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[Meia]

Then why do P1 and IS? It was just one more game that was already mostly translated.

It's a slap in the face to people that have been with the series since the beginning. They could of done it, other companies are still doing it.

Persona 1 sold just ok. Persona 2 IS sold like a quarter of this.


I mean, you had an Atlus rep that used to post on the forums, said that the reasons why EP wasn't coming over had nothing to do with low sales, said he'd say why in like a month on a blog, then asked for a self ban from GAF before the blog came out, to which there was no mention why the game didn't come out over here.



I can understand as a fan saying "Why can't Atlus just take a hit and give fans what they want?!" The problem with this is it probably was something like this that caused them to go to Index in the first place, and we all see how well THAT worked out, neh?

 

[Dr. Buni]

really hope P5 ditches it.

It will not, just look at the teaser picture. The fact there are no desks in the picture means little.

 

[Squire]

Catherine sets up how they could do social links with adult characters.

Did the first three games have beach/bathhouse hijinks? Honestly, I have only played a little bit of the first game.

P2 is goofy as hell. The art isn't as well done as a whole and as a result the girls don't have that "kawaii" factor that let's them farm out figures forever, but the game is as "anime" as ever.

Pretty eye-opening, playing that game.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Catherine sets up how they could do social links with adult characters.

Did the first three games have beach/bathhouse hijinks? Honestly, I have only played a little bit of the first game.

Persona was never trying to be an adult game and will never be one. Beach and bathhouse hijinks are just fan service moments.

 

[Hours Left]

Persona 1 sold just ok. Persona 2 IS sold like a quarter of this.


I mean, you had an Atlus rep that used to post on the forums, said that the reasons why EP wasn't coming over had nothing to do with low sales, said he'd say why in like a month on a blog, then asked for a self ban from GAF before the blog came out, to which there was no mention why the game didn't come out over here.



I can understand as a fan saying "Why can't Atlus just take a hit and give fans what they want?!" The problem with this is it probably was something like this that caused them to go to Index in the first place, and we all see how well THAT worked out, neh?

But we don't know why they didn't release it, so until they actually give us a concrete answer, I think it's totally fair game to question it.

And if it's due to Index interference, then even more reason to bring it up. They are not known for fan conscious decision making.

 

[Gutss]

As for me, anything that throws Atlus into me is ok, anyway there the creators of the series we just need to go into the flow, and i trusted this developers from the start.

 

[Romars202129]

It will not, just look at the teaser picture.

I'll accept a college as a good compromise.
But like I said up top, I'm taking comfort it that their are no desks, and just chairs.
Maybe it's a theatre, or some sort of presentation they're all being forced to attend...?

 

[Squire]

But we don't know why they didn't release it, so until they actually give us a concrete answer, I think it's totally fair game to question it.

And if it's due to Index interference, then even more reason to bring it up. They are not known for fan conscious decision making.

Here you go:

They didn't bring over Eternal Punishment PSP. :T

A super-late far-beyond-the-reasonable-point PSP title and one that reportedly had significant bugs (stemming from its up-conversion from PS1) standing in the way of a proper localization.

 

[Moonlight]

Did the first three games have beach/bathhouse hijinks? Honestly, I have only played a little bit of the first game.

I can only speak for IS (having beaten it recently), but it's rather cloying at times, and definitely not bereft of any 'hijinks'. It's as much a product of trends in anime at the time of its' release as the Persona games now.

It's not a bad thing at all for me, but it's a far cry from the bastion of ultimate maturity and dignity that some fans like to prop them up as.

 

[Hours Left]

Here you go:

Is there a source for that? Or is it just an assumption?

 

[Squire]

Is there a source for that? Or is it just an assumption?

Your best bet is to ask Charlequin, but doesn't that strike you as a really oddly specific circumstance to just assume?

 

[Nightengale]

I'll accept a college as a good compromise.
But like I said up top, I'm taking comfort it that their are no desks, and just chairs.
Maybe it's a theatre, or some sort of presentation they're all being forced to attend...?

Don't do this to yourself.

The likelihood of it being a high school setting is significantly higher than anything else.

 

[T.O.P]

The only adult equivalent I can think of is if it all the characters work at the same company.

Would totally love something like this, getting tired of the teenager highscool thingy

 

[Meia]

Would totally love something like this, getting tired of the teenager highscool thingy

Every single Persona save for one has featured high school students. That one that didn't didn't have the PSP remake come over here, and still had a character that was a student.


But yes, P5 will totally not have high school student characters.

Spoiler

PS: This series isn't for you.

 

[Sandfox]

Persona seems to thrive on characters that are all in the same place and are forced to be around each other regularly. It gives the characters reasons to interact and build relationships.

The only adult equivalent I can think of is if it all the characters work at the same company.

That brings up the same issue as a japanese college setting but probably worse.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Don't do this to yourself.

The likelihood of it being a high school setting is significantly higher than anything else.

