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[StreetsAhead]

This is just based on what we know of Wii U games in development, but say Smash is the holiday 2014 game. What fills out the release schedule between it and Kart to prevent a drought?

I think of the nebulous "2014" games, Smash looks further along than any of the others and I don't think Nintendo would be stupid enough to let another drought happen if they had no other games to fill in the release schedule.

I'm sure Smash looks furthest along because, apart from maybe Donkey Kong TF, it's the 2014 of which we've seen the most.

Between Kart and Smash, assuming it's the November "out for Black Friday", game, there's Hyrule Warriors (Summer in Japan), X, and Bayonetta 2. I'd not be surprised if one of SMT X FE, Yarn Yoshi didn't make it out. Plus, there's that Art Academy game that's supposed to be coming, along with any potential HD remakes or a retail release for Wii Sports Club HD to pad the line-up. Of course, they could surprise us with a couple of new, unannounced games, too, but we'll see.

 

[Spinluck]

I'd only be cool with Ridley in Smash if Sakurai is mounted on back of him with the crown of a king.

Otherwise, shoo Ridley, shoo.

Only stage hazards for you.

 

[Gartooth]

I'm sure Smash looks furthest along because, apart from maybe Donkey Kong TF, it's the 2014 of which we've seen the most.

Between Kart and Smash, assuming it's the November "out for Black Friday", game, there's Hyrule Warriors (Summer in Japan), X, and Bayonetta 2. I'd not be surprised if one of SMT X FE, Yarn Yoshi didn't make it out. Plus, there's that Art Academy game that's supposed to be coming, along with any potential HD remakes or a retail release for Wii Sports Club HD to pad the line-up. Of course, they could surprise us with a couple of new, unannounced games, too, but we'll see.

I doubt SMT x FE will even make 2014. Yoshi and X could come out sooner than we expect, but I think late 2014 would be a reasonable guess for both of them. I could see Bayonetta 2 and Hyrule Warriors beating Smash and being the summer lineup. Also I guess I should clarify I'm talking about Smash Wii U. The 3DS version could be farther behind judging by how little we've seen of it so far.

 

[SuperSah]

Smash 4 to release simultaneously on Wii U/3DS during June/July 2014.

 

[Timeaisis]

I'd only be cool with Ridley in Smash if Sakurai is mounted on back of him with the crown of a king.

I'm pretty sure that's what we're getting.

 

[SmithnCo]

Smash 4 to release simultaneously on Wii U/3DS during June/July 2014.

WiiU to die a pitiful death

 

[foxuzamaki]

You totally reminded me of one of my favorite silly little things from the era when Brawl hype was critical.

Spoiler

I would watch the fuck out of a Studio BONES Smash anime. Or Trigger.

Fake Edit: Damn, it looks so janky now. :lol
Real Edit: I'd also be down for a Smash series all encompasing art book.

I was part of that brawl hype reaching critical, every anime meme had something about smash and I use to be a huge weaboo

 

[Pociask]

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Tetra, but I expect Toon Sheik. The fact that the Phantom got a Twilight Princess redesign to fit vanilla Zelda's moveset indicates to me that Sakurai will do the same with Sheik.

You're probably right, but it's depressing. As mentioned, Toon Shiek doesn't exist, at all. Tetra was in Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and Wind Waker HD. Also, if they're doing female empowerment, Tetra doesn't hide she's a girl, while Sheik obscures her identity. Tetra takes it a step further and embraces her own personality, refusing to just become a princess in a pretty dress. Also Smash needs a pirate.

 

[SmithnCo]

Yeah, I'd be depressed if they made up a Toon Sheik rather than using Tetra. Tetra already has a fanbase and even if she was a Sheik clone they could easily make it work. Replace the chain with the grappling hook, etc.

It would be kinda interesting to see Sheik in the WW style but ultimately it seems like a poor way to represent the character.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

MK8 in May

Bayo2 in August

SSB4 in November

Am I the only one that thinks the WiiU version will outsell the 3DS one?, even if they launch on the same day.

A lot more people own a 3DS than a Wii U, and releasing them both on the same day would probably lead to most picking up the 3DS version over the Wii U version because of that.

 

[Kandinsky]

WiiU to die a pitiful death

Am I the only one that thinks the WiiU version will outsell the 3DS one?, even if they launch on the same day.

 

[Fiktion]

Gag anime series exist.

How else would you do it? A serious Smash anime sounds awful.

You're probably right, but it's depressing. As mentioned, Toon Shiek doesn't exist, at all. Tetra was in Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and Wind Waker HD. Also, if they're doing female empowerment, Tetra doesn't hide she's a girl, while Sheik obscures her identity. Tetra takes it a step further and embraces her own personality, refusing to just become a princess in a pretty dress. Also Smash needs a pirate.

I don't count Phantom Hourglass because they shit all over her character in that game. I suspect though that Sakurai fundamentally views Sheik as part of Zelda's moveset and that will be why we get Toon Sheik instead of Tetra.

