Winter 2014 seems like it's just the Japan release window. Who knows when the American version will be ready.
Persona 5 announced for PS3, winter 2014
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Winter 2014 seems like it's just the Japan release window. Who knows when the American version will be ready.
Well, I hope they leave the high school setting too but I know it's unlikely
A college setting would be cool. They'll be able to keep the same structure there is in P3/4 but at the same time the problems the character will have to... bear in their everyday life will be different than the ones a high school student had. With that setting the game could have themes more like Catherine than P3/4, which would be cool.
Fixed.
SMT was released in US like 3 months after Japan. Europeans will have a problem if they repeat the same shitty movement they did with Persona 4 Arena.
Persona 3/4 city wasn't that big, but yeah. I'll kill for some variety. The dungeons were the worst part of the game (though some had really awesome soundtracks, like Heaven or the Hollow Forest).
That's pretty much what it was meant to be, given the series roots as Shin Megami Tensei If...
Hell, the damn game also introduced the Jack Frost spinoff mascots too. HEE-HO-KUN!
Well if you're talking about region lock it don't think it will happen. P4A was region locked because of option to have japanese language in both voices and text. The game came out around the same time in Japan and US and they feared people would in Japan would import the cheaper US version. I doubt P5 will have dual voice option and most certainly US version won't have a japanese text option and I can't see them releasing the game close in both US and Japan. But if you're talking about Zen and all that publisher stuff than well yeah we're going to wait here for a long time unless SEGA or some else steps up but I doubt it.
I don't understand the hype for Persona 5 when I felt the same for Persona 4 for the PS2, bought it when it came out, loved the dialogs, the japanese setting and the story but eventually lost all interest and stopped playing the game because even though the battle system is great, crawling around dungeons is mindnumbingly boring!
I just cannot, for the life of me, accept in this day and age dungeons with lots of levels that all have more or less the same layout, similar art designs and mobs/bosses positioning. Dungeon after dungeon. And you do the exact same things in each of them. Christ almighty, just no.
Persona 5 has a lot to prove to be worth considering a purchase, personally.
I just cannot, for the life of me, accept in this day and age dungeons with lots of levels that all have more or less the same layout, similar art designs and mobs/bosses positioning. Dungeon after dungeon. And you do the exact same things in each of them. Christ almighty, just no.
Persona 5 has a lot to prove to be worth considering a purchase, personally.
It has only been 5 years since Persona 4 came out. people liked Dungeon crawling rpg's back then and they still like them today, hence the positive reception of Persona 4 Golden. Even people who hadn't played a Persona game before liked it
Danny Dudekisser
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Yeah, in Persona 1, I think it was around the time I fought that mouse boss with the clown music in the background that I said "fuck this," and never played that game again.
So I would agree it had lighthearted moments, and that they were the dumbest thing ever.
Wowfunhappy
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Kind of like "We're all trapped in a maze of relationships"?
They could do something similar to TWEWY. In addition, if the city is similar to yakuza series in terms of scale (closest thing to urban japan city to compare), I'd be more than happy.
Highly doubt it though. Hell even catherine gameplay take places in a dungeon like dream world. They would surely pull another dungeon in P5
chicagocubsfan
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Persona 4's dungeons in no way had the same art design. And if you don't like the dungeon crawling, you most likely aren't going like Persona 5.
I'm not sure anyone actually wants 5 to be as light as 4. There were moments in 4 that were dark but they were pretty brief
(Minus the Adachi ending in golden. That shit is messed up.)
LinktoDrink
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So I guess by "winter" they mean the end of 2014? Winter 2014 should be January or February, not November or December. It should be the same time as the 2014 Winter Olympic Games.
RPGCrazied
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Hope we get some sort of media soon. Hell, even if its just an overview on what the game is about and gameplay details.
Well, I just bought FES and 4 again. Guess I'm going to emulate 4 on my PC first.
Well, I just bought FES and 4 again. Guess I'm going to emulate 4 on my PC first.
People love to attribute all the weight in the world to five minutes of a 60 hour experience when trying to discredit these games.
