the bbc version of the disney channel, he's a raunchy internet personality, not a pedophile, are you all not going to be satisfied until you kill any and all of his sources of income?

But he has no rights to do what he did, he just abused YouTube's systems. There was no copyright to claim. There is no way to look at this situation where KSI is the one in the right, regardless of your feelings towards his behaviour. He is stopping people from making a living by covering up his shameful behaviour and he has no leg to stand on. Take a bloody look at the bigger picture.

As for the BBC, that's kind of the point of the original video. It's not appropriate given his behaviour.
 

Axial

Member
Yep, that KSI dude is a real douchebag. I hope he gets blacklisted by most gaming outlets and publishers. Microsoft allready cut him off and I hope EA does the same, removing most of this scumbags YT vids in the process.
Too many butthurt white knights on GAF, this is clearly banter.
I foresee a bright future ahead of you.
 
It would probably get more traction in /r/games, people don't give a shit about stuff like this in /r/gaming, unless it's a knitted sweater with Link on the front, by your cancer-sick girlfriend who also happens to be attractive.

What? You don't have an attractive, cancer-sick girlfriend that can knit? No problem, just Google search "Link Sweater" and make the rest up! Karma points!

Thanks, will keep that in mind if I ever use it again :p
 

Feorax

Member
Can EA censor KSI and have all of his FIFA videos pulled? Say something like they don't feel he is a good representative for their game?

I'd love that. If there's anyone undeserving of their success, it's the likes of KSI.
 

domlolz

Banned
You can't even read what you quoted? TB was mad at a fellow youotube celebrity for abusing DCMA to censor work. You know, a problem that has been plaguing youtube celebrities because it has been frequently used against them by bigger corporate entities and the occasional selfish ballerina. Oh wait you don't care about freedom of speech or abuse of laws. Grow up.

my post was aimed at tb being surprised and having to include a sarcastic remark that people watch others play fifa(urgh football!) on youtube and its quite popular. he is a pompous arsehole. i blame the op for including tb's tweets.
 

Tnetennba

Member
As far as I'm aware KSI hadn't issued a takedown notice for other content, such as the reuploads of the Eurogamer video seen in this thread. Conveniently he decides to start exercising that ability when it's something criticising him, when other videos which are much closer to copyright infringement are left alone. I don't think anyone can mistake this for anything other than an attempt to shut up somebody calling him out on his behaviour.

Oh wow, because of that copyright strike by KSI, Videogamer are not able to monetize their youtube videos for the next 6 months.

Apparently they have also been in negotiations to join a network, which is now on hold because of KSI's copyright strike.

I did wonder whether that strike would hurt them when this all started kicking off. This really is just a mess now.
 
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