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Well let's see...

If you identify as something like oh...I don't know...a nerd, yeah? And then you do something like play a game of football and discover that WOW it's fun, and then someone says "you're totally a jock, NOT a nerd" how would you feel? How would you feel if lots of people started saying it?



That word...I'm at the office and not supposed to laugh like this...

If we go for the typical approach and treat the 'nerd' as someone who, chances are, has no connection to sport. You play a game of football, and either enjoy it or don't. Chances are, you don't. If the nerd enjoys the sport, he'll probably look into playing some more football. Look into other sports.

And now he's a nerd jock. Or a bisexual.

See? I can do this thing too.

These terms merely exist for easier indication on ones preference but for some reason, you think gay, straight or bisexual is a pejorative term. If this so called power over a person by giving a blowjob only exists for him when he gives a blowjob, it pretty much sounds like he's attracted to blowing dicks, where I would call his sexual preference bisexual since he still feels attracted to the female gender. The whole spanking and playing 'the naughty boy' in the act doesn't seem to change that fact.

 

[Monocle]

Well said. We should be frank and admit that the double standard has its root in misogyny. In a patriarchal society, any sex acts associated with women or femininity are thought to 'taint' a man. Being "topped" in anyway, performing oral sex - these are viewed as submissive and therefore femine acts. This line of thinking has been taken to such a bizarre extreme that even cunnilingus was viewed as "gay" in some cultures (remember that episode of the Sopranos?).

On the other hand, in a patriarchal society, a homosexual man can not reclaim his heterosexuality by sleeping with women because he has already feminized himself through sexual submission.

Great point. Masculinity and female virginity are burdened by a common mysoginistic attitude. Just as a woman becomes "soiled" by having sex, a man becomes "gay," i.e. permanently stripped of his male status and therefore feminized, by being a submissive sexual partner, or showing too much emotion, or otherwise stepping outside the cramped little square society assigns him on the map of traditional gender roles.

The attitude you described, that once you've "given up" your masculinity you can never get it back, makes even less sense when you consider how freely society permits people to define themselves otherwise. You can be a plumber and still do car repair, a pacifist who supports state action against war criminals, an atheist who devotes a whole career to the study and appreciation of religious art. There are very few hard lines in human affairs besides the ones we impose with our own categories.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Perfect....lol

 

[StayDead]

This post. Oh my god I'm in stitches.

 

[PapaJustify]

Damn, this thread is going places.

 

[Flying Toaster]

I bought my fiancée a strap-on to use on me and I am as straight as a straight thing.

How is that working out for you two?

Are you her dirty little slut?

 

[Omegasquash]

If we go for the typical approach and treat the 'nerd' as someone who, chances are, has no connection to sport. You play a game of football, and either enjoy it or don't. Chances are, you don't. If the nerd enjoys the sport, he'll probably look into playing some more football. Look into other sports.

And now he's a nerd jock. Or a bisexual.

See? I can do this thing too.

These terms merely exist for easier indication on ones preference but for some reason, you think gay, straight or bisexual is a pejorative term. If this so called power over a person by giving a blowjob only exists for him when he gives a blowjob, it pretty much sounds like he's attracted to blowing dicks, where I would call his sexual preference bisexual since he still feels attracted to the female gender. The whole spanking and playing 'the naughty boy' in the act doesn't seem to change that fact.

Wut?

Let's say this guy, Bob, thinks of himself as a guy that likes nerdy things. If you asked him if he liked football, he'd say "yeah for sure, but what I REALLY like is playing D&D. I think of myself as a nerd." Even if he plays football, likes it and wants to play more, it's not up to US to tell him what he is or isn't. He's just Bob, with all his likes and dislikes.

OP identifies as straight. He is straight, whether or not he likes to give a hummer on occasion. That people are are in here trying to categorize him is what has me commenting...not what they're saying his sexual orientation is. And I haven't seen him in here asking questions about his sexuality at all. So why is it that everyone is so amped up and ready to tell him something when the OP was simply saying that he enjoys giving head?

And at the bolded, fuck right off. That's out of line.

 

[Defuser]

For a moment there I thought OP was channelling Aztec. Did the guy you blow offer you a napkin?

 

[kame-sennin]

Great point. Masculinity and female virginity are burdened by a common mysoginistic attitude. Just as a woman becomes "soiled" by having sex, a man becomes "gay," i.e. permanently stripped of his male status and therefore feminized, by being a submissive sexual partner, or showing too much emotion, or otherwise stepping outside the cramped little square society assigns him on the map of traditional gender roles.