Why are you surprised? It's got a pretty decent fanbase.
Here, yes.
Cyborg
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Im not an huge RPG fan
Nah.
Well, repetitive dungeon crawling is definitely not for me, so I'll probably have to pass up on Persona 5 as well. We'll see when more info starts coming out. Which is a shame really, because the setting, the characters, the dialogues, the story, the writing and the battle system are all pretty good. I just lose all interest when grinding and repetitiveness come into play. To each their own.
graywolf323
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honestly if they can't figure out how to put out Persona 2: EP PSP without losing money then why not let someone else try? NISA and XSEED both manage to put out things that sell less and do just fine
I would have gladly taken a digital only release but instead we got cryptic messaging and were never given a solid reason despite it being dangled
edit: especially when Atlus was able to bring us Gungir and Growlanser and is bringing over something like Conception II
if it's not obvious I have a small grudge against them for once again screwing over fans with how they handle Persona 2
The Persona 2 games had bland dungeons and boring battles; they're mostly saved by the story.
And Persona 3/4 are terrible dungeon crawling; the EO series and Strange Journey are way better since they uniquely designed maze layouts filled with puzzles and traps.
ShockingAlberto
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Every RPG people complain about grinding in is usually a game I've never actually had to grind in, except by choice (to look for a specific item or Persona).
I remember for years everyone complaining about how grindy Dragon Quest games are and when I started playing one, I was shocked by how easily every stumbling block was solved by changing my strategy or thinking around it.
I remember for years everyone complaining about how grindy Dragon Quest games are and when I started playing one, I was shocked by how easily every stumbling block was solved by changing my strategy or thinking around it.
Romars202129
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Some of us just got bored of highschool stories. Try to be more sympathetic, same things going to happen to you.
Grow out of them, that is.
Honestly, I don't think anyone is too serious about the jail scenario talk. Like, it might be cool, but my jaw would drop clean off if thats what it was.
I think the main thing driving the 'adult characters premise', at least speaking for myself, is Catherine. I'm not going to sit here and tell you it's the best game ever made, it's not, and the story kinda falls apart at the end, but, damn if that more mature theme didn't do something for me.
Dealing with adult problems just hits closer to home these days. I took Catherine as a pretext to the series growing up, a test, and since it sold as well as the rest of the persona's, one they'd find encouraging.
I'd say an adult setting is downright plausible. For instance, it could focus on the parents of highschool students. If college students are the lifeless drones you say they are[kinda fits that theme more though, that way], it could focus on tradeschool students, rather than Tokyo University's finest. Office workers, or even just a random assortment of pedestrians. It's not like scenario's are impossible to find.
Add to that even, if we're so focused on what would fit the social link rythm of the older games, this game could have a drastic design change, you don't know. 2008 was a long time ago, and P4 was built on a last gen device. Persona team may have gone in a completely different direction since then.
But hey, if you really want more highschool, more power to you. I'm just saying there's reason to hope for the other. I feel I'd buy Persona 5 no matter what[as long as it didn't get any lighter than P4], but I'd buy the hell out of it if turned out not to be about highschool again.
BTW, With 3 giant games already, is there really that much left to even say on the subject of highschool life from Persona team? P4 even went to the countryside to find some originality, and a lot of it still felt like a retread of 3, at least for me.
Mauricio_Magus
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A lot of Persona fans aren't huge RPG fans, if you have a Vita check out P4G.
Catherine is Catherine(And I love it), Persona is Persona(And I love it), Shin Megami Tensei is where you'd see the series change setting drastically as it's the more undefined part of Atlus's properties. Don't think just because Persona is going to keep being Persona that Atlus won't explore Catherine like elements elsewhere; they will. I want them to, but Catherine and Persona are like water and oil, they won't mix.
Also don't assume that people are in -love- with the high school aspect, I personally am not, but people realize that it fits the gameplay and story elements of 3 and 4 absolutely perfectly and especially considering the MC's are normally blank slates. It's just that people don't get on the fact that it's in high school and look past it.