Honestly I feel like you guys are hoping for Atlus to think of it in a Western fashion. I recently put the same question as to why more anime didn't take place in college and I got swiftly told that for the Japanese, High school is the best youngster memory. Unlike the west where college tends to be remembered more fondly than High school, college in Japan is very technical. Go to lecture, come out, maybe a club but not likely. It's not as cherished as high school.

In fact in terms of anime there is only one currently airing one that takes place in college and before that one I genuinely can't remember the last slice of life that took place in college.

But that's besides the point, the discussion here is people are reading TOO much into the image. The theme of the game is probably going to be about escaping something or feeling a prisoner to something. This'll probably be the theme of the Personas (P4's themes were stuff like not accepting an aspect of your true self).

If this took place in jail, social links and the dating sim aspect would be all but gone considering you wouldn't be able to leave the general area. If this took place in juvie they'd have to explain EXTREMELY well why all these kids with different personalities that aren't entirely delinquents are in there.

High school is the safest best for Atlus. Their two previous Persona games, which happen to be their most popular titles, take place in high school. Many slice of life anime takes place in high school. The light hearted tropes such as bath house and beach scene will probably make a return.

Persona's chances of dropping the more light-hearted high school sol anime adventures are extremely slim. Appealing to the few of you who want Persona to get all nitty gritty when Atlus clearly already has a long-running franchise, which persona is a part of, would be dumb in terms of profit. Persona is as popular as it is for a reason. While it being an over-all amazing game is obviously a huge part I'd like to argue that the dating sim/happy go lucky outside world setting is another big reason it does as well as it does.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

400k+ views on the trailer. The hype is real.

 

[T.O.P]

The only adult equivalent I can think of is if it all the characters work at the same company.

Would totally love something like this, getting tired of the teenager highscool thingy

 

[Arthea]

That was one funny event. Atlus is really good at trollin.
What I'm interested most:
1. When P5 will be localized. I hope it's not later 2015 or 2016, because my PS3 might not live that long.
2. When we will get real trailer, showing this game.

about teaser: I don't think that was a prison, I think that's a school, although I can't really say what being a slave means in setting like this. We will see soon enough, let's hope.

 

[RaikuHebi]

In the trailer, you can make the sound of a bottle being opened and drank. I think I could also hear someone lighting a cigarette. People that are chained to their vices and addictions. I didn't think they'd go for the adult angle, but the aesthetics and style shown so far seem similar to Catherine.

Ok just watched the trailer for a 2nd time and nope, didn't hear anything like that.

 

[adamsapple]

1. When P5 will be localized. I hope it's not later 2015 or 2016, because my PS3 might not live that long.

P4 had a turn around time of 5 months IIRC. Lets hope they do the impossible and add english to the JP version

 

[Femmeworth]

I mean, you had an Atlus rep that used to post on the forums, said that the reasons why EP wasn't coming over had nothing to do with low sales, said he'd say why in like a month on a blog, then asked for a self ban from GAF before the blog came out, to which there was no mention why the game didn't come out over here.

Wait, what? Is that what happened to NichM? Damn.

Honestly I feel like you guys are hoping for Atlus to think of it in a Western fashion. I recently put the same question as to why more anime didn't take place in college and I got swiftly told that for the Japanese, High school is the best youngster memory. Unlike the west where college tends to be remembered more fondly than High school, college in Japan is very technical. Go to lecture, come out, maybe a club but not likely. It's not as cherished as high school.

Eh, I have doubts that it really comes down to Japan not liking college life. How often do you see series set at college in the U.S.?

 

[Arthea]

P4 had a turn around time of 5 months IIRC. Lets hope they do the impossible and add english to the JP version

That would be nice, especially if it's not region locked and Euroland isn't left with cold feet and hungry, as Atlus likes us.

 

[t26]

P4 had a turn around time of 5 months IIRC. Lets hope they do the impossible and add english to the JP version

That was back in 2008. It only took 2 months for SMT IV.

 

[Laughing Banana]

I just hope that we don't have another open bath jokes anymore in Persona 5.

I mean in P4G they stuck them twice,

 

[Arthea]

That was back in 2008. It only took 2 months for SMT IV.

tell that again for Europeans. We don't even have a release date yet, as far as I know.

 

[txag2005]

Ok I guess I need to get into the Persona series. It's been on my list for a while.

So what's the recommended list of games to play? Persona 1-4 or should I skip straight to Persona 3 and 4?

I have a PSP so I could get P1 and both parts of 2 on PSP/PS3 I believe. I also could play P3P (I hear it's the better version to play vs P3 FES). I guess I need to get a Vita at some point for P4G.

 

[Jisgsaw]

Persona seems to thrive on characters that are all in the same place and are forced to be around each other regularly. It gives the characters reasons to interact and build relationships.

The only adult equivalent I can think of is if it all the characters work at the same company.

Or just take a group a friends that interact regularly, like in a bar.
Reminds me of another Atlus game actually...

