Oh, come on. It boggles your mind? Really?
Persona 5 announced for PS3, winter 2014
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Oh, come on. It boggles your mind? Really?
Who's to say that the Persona's in 5 aren't artificial. Chains man.
Edit: And shinji wasn't artificial. Or was he?
Edit: And shinji wasn't artificial. Or was he?
Heard about the news earlier, but are they also doing a PS Vita version?? Getting spoiled playing Persona's on my PSP and PS Vita
Nothing announced, but if VIta is still a thing that's being supported 1-2 years after P5 is released, it's a good bet they'll do a P5 update. P4G did quite well for Atlus IIRC. The main problem is you'll likely have to wait at least a year, if not 2 or 3, to get it.
The idea of Personas as a curse gives me an even greater Persona 2 vibe. While it wasn't an explicit concept, there were undelying elements of it in the P2 dilogy.
I am really liking everything about this game and we only have a teaser. Except for the fact that its so far away still.
charlequin
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There is zero chance of this game not being released in the US.
There is zero chance of this game not being released int the US.
A super-late far-beyond-the-reasonable-point PSP title and one that reportedly had significant bugs (stemming from its up-conversion from PS1) standing in the way of a proper localization.
No.
In the case of Innocent Sin,
it's pretty much the end of the world by the time it's over, with Eternal Punishment serving as a reset to prevent that from happening
Something like
Persona users who are unstable is one potential thing they could explore again, but another problem with Strega was not having long to live as a result of what they went through to acquire their power artificially. Of course, one could always make the drama resulting from that the entire point if they wanted
He was on the same meds.
Friend of mine thinks it might imply a psychological theme. Rather than just literal prisoner. Psychiatric School/Ward for students.
But he only started on the meds after he accidentally killed Ken's mom to control his persona better.
Yep. Totally forgot that. Feel like an idiot for forgetting it.
I blame it on not liking P2 much at all
I think the real question here is are we going back to high school? The obvious answer is 'of course' because it's worked so well with P3 and P4 (sales wise), but it certainly would be interesting to see that shift. The difficult part of a new setting would be getting the social links working in a believable way. Still, would be a great way to shift things even more if they really wanted to go even darker.
I think that's a safe conclusion that we're going back to high school, seeing as those look like school chairs in the preview.
For some reason, I didn't immediately associate those chairs with school. Not sure why. Also didn't notice more than the first row, which makes the connection even more obvious.
Not sure I want to go back to the high school setting, but I'm sure the Persona-team will find a way to make it fun.
Quite. Doesn't seem likely that Shinji acquired the ability to summon his Persona artificially. That said, said meds were apparently what specifically were having a negative effect on his health as well as Strega's (suppressing the Persona, but at the cost of shortening the user's life).
Quite likely. Though I wouldn't mind focus on an adult cast like with P2:EP, it seems like a safer bet that they'll stick with a high school focus.
Should be more worried about PQ not making Europe, it will definitely make it to NA.
Also I'm pretty worried that they might region-lock Persona 5. It's a very unlikely thing but it's happened before with the same company (sort of).
Yes, I my classes were also painted in blinding red with shackles attached to their legs. Teacher was pretty cool too, for a non-human I guess.
Also I'm pretty worried that they might region-lock Persona 5. It's a very unlikely thing but it's happened before with the same company (sort of).
Yes, I my classes were also painted in blinding red with shackles attached to their legs. Teacher was pretty cool too, for a non-human I guess.
Yep, in either case it would be interesting if they used this to explore some of the darker stuff mentioned but not fully explored in the persona-verse. Also, more Lovecraft please.
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And is it just me or has this thread become more spoiler text than non-spoiler text?
So you're basically saying P5 would be Shinji's story expanded to a whole game? I'm cool with that. I think they'd of course need something a bit different than
the kid's rampant personas killing those around them
On the subject of more Lovecraft, now with a dose of P2 EP Portable spoilers...
You may be onto something with Yog-Sothoth and Cthulhu, given their comments.
I could see it having the right story pacing if the main characters are slowly finding out about what's wrong with them. It wouldn't have to be overall dark, but something grim lurking in the background becoming more and more apparent would be nice. Still, this is all conjecture with almost no basis beyond a few juicy unexplored tidbits from previous games.
Edit: Then again, there would be a certain amount of explanation from Igor and the velvet room, wouldn't there?
Ah, very interesting. Good to know.
Psycho_Mantis
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The theme of slavery is pretty interesting. We could get characters that are enslaved by society to follow certain norms, or characters enslaved by technology to the point they can't live without certain gadgets etc. It could definitely get more dark but I'm not sure how far Atlus is willing to go.
I want to hear more, as I'll never get the portable version anyway.
None of us will at this rate. I'm just going off the translated text and TVTropes. :S
Still, I can't help but wonder.
Who say's the velvet room needs to be a part of the story, or at least a part of the early story? We could easily not see Igor until later and have the Fusion/Compendium mechanics replaced by some other system. I think the bigger question with this kind of theme would be how to keep the "enslaved by their persona" theme while still giving the MC the ability to switch their's at will.
college class room I hope (tho Japanese colleges are nothing like US colleges)
I don't understand the high school vs college debate. Even if it was set in college the activities seem like they would be largely the same. Class, clubs, S.Links, and dungeons would still be the primary activities. Is it an age thing? High school settings just fit with the Persona vibe.