And while we don't have it stated in text that the setting is high school, it's pretty well implied by rows of worn wooden chairs that you wouldn't really find anywhere but a high school.
Stone Ocean
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Psycho_Mantis
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I love the light hearted moments in Persona. Persona 3's beach scene where your trying to hit on girls was jokes lol.
Romars202129
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That's more than a little dismissive. The same team made both games. Catherine represents years of their lives in developement time. I seriously doubt they consider the game completely offsides, themselves.
And, I'd even suggest, since it was a test to try the waters of 7th gen game design, there may have not have been as much pressure to adhere to certain rules. The stark contrast of setting may have shown their true story telling desires.
Regardless, it proves if nothing else that persona team could get away with an adult setting, if they wanted to do it. That's all I'm saying.
Adult setting is plausible, until proven otherwise.
So if you don't mind, I'll spend the next couple months hoping for that, til they reveal something solid for it.
You can hope, if you want. Just think you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Either way, I'm not dismissing the possibility of more adult settings in Atlus games, just saying that it probably won't be Persona. But, believe what you want man.
drtomoe123
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I still don't get why people say that the other Persona games are so much darker than P4. I think that the idea of high school students having to deal with the brutal murders of close friends/community members is still pretty dark.
Stone Ocean
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They are darker because they don't show as much "happy" moments, but the dark stuff in P4 is pretty much just as dark as the dark stuff in the older games.
I mean, compare it to EP. Serial killer? Check. Mysterious rumour based plot device? Check.
Though a guy with a bloody paperbag on his head is a bit creepier than a TV.
Romars202129
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The choice is just being disappointed now rather than later from my perspective. I'd rather wait for a solid reason.
Come on. Sure murder is a darker concept than tarturus or whatever. But inbetween all that, those guys were just scooby dooing it up. Goofy fun times all the time. Then a little murder, then straight back to the gay jokes. Just having murders at the heart of it doesn't negate that the game is just a whole lot more light hearted on the whole.
Teddie by himself stole 90% of all the darkness from the plot.
Not to mention that only 2 people, and only one of them that people actually cared about very vaguely, died during the whole thing.
Strega murdering people during the dark hour because it was interesting, Kenji dieing, Ken's mom being murdered by Kenji, Chidori repeatedly cutting herself and her death, Mitsuru's father dieing, having to kill a friend one way or the other near the end as the avatar of Nyx, apathy syndrome victims everywhere, etc. etc.
zeopower6
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Nah, it's not that big of a deal.
No, people have been waiting forever for this and probably jizzed when they saw the announcement after raging about the other games' announcements, lol.
Admiral Woofington
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I'm not saying I want High School. I'm saying I don't have my hopes up for another form of school. But school setting is guaranteed. If they magically decide to do college that'd be great. As to an office setting that might be pushing it. Again the dating sim/visual novel aspect is huge, make it any later than college and people in Japan won't be as interested. High school romance is like 90% of slice of life.
Tone.
I hope P5 will take place in a giant prison which is sucked into the Makai. Most of the characters become crazy and some of them start to kill each other, mutate into disgusting creatures, other humans become Metal Fetishists and implement pieces of metal into their body to become stronger.
To escape this hell, the hero will need to beat the arch demons who govern this world.
To escape this hell, the hero will need to beat the arch demons who govern this world.
ShockingAlberto
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Not gonna lie, I liked Persona 4's tone. All the bright yellow and happiness in the midst of a murder mystery and struggling to accept yourself, it provided a nice contrast. I would have liked that game a lot less if it didn't have that stuff.
I think you confused Persona V with Shin Megami Tensei V.
Yeah, I know you were joking, but it fit so perfectly.
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Yeah pretty much. Some people are going to want a darker tone and some people are going to want a P4 like tone. It's just the way these things work.
TheBaronOfNA
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The Frankman
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Not to mention the other characters had huge, glaring flaws or were damaged goods. P4 just seemed way too... bubbly for lack of a better word. I needed the dank. What do I want with charas like that? Ain't no sushine here...
Yeah. Preference I understand, but I don't want them trying to please everyone. Do what you always do and that seems to be working.
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