Hell, why not begin the game with them in high-school/college, and make them progress in adult life? Now that I'd like to see.

tell that again for Europeans. We don't even have a release date yet, as far as I know.

Well, at least the PS3 is not region locked, I won't have to import a US PS3.
Unless they make the dumb move of Arena again. (speaking of Arean, I wonder if this time they'll again take 9+ month to bring it here)

 

[FireSol]

tell that again for Europeans. We don't even have a release date yet, as far as I know.

I began to think that we'll never see it

 

[adamsapple]

That was back in 2008. It only took 2 months for SMT IV.

I don't have a 3DS nor SMT IV, but I imagine all that voice acting will take more time.

 

[Arthea]

I began to think that we'll never see it

That does seem likely, unfortunately for us.

 

[Jisgsaw]

That does seem likely, unfortunately for us.

It will come, Nintendo talked several times about it in Nintendo Directs.
Only question is when.

 

[Plasma]

Maybe instead of Igor, we get a Faustian bargain "sell your soul for power" equivalent that guides you for the first part of the game with Igor replacing him when your characters are "emancipated" later in the plot?

I wonder if Igor will return at all, the Japanese voice actor who did his voice died and rather than recast him for Persona 4 Golden and the animes they reused his old dialogue.

 

[cj_iwakura]

I can only speak for IS (having beaten it recently), but it's rather cloying at times, and definitely not bereft of any 'hijinks'. It's as much a product of trends in anime at the time of its' release as the Persona games now.

It's not a bad thing at all for me, but it's a far cry from the bastion of ultimate maturity and dignity that some fans like to prop them up as.

P1 and P2 had nothing on the level of bathhouse hijinks.


And I say this as someone whose favorite RPG ever is Eternal Punishment: I'm not surprised. Innocent Sin sold poorly, and hardly anyone here played it. The OT was a wasteland.

Atlus USA have no programmers, so it just wasn't worth the time or effort.

 

[Mieu]

just like the Tales series, it's always the JP audience first before anyone else. And besides, it's beary-y fun that way!

 

[icecreamsnow]

Hoping that Winter 2014 doesn't start slipping into 2015

 

[Esura]

P1 and P2 had nothing on the level of bathhouse hijinks.

They did have a hot spring dialog segment in 1 that led to some funny innuendos.

 

[buddha0991]

They did have a hot spring dialog segment in 1 that led to some funny innuendos.

the P1 Manga had a bath house chapter didnt it?

 

[Esura]

the P1 Manga had a bath house chapter didnt it?

I'm not sure, never read the manga but I don't doubt it. Like Moonlight said, P1 and P2IS (never played EP) is full of 90s anime hijinks. Was surprised when I finally played them cause I figured it was going to be some dark and gritty stuff but they had quite a bit of funny moments in them.

 

[buddha0991]

People overdo the whole gritty aspect. P1 and P2IS have plenty of light hearted moments, P1 being more fairy taleish in parts, an P2IS having what you see in P3 and P4. P2EP is the more mature and adult oriented one, but even that one has light hearted parts to it.

 

[Goby]

I agree that the office setting would be interesting but does Japan even have offices that work like the setting we are imagining?

 

[sixteen-bit]

Hoping that Winter 2014 doesn't start slipping into 2015

I wonder how far along they are in development

 

[ShockingAlberto]

The high school/college thing continuing is pretty funny, since Persona (especially 3 and 4) always seemed like it was meant to be a less-adult gateway for Shin Megami Tensei.

Don't know why they'd change that now.

 

[Atlas157]

I wonder how far along they are in development

They've probably been at it for a few years now, they're using a new internal engine for the game.

 

[demidar]

If you want gritty you got to the Shin Megami Tensei series. Persona should keep it's light-heartedness and intact human civilization.

 

[buddha0991]

If you want gritty you got to the Shin Megami Tensei series. Persona should keep it's light-heartedness and intact human civilization.

I think when people mean gritty, they mean P1/2/3 style. While those 4 games (cuz 2 is 2 games) have many light hearted moments, they are all darker than Persona 4.

 

[Nestunt]

Hoping that Winter 2014 doesn't start slipping into 2015

that would be hilarious and Sony would love for people (that are low on cash and on the fence) to only start buying PS4s at Q2 2015

 

[ZSeba]

Well, I hope they leave the high school setting too but I know it's unlikely

 

[daveo42]

I just hope they decide to mix it up with dungeons this time around. P4's looked awesome, but I really wanted something other than the 2 designs layouts they used for each and every dungeon.

While combat was solid, it was the dungeons that were the weakest part of the show.

 

[li bur]

I just hope they decide to mix it up with dungeons this time around. P4's looked awesome, but I really wanted something other than the 2 designs layouts they used for each and every dungeon.

While combat was solid, it was the dungeons that were the weakest part of the show.

I really wish they throw away those dungeon and let shadows roam around in the city during dark hour.