Yeah...something is clearly wrong when after rob and peach, the last three tiers are almost all melee veterans(+lucas, ike, pokemon trainer, and sonic....)14 of them to be exact.
Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments
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Yeah...something is clearly wrong when after rob and peach, the last three tiers are almost all melee veterans(+lucas, ike, pokemon trainer, and sonic....)14 of them to be exact.
His face is wrong, he is too ugly. The artwork that was already posted looks great, but in-game he looks like Zac Effron in High School Musical. (Also in that shot you posted Link looks like La Toya Jackson)
Pit also looks weird, there is something about his skin, the clothes are fine, but I think the arms and face do not have enough details. Like too plain or something.
A fun lil' roster I whipped up, featuring a careful balance of characters I find plausible.
I was also OCD about symmetry when arranging the layout.
For example:
- The Metroid and Kid Icarus characters are next to one another due to shared heritage. So are Mysterious Murasame Castle and the Zelda series, the other half of Japan's "Famicon Four."
- Six Mario slots, six Zelda slots (with symmetry -- three "realistic," three "toon"), six Pokémon slots.
- The Pokémon characters are arranged on either side of the two Random buttons in the middle, with the mascots at opposite ends (Pikachu and Jigglypuff), the trainers second from either end (see the breakdown of each trainer's team near the bottom -- they're also symmetrical, representing Gen I and Gen VI, with type advantages), and the promoted Pokémon (Lucario and Mewtwo) near the middle. They're lined up as though they're two sides in a Pokémon battle!
- Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Mii are together as "modern Nintendo," while Ice Climbers, R.O.B. and Mr. Game & Watch are together as "vintage Nintendo." In-between are the two captains, C. Falcon and Pikmin & Olimar.
- Two third-party characters at left end of bottom row; two third-party characters at right end of bottom row; Fire Emblem in the middle, with newcomer Chrom & Lucina near fellow newcomers Mega Man and Pac-Man.
- I tried to stagger the newcomers so that if they were at the start of one row, they'd be at the end of the next.
- I don't realistically expect Pokémon Trainer Y with Chespin, Braixen and Greninja. I'm not really expecting Ridley, K. Rool, Bowser Jr. or Toon Ganondorf, either. The other newcomers I find quite possible. But for the purposes of this roster, they're all workable.
I was also OCD about symmetry when arranging the layout.
For example:
- The Metroid and Kid Icarus characters are next to one another due to shared heritage. So are Mysterious Murasame Castle and the Zelda series, the other half of Japan's "Famicon Four."
- Six Mario slots, six Zelda slots (with symmetry -- three "realistic," three "toon"), six Pokémon slots.
- The Pokémon characters are arranged on either side of the two Random buttons in the middle, with the mascots at opposite ends (Pikachu and Jigglypuff), the trainers second from either end (see the breakdown of each trainer's team near the bottom -- they're also symmetrical, representing Gen I and Gen VI, with type advantages), and the promoted Pokémon (Lucario and Mewtwo) near the middle. They're lined up as though they're two sides in a Pokémon battle!
- Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Mii are together as "modern Nintendo," while Ice Climbers, R.O.B. and Mr. Game & Watch are together as "vintage Nintendo." In-between are the two captains, C. Falcon and Pikmin & Olimar.
- Two third-party characters at left end of bottom row; two third-party characters at right end of bottom row; Fire Emblem in the middle, with newcomer Chrom & Lucina near fellow newcomers Mega Man and Pac-Man.
- I tried to stagger the newcomers so that if they were at the start of one row, they'd be at the end of the next.
- I don't realistically expect Pokémon Trainer Y with Chespin, Braixen and Greninja. I'm not really expecting Ridley, K. Rool, Bowser Jr. or Toon Ganondorf, either. The other newcomers I find quite possible. But for the purposes of this roster, they're all workable.
oreomunsta
Banned
I think Pit is actually ok. The pic quoted seems like an exception to the other photos on his page. These pics:
and
show him in better lighting and he looks alright. Maybe he's a little pale, and maybe his hair seems funny comparing it to Link's let's say, but other than that what's wrong with him? I thought in the quoted pic his eyes looked wack, but in these other ones they're alright. Points for the name-dropping though haha =)
<Response to Neiteio> Toon Ganondorf... I want to BELIEVE...
Why not? It's a wishlist after all.
I'm realistically expecting like 12 newcomers, so 49 slots, or 50 with Random.
But this is a "if they really went all-out while still being practical" scenario.
If you're wondering what I realistically expect:
Rosalina & Luma
Toon Zelda / Tetra
Dixie Kong
Palutena
Little Mac
Takamaru
Chrom & Lucina
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Mii
Mega Man
Pac-Man
And I do believe they can bring back all 39 from Brawl, plus Mewtwo and Roy, something they wanted to do with Brawl, judging by leftover files.
Together like Ice Climbers? How will that work out?
Chrom & Lucina wouldn't necessarily be like Ice Climbers, Pikmin & Olimar, or Rosalina & Luma. They'd be something all their own. Some blend of the above, perhaps, blocking for one another, following up each other's strikes.