 

[Berordn]

Am I the only one that thinks the WiiU version will outsell the 3DS one?, even if they launch on the same day.

No, but keep your voice down. They don't like that kind of reasoning here.

 

[DaBoss]

I don't see any way that Sakurai will make up a Toon Sheik. It was probably the code name or whatever for Tetra in Brawl.

 

[Ryce]

I don't see any way that Sakurai will make up a Toon Sheik. It was probably the code name or whatever for Tetra in Brawl.

I just don't understand why the only character with a code name would conveniently be Tetra. "Toon Sheik" is pretty specific.

 

[rawktapus]

What if Tetra's her own character who uses piratey equipment from Wind Waker? And then Toon Shiek can just be a shiek clone with weirder hitboxes and such

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

What if Tetra's her own character who uses piratey equipment from Wind Waker? And then Toon Shiek can just be a shiek clone with weirder hitboxes and such

So would Toon Zelda have 3 transformations a la Pokemon Trainer, or are you seriously suggesting having 3 versions of Zelda on the roster while only having 2 Links?

 

[Fiktion]

I don't see any way that Sakurai will make up a Toon Sheik. It was probably the code name or whatever for Tetra in Brawl.

He already "made up" a Twilight Princess Sheik, Sakurai does as he pleases.

My hope for Tetra is that he only went with Toon Sheik to begin with to save on time.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Am I the only one that thinks the WiiU version will outsell the 3DS one?, even if they launch on the same day.

Nope, I agree with you. I'm not sure why people think that the 3DS one will sell better. I think they will both sell fantastic, but if anything the differences in the versions will get most to buy both versions.

I know I will be.

 

[rawktapus]

So would Toon Zelda have 3 transformations a la Pokemon Trainer, or are you seriously suggesting having 3 versions of Zelda on the roster while only having 2 Links?

Well, she is the titular character

 

[-Horizon-]

No body would watch a Smash anime unless they were all chibis or something.

Smash 4 to release simultaneously on Wii U/3DS during June/July 2014.

I thought they said it wouldn't be a simultaneous release?

And I'm still pegging a September release for Wii U. October early November for 3DS.

 

[Shadow Hog]

WiiU to die a pitiful death

Meanwhile, in NeoGAF

 

[BGBW]

Meanwhile, in NeoGAF

Spoiler

So the Wii U escapes unhurt?

 

[DaBoss]

I just don't understand why the only character with a code name would conveniently be Tetra. "Toon Sheik" is pretty specific.

Well it could be to refer to it as Toon Zelda's transformation.

I don't think Sakurai would use Sheik instead of Tetra for a hypothetical Toon Zelda. It just wouldn't make sense at all.

He already "made up" a Twilight Princess Sheik, Sakurai does as he pleases.

My hope for Tetra is that he only went with Toon Sheik to begin with to save on time.

Rumors are that Sheik was going to appear in Twilight Princess and his somewhat vague quote on the Sheik page says that they based the design on a model during the game's (Twilight Princess') development.

 

[Shadow Hog]

Spoiler

So the Wii U escapes unhurt?

Spoiler

Nintendo will, at any rate

 

[Fiktion]

Rumors are that Sheik was going to appear in Twilight Princess and his somewhat vague quote on the Sheik page says that they based the design on a model during the game's (Twilight Princess') development.

Yeah but those plans were discarded, which makes that version of Sheik original to Brawl. We don't know that there wasn't a Toon Sheik in the works at some point either.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I don't think Sakurai would use Sheik instead of Tetra for a hypothetical Toon Zelda. It just wouldn't make sense at all.

I think Sakurai would want to keep some level of parity between two versions of the same character. Changing a move here and there is one thing, but completely replacing what amounts to half a character's moveset is probably a little too extreme in his eyes.

 

[Fiktion]

I think Sakurai would want to keep some level of parity between two versions of the same character. Changing a move here and there is one thing, but completely replacing what amounts to half a character's moveset is probably a little too extreme in his eyes.

Again it's the Phantom which convinces me that this is true. If he wanted to make Toon Zelda a unique character he had the opportunity to do so, but if he's mirroring moves again then I don't see how that doesn't extend to Sheik.

For the record I do hope I'm wrong on this. I love Tetra.

 

[Berordn]

I think Sakurai would want to keep some level of parity between two versions of the same character. Changing a move here and there is one thing, but completely replacing what amounts to half a character's moveset is probably a little too extreme in his eyes.

Tetra probably would keep most of Shiek's moves if she was playable, though.

 

[ash_ag]

Ridley shall not be playable.

I just think he's more stage hazard material.

Will eat crow if wrong.

Yeah, Ridley is too big.

 

[BGBW]

Yeah but those plans were discarded, which makes that version of Sheik original to Brawl. We don't know that there wasn't a Toon Sheik in the works at some point either.

Hyrule Historia has the TP Sheik design and the Brawl model is pretty close to it. It is pretty sage to say it was based off of the cut TP content (TP development hell meant lots of ideas were scrapped).