I'm not an expert on Japanese culture but I think a lot of the things we see the kids doing in high school wouldn't happen with Japanese college student.
Well, while we're speculating, I'd wonder if it would be possible to replace fusion/compendium mechanics given their relation to social links. As for the 0 power with the enslaved route that would be a difficult fit.
Perhaps jester ala adachi?
Colleges in Japan are far different than the US and really would not be interesting to play in a Persona games. I think the thing I'd really like would be a Persona that deals with adult characters like Catherine did, but that's not something I'd ever expect to see.
College is a very different experience from high school in Japan.
Hours Left
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Yes, it does. Regardless of whether or not the older Persona PSP games were successful, it was literally the last thing they had to do to complete the series and it would of gone a long was to preserve fan confidence, something they've been struggling with lately.
Other companies are still releasing PSP games, they definitely could of bit the bullet and got it a release in English. Do a small print run or a pre-order campaign, or even digital only, anything to get it in the hands of fans.
By "replacing' I didn't really mean getting rid of the general mechanic, just how you get to it. No reason demon fusion and summoning has to be tied to Igor/the Velvet Room. If they wanted to save those plot points for later, they could easily divorce that mechanic from the plot device.
As for your idea of dealing with the theme and persona-switching MC, I honestly think that's far too close to P4. They really need to get farther away from it so they can have a great story that stands on its own. We've done that story twice already with P2 and P4, no need to go with it yet again.
Didn't P2:EP PSP have some programming issues that made it super tough to translate without recoding a significant portion of how text works? I believe I heard that somewhere. I thought it was less of a "PSP is dead issue" and more to do with being too difficult a project to justify the sales it'd get.
Psycho_Mantis
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I hate to break it to you but P1 and P2 have little relevance with P3 and P4. A lot of Persona fans started at P3 and P4.
Coupled with poor PSP sales in the West at the time there was very little chance it was going to happen anyway.
Persona seems to thrive on characters that are all in the same place and are forced to be around each other regularly. It gives the characters reasons to interact and build relationships.
The only adult equivalent I can think of is if it all the characters work at the same company.
It would be interesting to see a competitor to the velvet room. I could see a place like the confessional in catherine being used that way, with the MC having little to no idea who s/he is dealing with. Like a signing a deal with the devil thing.
But I agree the saving point is pretty much done.
Edit: Which reminds me, both 3 and 4 had a contract signed...
This is stated repeatedly and yet people still act like they don't get it. Now that's mind-boggling.
Romars202129
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I don't know about you, but I don't remember taking any classes where we just sat in rows of chairs with no desks.
Now that i'd like to see happen.
Hours Left
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Then why do P1 and IS? It was just one more game that was already mostly translated.
It's a slap in the face to people that have been with the series since the beginning. They could of done it, other companies are still doing it.
Femmeworth
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The hope (implied or otherwise) is that a college setting would help prevent some of the anime BS found in 3 and 4.
Just because Persona has always done relationships a certain way doesn't mean they need to continue doing it like that. I could easily see your character having friendships that existed long before the game started, for instance. Maybe you introduce a character as an old school friend that's coming back to town after a long while? You could also have them meet new people like any adult meets new people. Sometimes, they might meet someone at work. Sometimes, they meet someone while their out socializing with their friends. Heck, you could even introduce a character when the MC is out shopping. There's plenty of ways to introduce new characters and social situations in an adult focused persona without looking for a direct high school analogue.
Maybe instead of Igor, we get a Faustian bargain "sell your soul for power" equivalent that guides you for the first part of the game with Igor replacing him when your characters are "emancipated" later in the plot?
Just 3 and 4?
Femmeworth
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Catherine sets up how they could do social links with adult characters.
Did the first three games have beach/bathhouse hijinks? Honestly, I have only played a little bit of the first game.
I think that's what helped the game grow in Japan lol
I get that, and I liked Catherine, but it relied on Vincent having an established history and relationships with many other characters. The bar patron interactions were interesting, but everything Vincent did was scheduled: Go to work, See girlfriend, go to bar, go to sleep, repeat. It's realistic and fits, but it would be a step back from persona 3 and 4's freedom and the large amounts of free time there and also the option of part-time jobs to earn money and increase social stats. I could see a western college persona in line with 3 and 4, but the only way you could make catherine work in the context of persona is to have more of a 1 & 2 world with limited social links added.
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That would be pretty cool. Of course I doubt we're even close here, but it's interesting to speculate. I'm going to bed though. See ya.
Romars202129
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Man, I just really enjoyed listening to those characters talk to each other.
I can't believe I was disappointed when Catherine was announced, and now I'm wondering if I might prefer a Catherine 2 over a P5.
I really was hoping to get the best of both worlds, Catherine's mature themes and Persona's epic scale.
I'm trudging through P4 right now, and honestly the high school thing is already really stale as hell for me... really hope P5 ditches it.
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