The idea, of course, is to represent:
- Fire Emblem Awakening, one of the most critically acclaimed and commercially successful installments in the franchise. And the most recent, on the 3DS, with a stage in the 3DS version of Smash.
- The "Pair Up" concept that is new to Awakening.
- The father/daughter dynamic, the ties to Marth, and the time-traveling plot.
Imagine Sakurai unveiling them, standing back-to-back, their falchions parallel to one another. <3
YES!!Something like this?
The only question is whether Sakurai is having any difficulty with Ice Climbers-style characters due to making a roster for both 3DS and WiiU.
I'm optimistic that the Ice Climbers -- and characters like them -- will return. In a way we already have one, in the form of Rosalina & Luma. Maybe even two, depending on how you look at Pikmin & Olimar.
Chrom & Lucina would move together, most likely, so at a glance they might look like taller Ice Climbers. But perhaps this wouldn't be a technical issue.
Together, they'd be so much more interesting than they would be apart.
theprodigy
Member
Lucina should've had variable hair color in Awakening based on her other parent, like everyone else
then people wouldn't be whining about "wow another blue-haired sword wielder" all the time
then people wouldn't be whining about "wow another blue-haired sword wielder" all the time
theprodigy
Member
Black-Wind
Member
I can't wrap my head around how 2 full sized characters can tag-team run around such an already crowded game full of confusion.
IC work because they're bright, colorful things that are small (And if P&M had gotten in I would say the same for them). Rose works because Luma is small and very different to her in appearance. But 2 adult sized blue sowrd-people?
Ehhh, for FE I would just expect them to put in the customizable Avatar character (female and male versions with changeable hair/ faces. ) and make em a Sword + Tome user to actually rep something other than blue headed sword fighters if they really wanted to rep Awakening. Ava unit was a new and cool thing in the games.
Well he was in the bathroom when the new year came. It must've messed up his SSB plans for 2014.
(why did you get into another avatar bet)
what bet?
I don't like his feel. I'm more of a normal Link guy. He is great as long he is on stage, but knock him off and count him out with that excuse for a recovery.
Dimitri LH
Member
Just poppin in to say Happy new Years SmashGAF, things have been fun here ever since my account got accepted, here is to a great year of Sakurai trolling us.
The other parent being their...dad tho that doesn't apply for female Morgan lol. Considering chrom's
Jokes on you, no amount of therapy will get us through this.
Happy 2014 to every one
Yeah, having two detailed models running around as one character seems problematic, especially if say, four people choose them in one match. ICs are simple by comparison.
Its funny in a sad way that if we do get Toon Zelda, we'll have 6 LoZ characters with half of them clones (Toon Link, Toon Zelda, Ganondorf) and the other half being Link, Zelda, and Sheik. Toon Ganondorf would be hilarious because it'd be a clone of a clone. That series just can't win when it comes to Smash. XD
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Now that Zelda has been reworked, I don't see any way that Ganondorf doesn't get reworked.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
People need to consider the possibility that the Phantom is summoning Zelda.
EightBitNate
Member
Only thing that would make sense.
It's really not, but if you want to put your avatar where your mouth is I'm game.
Wouldn't be the first time we missed something important. Just like the time we thought Rosalina was playable when in fact it was the Luma that was playable and she was just for show.
does this mean Pokemon Trainer is gonna fight while his Pokemon are in the background eating popcorn
He could stand to suffer for their amusement.
Nintendo caved into PETA's demands.
I know it's highly unlikely, but I'd love to have Isaac in Smash 4. He's fairly unique compared to the other swordsmen, and his moveset could be a combination of physical sword-based attacks and offensive Psynergy skills.
Pleeeeaaaseee.
This Please!!
At this point I don't care if it's Isaac, Mathew, Felix or someone else I just want a playable Golden Sun character, but I know it's highly unlikely so a stage or at least more than one assist trophy would be fine.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I think issac has a decent chance, I think we just have to make sure sakurai remembers him
theprodigy
Member
hey man blonde Lucy sounds great
would also give me a real reason to make Maribelle her mother
(P.S. Sumia is hardly a brunette)
JStein0222
Member
Are the "for Wii U" and "for 3DS" titles confirmed to be final? Or should we expect something else ya think?
The titles are laughably bad and here to stay.
I have no Idea what color sumia's hair would be considered then lol...and I meant to put pink instead of red twice.
That's what the official site calls them sooo....yup.
That's what the official site calls them sooo....yup.
Not enough letters2numbers.
lol, we should count our blessings it isn't "NEW Super Smash Bros!" I guess.
theprodigy
Member
oh yeah Olivia is an option, I didn't even notice you putting red twice though xD
which is weird because really I just want to get a red-hair Lucina
To keep with the heritage of "Super" with SNES games and "64" with N64 games, I would've rather heard them call the games SSBU and SSB3D rather than having "for [platform]" be the title. It is probably the laziest name for a sequel in gaming.