The attitude you described, that once you've "given up" your masculinity you can never get it back, makes even less sense when you consider how freely society permits people to define themselves otherwise. You can be a plumber and still do car repair, a pacifist who supports state action against war criminals, an atheist who devotes a whole career to the study and appreciation of religious art. There are very few hard lines in human affairs besides the ones we impose with our own categories.

Bingo. I hadn't thought of the connection between virginity and masculinity.

On the other end of the spectrum, there's the practice in particularly homophobic societies of shaming gay men by sodimizing them. It makes absolutely no sense that the rapist could be considered straight while his target is gay unless we realize that the definitions of those terms are centered around dominance and submission. We've seen this thought process play out in this thread, in a much more tolerant fashion, when people were debating whether giving or receiving a blow job was "more gay".

Perhaps we need to acknowledge that our definitions of 'gay', 'straight', and 'bi' are outdated.

 

[Demon Ice]

Ain't nothing gay about putting another man's penis in your mouth.

Lmfao

 

[bud]

I bought my fiancée a strap-on to use on me and I am as straight as a straight thing.

 

[Carcetti]

Perhaps we need to acknowledge that our definitions of 'gay', 'straight', and 'bi' are outdated.

Well, even the Kinsey scale with 0-6 scale is already pretty old news, so it would seem so. Btw OP, you should take the Kinsey test and report the numbers

 

[PhoenixDark]

Ain't nothing gay about putting another man's penis in your mouth.

Pretty much sums up the thread for me. You've got to spin pretty far to argue that a guy who doesn't sound too interested in women, gives a man a BJ, and roleplays is "straight." There's nothing wrong with the OP, I don't see anyone disrespecting him. But I just don't think a straight man would suck another man's dick.

Does that mean he's gay? I can't definitely say that. He sounds bisexual I guess. I agree that no one is 100% straight or 100% gay. I'm straight and will readily admit Idris Elba is a good looking dude. But would I give him oral sex? No - I'm straight, it wouldn't cross my mind.

Now...would I cuddle with Elba and discuss The Wire? Probably.

 

[bud]

there's nothing sexual about cuddling with a guy or saying that he's attractive. take my friend marc (oh hi): he's about 6'1", and has a very strong, muscular body. i would love for him to be my cuddle bro.

 

[evilromero]

Well, even the Kinsey scale with 0-6 scale is already pretty old news, so it would seem so. Btw OP, you should take the Kinsey test and report the numbers

I just looked this up. Never took it before but man, the questions aren't ambiguous at all. I mean, I scored a 0. I thought there would be some veiled questions about sexuality that might get deeper in the psychology of the test taker but everything was so overt.

 

[evilromero]

Pretty much sums up the thread for me. You've got to spin pretty far to argue that a guy who doesn't sound too interested in women, gives a man a BJ, and roleplays is "straight." There's nothing wrong with the OP, I don't see anyone disrespecting him. But I just don't think a straight man would suck another man's dick.

Does that mean he's gay? I can't definitely say that. He sounds bisexual I guess. I agree that no one is 100% straight or 100% gay. I'm straight and will readily admit Idris Elba is a good looking dude. But would I give him oral sex? No - I'm straight, it wouldn't cross my mind.

Now...would I cuddle with Elba and discuss The Wire? Probably.

I can recognize a guy as handsome, if only to compare him to myself in the eyes of women (as women tend to do when comparing themselves to each other). I actually thought this thread was from a girl's perspective. You can imagine my disappointment lol.

 

[ConradCervantes]

Lots of posters focusing on the wrong issue. Blue balls are a terrible thing, OP, and you should be ashamed of yourself for not closing the deal.

Way back when I was younger I brought a girl that I had been crushing on to my house in the early afternoon. Made her cum from oral, and we screwed for a decent amount of time. We heard my brother come home from school, and despite my assurances that we wouldn't get into trouble, she made me stop before I could finish. Didn't even give me head despite bragging about her double jointed tongue. I was PISSED.

You don't give a guy blue balls, OP. Just...no.

 

[jorma]

Uhhh the way i see it, wanting to cuddle with idris elba sounds a lot more gay than just appreciating his work so much you'd be willing to give him a quick blowjob.

Personally I'd offer to suck Ibrahimovic's dick for services rendered, if only he had won us the WC - but i wouldn't really want to cuddle with the man. That would be waaay to intimate for me.

 

[Romars202129]

Hey guys, you ever leave your neogaf account logged in on your computer, and leave it unattended while that one asshole you know is hanging around?
Yeah.

 

[kame-sennin]

I'm straight and will readily admit Idris Elba is a good looking dude. But would I give him oral sex? No - I'm straight, it wouldn't cross my mind.