 

[Fiktion]

Hyrule Historia has the TP Sheik design and the Brawl model is pretty close to it. It is pretty sage to say it was based off of the cut TP content (TP development hell meant lots of ideas were scrapped).

You're not contradicting me at all.

 

[BGBW]

I didn't realise I was meant to. I was just adding to the topic.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Tetra probably would keep most of Shiek's moves if she was playable, though.

Then there is really no point in including Tetra rather than Toon Shiek, is their?

 

[Berordn]

Then there is really no point in including Tetra rather than Toon Shiek, is their?

You mean beside representing a recurring character with some importance to the series?

 

[Fiktion]

You mean beside representing a recurring character with some importance to the series?

Man, I'm telling you for your own good, hope for Tetra but expect Toon Sheik. That way you won't be disappointed.

 

[Berordn]

Man, I'm telling you for your own good, hope for Tetra but expect Toon Sheik. That way you won't be disappointed.

I actually don't expect Toon Zelda at all.

 

[Timeaisis]

I really don't see Toon Zelda at all. But...I guess we can dream.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Toon Ridley, just saying.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I actually don't expect Toon Zelda at all.

Seconded. fake edit: Thirded.

 

[Brainiac 8]

If you want to see Nintendo characters murder each other in horrible ways, you could always look up and watch "There will be brawl."

 

[DaBoss]

I imagine Tetra would use her dagger/sword for smash attacks and normal attacks. Maybe even throw one for a special.

Could have a cannon with a bomb for another special and maybe even have a canon shoot her up for an up special lol.

 

[Fiktion]

I imagine Tetra would use her dagger/sword for smash attacks and normal attacks. Maybe even throw one for a special.

Could have a cannon with a bomb for another special and maybe even have a canon shoot her up for an up special lol.

It's pretty easy to come up with a fitting moveset for her, actually.

I actually don't expect Toon Zelda at all.

Then you will be disappointed!

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Then you will be disappointed!

Take a little bit of your own advice and set your expectations low. The Phantom is just an Assist Trophy, and Zelda will still only have 4 reps (Link, Zelda/Shiek, Toon Link and Capt. Falcon Clone Ganondorf).

 

[Neoxon]

I actually don't expect Toon Zelda at all.

Fourthed

 

[Gartooth]

MK8 in May

Bayo2 in August

SSB4 in November

I agree with the placement of Bayo 2 in August, but not with the other two. Mario Kart was Nintendo's premier Spring release until Donkey Kong's delay to late February. I think this may mean that Nintendo planned for Mario Kart sooner, but it got pushed later. March is typically a big month for releases, so it may be that they planned for it to be released in that month yet it won't make it, so I think it will be in April akin to Mario Kart Wii.

Smash is definitely not Nintendo's big November release provided that Zelda remains on track for this year. Nintendo won't release two big games like Smash and Zelda U next to each other either, and so I think Smash will come out before November as long as Zelda U stays in 2014. There's also the matter of Hyrule Warriors that needs to be released either in late spring or the summer in order to avoid being overshadowed by Zelda U. In other words, Smash is stuck in between Mario Kart and Zelda, and they won't put it in the summer months where smaller titles are being given spotlight (Bayo2, Hyrule Warriors) so that makes me think May at best and September/October at worst.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I agree with the placement of Bayo 2 in August, but not with the other two. Mario Kart was Nintendo's premier Spring release until Donkey Kong's delay to late February. I think this may mean that Nintendo planned for Mario Kart sooner, but it got pushed later. March is typically a big month for releases, so it may be that they planned for it to be released in that month yet it won't make it, so I think it will be in April akin to Mario Kart Wii.

Smash is definitely not Nintendo's big November release provided that Zelda remains on track for this year. Nintendo won't release two big games like Smash and Zelda U next to each other either, and so I think Smash will come out before November as long as Zelda U stays in 2014. There's also the matter of Hyrule Warriors that needs to be released either in late spring or the summer in order to avoid being overshadowed by Zelda U. In other words, Smash is stuck in between Mario Kart and Zelda, and they won't put it in the summer months where smaller titles are being given spotlight (Bayo2, Hyrule Warriors) so that makes me think May at best and September/October at worst.

I could see Mario Kart being released sooner, but you're deluding yourself if you believe that Zelda U isn't going to be a Fall 2015 release at earliest.

 

[Ryce]

Zelda U definitely isn't coming in 2014. The game hasn't even been officially announced yet.

 

[Neoxon]

Zelda U definitely isn't coming in 2014. The game hasn't even been officially announced yet.

It was going to be presented both at E3 2013 & NYCC. We know for certain it was ready for NYCC, but it was held back to let ALBW have the spotlight.

You also have to consider that 3D World, ALBW, & Pokémon X/Y (all fantastic games, by the way) were released months after being officially announced.

 

[Kandinsky]

Toon Link and Toon Zelda should be a team type fighter, liek the Ice Climbers siblings.