It just did. You're probably imagining what his penis looks like as you read these words.

 

[depths20XX]

For some reason sucking a guys dick seems less gay than making out with them. I dunno why. I guess kissing feels more intimate or something?

Regardless, I don't think sucking a dick one time makes you automatically bi or gay.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Honestly, I'm not really offended by the labels. People can think whatever they want on here because, well, I don't plan on dating anyone here so who cares what people think my sexuality is. Honestly I was sort of hoping people would share how they felt when they gave BJs, like if it made them feel good or if they were coerced into it, but I understand why the thread took the direction it did.

For some reason sucking a guys dick seems less gay than making out with them. I dunno why. I guess kissing feels more intimate or something?

Regardless, I don't think sucking a dick one time makes you automatically bi or gay.

As far as I recall, we actually didn't kiss directly...I'm pretty sure he started kissing me on my neck and stuff when we were playing around at first, but I don't think we did a serious, tongue-locked kiss.

Hey guys, you ever leave your neogaf account logged in on your computer, and leave it unattended while that one asshole you know is hanging around?
Yeah.

Nah, this is authentic. The real Watch Da Birdie. In fact when it happened, I'm pretty sure I even brought it up in the drunk thread.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Why would a female doing anal stuff to a man make you think he wasn't straight?

I never heard of straight mean receiving anal anything up until that point. I always assumed (stereotypically) that wasn't the kind of stuff hetro people do. I have heard about it plenty of times since then though

How in any conceivable way would the husband here not be considered straight? My gf fingered me all the time, was great.

Because stereotypically it it is, walk up to any random person(especially male) and ask them if they think it's straight or not.

Plenty of heterosexual couples do that, I think. Though why would teacher brought that up I have no idea.

Yeah I know that now and the teacher was cool as hell. Was just talking to the people who were studying for the state achievement test about random shit and somehow that got brought up. Funny thing is I'm sure she was 50 something.

I hope that wasn't in elementary or high school.

high school

How do you feel about lesbian hookers?

Good question

Wait...what?

yup

How is giving a girl anal considered gay?

Other way around bro.

 

[Green Biker Dude]

laughing my ass out at this entire thread. pretty sure some of you people live in another reality or something

 

[PhoenixDark]

It just did. You're probably imagining what his penis looks like as you read these words.

I can't tell if this is a serious or troll post.

 

[MNC]

Wut?

Let's say this guy, Bob, thinks of himself as a guy that likes nerdy things. If you asked him if he liked football, he'd say "yeah for sure, but what I REALLY like is playing D&D. I think of myself as a nerd." Even if he plays football, likes it and wants to play more, it's not up to US to tell him what he is or isn't. He's just Bob, with all his likes and dislikes.

OP identifies as straight. He is straight, whether or not he likes to give a hummer on occasion. That people are are in here trying to categorize him is what has me commenting...not what they're saying his sexual orientation is. And I haven't seen him in here asking questions about his sexuality at all. So why is it that everyone is so amped up and ready to tell him something when the OP was simply saying that he enjoys giving head?

And at the bolded, fuck right off. That's out of line.

Fair enough. About the bolded: I worded it badly. The people that are defending OP from being called bisexual make me think they feel the term is an attack of sorts, even though they are merely making it easier for themselves to relate to the situation by putting the logical label on it. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

Frankly, you do make a good point in the way people are observing sexual preference and truth be told, I don´t really have a good counter argument to it, other than the fact I can´t imagine a person would love to suck dick as much as OP without feeling attracted to the male gender and thus being bisexual. People think it´s strange and feel the need to mention that, "no OP, you are indeed bisexual" to make it fit inside their head.

 

[BearPawB]

Fair enough. About the bolded: I worded it badly. The people that are defending OP from being called bisexual make me think they feel the term is an attack of sorts, even though they are merely making it easier for themselves to relate to the situation by putting the logical label on it. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

Frankly, you do make a good point in the way people are observing sexual preference and truth be told, I don´t really have a good counter argument to it, other than the fact I can´t imagine a person would love to suck dick as much as OP without feeling attracted to the male gender and thus being bisexual. People think it´s strange and feel the need to mention that, "no OP, you are indeed bisexual" to make it fit inside their head.

Yeah, I think some people are taking the other side a bit too far. Its not my place to suggest what anyone's orientation is/should be. And no one should really care what I think about it. In the end of the day it isn't a big deal. However, I think getting OP to maybe realize something about himself isn't a terrible thing. If he does like guys, he should feel free too, and not be worried about it because he is "straight". I think most people saying, "dude you are at least bi" are not trying to criticize or talk down to him. But just trying to have him be open to having a realization about himself.

 

[depths20XX]

I can't tell if this is a serious or troll post.

Just admit you've given Idris Elba oral before. We get it man.

 

[Tangeroo]

Honestly, I'm not really offended by the labels. People can think whatever they want on here because, well, I don't plan on dating anyone here so who cares what people think my sexuality is. Honestly I was sort of hoping people would share how they felt when they gave BJs, like if it made them feel good or if they were coerced into it, but I understand why the thread took the direction it did.



As far as I recall, we actually didn't kiss directly...I'm pretty sure he started kissing me on my neck and stuff when we were playing around at first, but I don't think we did a serious, tongue-locked kiss.



Nah, this is authentic. The real Watch Da Birdie. In fact when it happened, I'm pretty sure I even brought it up in the drunk thread.

I'm sorry if you've already answered this question already but do you plan on sucking more dicks in the future? I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be too tough to setup.

Spoiler

Also, the most offensive thing about this thread to me is that you didn't even have the courtesy to finish.

 

[Omegasquash]

Fair enough. About the bolded: I worded it badly. The people that are defending OP from being called bisexual make me think they feel the term is an attack of sorts, even though they are merely making it easier for themselves to relate to the situation by putting the logical label on it. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

Frankly, you do make a good point in the way people are observing sexual preference and truth be told, I don´t really have a good counter argument to it, other than the fact I can´t imagine a person would love to suck dick as much as OP without feeling attracted to the male gender and thus being bisexual. People think it´s strange and feel the need to mention that, "no OP, you are indeed bisexual" to make it fit inside their head.

NP, all's well! Like I say, it's not about the label, it's that people are so quick TO label. But, like you say, I understand that it makes it easier for people to fit it in their head. I just don't think that should be the case...labels separate people into categories, and I ain't down with that.

That said, OP said he ain't even mad. So there's that.

Yeah, I think some people are taking the other side a bit too far. Its not my place to suggest what anyone's orientation is/should be. And no one should really care what I think about it. In the end of the day it isn't a big deal. However, I think getting OP to maybe realize something about himself isn't a terrible thing. If he does like guys, he should feel free too, and not be worried about it because he is "straight". I think most people saying, "dude you are at least bi" are not trying to criticize or talk down to him. But just trying to have him be open to having a realization about himself.

That's true, I don't think anyone is criticizing or talking down. GAF is a welcome place, and everyone posting isn't trying to bag on anyone for their sexuality...they'd be banned if they were. But, if OP is struggling with a decision, or feels at all confused, then I reckoned he would have asked for some input/opinion.

 

[CloudWolf]

In porn, I always see the girls continuing to suck after the guy blows his load. You know, sucking out the last drop and all. The guy seems to be fine about it too. But every time I get a blowjob, I am like 100x more sensitive after finishing and need her to get off me ASAP. Very often, they won't stop because at that point she will know she literally has me by the balls and I'm experiencing the worst tickle ever. Does anybody else get this?

If she didn't stop, I would probably (involuntary of course) kick her in the teeth. Seriously, I have a very strong reaction to that tickly feeling. As in, I immediately spasm.

 

[TRios Zen]

Dang I'm late to this party, what a thread.

I've found that making a woman climax is an empowering feeling; watching them squirm as the feeling grows close, then give in to the waves of an orgasm as it passes through them, knowing that you put them there. Yeah, it's a good feeling.

I would imagine that giving a BJ is similarly empowering. At least I know that receiving one from a talented partner is incredible, and there comes a point where you are just begging them to release you. Of course sex for me has always been 60% Mental/40% Physical so maybe that control over a woman and the release of control when getting a BJ is why I understand that empowerment feeling.

As far as whether or not you are straight, gay, bi-sexual or whatever? I don't think it really matters, just a label, that doesn't define who you are.

 

[KibblesBits]

Nah, I mean it was before..

I was at the bar drinking and having a good time, I remember seeing him there (I think we might've talked once, because we shared the same birthday--he was one year younger than me so this was his first time at the bar I'd seen him--which had just passed) but overall I don't recall making any plans or really doing anything to make him think I was interested.

Went home, got on the computer (I like to sober up a bit before going to bed), and he'd messaged me despite the fact I didn't have him as a Friend, asking if he could come over, I was like, yeah, I guess we could play video-games or something I was thinking, and then he pretty much was at my door as soon as I said yes. Like I remember thinking wow, that's fast, my campus was pretty small and all, but still.

I invited him in, and he started complimenting me and then next thing I know I was giving a BJ. To be fair I'm pretty sure I joked about the BJ and he took me up on it, so it was consensual I guess, but I wasn't all there as I'd drunk a lot so you be the judge. I also remember him spanking me because once more I was joking around like we were in a porno playing the girl and all, and I was like "spank me like a bad girl". But I sort of backed out when I realized that he'd possibly...shoot off in my bed and I didn't want to have to clean my comforter since the laundry room in my dorm sucked. So I asked him to leave.

I can't.
I don't even.

Help, my sides hurt from laughing.

 

[Andrew.]

I've never given nor received, so I... I don't think I can answer the question.

Um, next time I attempt to talk to a girl, I'll ask.

Just straight up ask, dont lock eyes with her for ten minutes beforehand.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

In porn, I always see the girls continuing to suck after the guy blows his load. You know, sucking out the last drop and all. The guy seems to be fine about it too. But every time I get a blowjob, I am like 100x more sensitive after finishing and need her to get off me ASAP. Very often, they won't stop because at that point she will know she literally has me by the balls and I'm experiencing the worst tickle ever. Does anybody else get this?

Oh man it's an awful feeling when you get super sensitive. I literally almost had the piss tickled out of me.

 

[phosphor112]

Nothing on gaf surprises me anymore.

"Dastardly anal smell" and this thread are really great examples of this.
Lmao.

 

[freenudemacusers]

Does that mean he's gay? I can't definitely say that. He sounds bisexual I guess. I agree that no one is 100% straight or 100% gay. I'm straight and will readily admit Idris Elba is a good looking dude. But would I give him oral sex? No - I'm straight, it wouldn't cross my mind.

He's no brian pumper

 

[Robot Pants]

oh my god how good is this?

 

[PhoenixDark]

He's no brian pumper

Anyone who likes Brian Pumper has shit porn taste.

 

[Funky Papa]

Man, GAF is having a strong 2014 start.

 

[SeriousApes]

.

 

[freenudemacusers]

Anyone who likes Brian Pumper has shit porn taste.

I just mean looks-wise. of course we all know shane diesel is the goat

 

[bud]

i don't understand why women let shane diesel fuck them in their ass.

 

[RockTurtle]

why hasn't op answered my question?

 

[Incitemaybe]

I think I fit in really well with this thread. I'm a gay guy who doesn't like to give or receive blowjobs. I find it tedious and very boring.

By some of the logic in this thread, I'm now straight.

 

[freenudemacusers]

I think I fit in really well with this thread. I'm a gay guy who doesn't like to give or receive blowjobs. I find it tedious and very boring.

By some of the logic in this thread, I'm now straight.

If you need any advice on being straight just ask.

 

[TheHollowNight]

Dang I'm late to this party, what a thread.

I've found that making a woman climax is an empowering feeling; watching them squirm as the feeling grows close, then give in to the waves of an orgasm as it passes through them, knowing that you put them there. Yeah, it's a good feeling.

I would imagine that giving a BJ is similarly empowering. At least I know that receiving one from a talented partner is incredible, and there comes a point where you are just begging them to release you. Of course sex for me has always been 60% Mental/40% Physical so maybe that control over a woman and the release of control when getting a BJ is why I understand that empowerment feeling.

As far as whether or not you are straight, gay, bi-sexual or whatever? I don't think it really matters, just a label, that doesn't define who you are.

Pretty much this. It's just as great to give as it is to receive. Don't be selfish now!

 

[Soulscribe]

Lol @ at some of you guys assigning titles to him like some kind of orientation police.

I'm a gay guy that likes boobs. Would you all insist that I'm bisexual if I'm really only attracted to boobs, despite my years upon years upon years of banging men, blowing men, making out with men, dating men, etc.

I've also had sex with women and enjoyed it quite a bit, but do I consider myself bisexual by any stretch of the imagination? Hell no. Having random people tell me what I am makes me chuckle because it's not as simple as black, white, or bi.

Cheers to you, OP! Feel free to drop by my place sometime. Lol

 

[SenjutsuSage]

That post was a mouthful.

*snickering like a kid in the 1st grade because the teacher said penis or vagina out loud.*

On a more serious note, this is something I just could never imagine myself doing to a woman, and I would also never have a woman I respect and truly care about do this for me. May sound silly, but it's just a line I don't cross. In fact, I've gone out of my way on a few occasions to avoid having girls give me blowjobs, because I think a woman deserves more respect than that.

 

[Cow Mengde]

Lol @ at some of you guys assigning titles to him like some kind of orientation police.

I'm a gay guy that likes boobs.

But men have boobs too.