True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st

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The polarity and difference between the protagonists is really neat. Rust is an alcoholic and probably abuses narcotics, he started using narcotics because of his involvement with the narcotics division in Texas, he self medicates. Rust shows his emotions openly, he has no fear when it comes to interacting with the world around him. You can't tell what his motives are though, what makes him tick, why he views the world in a certain light.

Martin is the opposite. He takes prescription drugs for some reason, he's traditionally medicated. Martin hides his emotions while his motives are easily displayed. He takes offense with Rust challenging or questioning traditional values, he'd rather have something his way or not have it at all.

I hope it doesn't end up that
the show is making it look like Rust is a killer but in the end he was really covering for Hart.

You don't need to spoiler tag discussion or predictions, I believe you only need to spoiler tag discussions based on promo spoilers and leaked stuff. I don't think what you're describing is going to happen. I'm guessing since the murders keep happening, even when the case was apparently solved, that the murders are being committed by a group instead of a individual. Due to Rust or Martin being tied to the group or someone in the group though, they only arrest one person instead of going after the group as a whole.
 
The long car conversation is the kind of thing that sets TV and film apart. With a film you could replicate it in its entirety, but that's the one chance to do so. You have to make that the characters defining moment. The one scene for complete introspection to breath. So many other parts of who they are and what they're all about have to be rushed through, just so we get a pretty bow on their arc at the end of a two hour run time. On a TV show like this, you can have that moment occur and put a new spin on it, not even less than 20 minutes later. And that wont be the last time to expand on it. You've got many more opportunities with 9 episodes to go. There's a short bit when they're in the dilapidated mall outside the coroners office that just adds so much to *Matthew's character. The line is, "I don't sleep, I just dream." To me that adds another dimension to the time we had previously spent peering into the his mind. It wont be last time for revelations either and i cant wait to see what else we discover about both detectives. Great work by *Woody too who has to wonder what the hell he did to deserve a partner like this.

I'm sticking with this character study and want to see how these flash forwards play into the story now that we see that the case isn't as closed as either detective thinks it was.

*I'll get their character names soon enough.
 
Brilliant first episode.

The notion of Rust being the killer is a stretch. His nature is more about his character and the contrast between Woody's don't ask questions mindset.
 
Man what a start, so stoked for this series. I have always loved hard detective movies. This looks absolutely fantastic.

Also,
was it supposed to seem like Hart is having an affair with that legal aid woman?
 
Just finished watching and I was really impressed. I hadn't read any reviews or impressions and didn't really know much about what the show was about before watching.
 
Man what a start, so stoked for this series. I have always loved hard detective movies. This looks absolutely fantastic.

Also,
was it supposed to seem like Hart is having an affair with that legal aid woman?

Well episode is where everyone says we get to see the gOOds, so maybe so. I'm waiting for a proper HD presentation. Less a week to go now.
 
Cool show. Definitely in for another episode.

Reminds me of the Bridge... Hannibal... Same feel, but different pacing and style, but like the other two, it has a very thick skin to it. There's a calculation running through it all that really brings it together.
 
Also,
was it supposed to seem like Hart is having an affair with that legal aid woman?

Saw the episode a 2nd time just now and noticed Woody didn't have a wedding ring on at all. But yeah it seemed overly obvious he had something going on with that girl

Love how it started. No idea where it's headed but I'd love if by episode 5-6 they were forced to work together again to catch the killer and that's where we'll find out
it's one of them.
That'd work for me.
 
Watched it twice and loved it both times. I lost it when MM slapped that dude. Will definitely tune in for the remainder of the series. Good month of debuts with this and Black Sail in a couple of weeks
 
The tone and the writing worked nicely together, and having it framed the way it is makes it more than just another cop show/The Killing. But otherwise, I'm waiting for this to hopefully open up somehow.
 
I really enjoyed it and I can't wait for the next episode.

From what we saw tonight I get the feeling that when they originally "solved" the case Rust didn't agree with the outcome, but was probably overruled due to some outside pressure. That outcome is what caused Rust to appear how he does in the future scenes, and why he would still be following news for a similar incidence. This could also explain the falling out between the two of them also. Well, that is my crazy speculation anyways.
 
From what we saw tonight I get the feeling that when they originally "solved" the case Rust didn't agree with the outcome, but was probably overruled due to some outside pressure. That outcome is what caused Rust to appear how he does in the future scenes, and why he would still be following news for a similar incidence. This could also explain the falling out between the two of them also. Well, that is my crazy speculation anyways.

Not so crazy, that was my first thought as well....
 
Wonderful opening.

Also, manliest slap ever:

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So good.
 
I really enjoyed it and I can't wait for the next episode.

From what we saw tonight I get the feeling that when they originally "solved" the case Rust didn't agree with the outcome, but was probably overruled due to some outside pressure. That outcome is what caused Rust to appear how he does in the future scenes, and why he would still be following news for a similar incidence. This could also explain the falling out between the two of them also. Well, that is my crazy speculation anyways.

yep, that is what I thought from watching it.

They "solve" the case to keep the governor happy. Woody tows the line to wrap the case up and Rust doesn't like the outcome.

I really, really liked it. The only other first episode of a drama show I have liked as much is The Wire (which I prefer over Breaking Bad).

Can't wait for it to really amp up. I loved the last scene of the show when
Rust looks at the cops, gets all animated and says "you want to know how this has happened when we locked up the guy in 95, then why the fuck dont you start asking the right questions!?!" or something like that. Its like he has known for a while why they are interviewing him and he is just getting started.
Left me wanting more, that is for sure, and great way to finish the show.
 
Can't wait for it to really amp up. I loved the last scene of the show when
Rust looks at the cops, gets all animated and says "you want to know how this has happened when we locked up the guy in 95, then why the fuck dont you start asking the right questions!?!" or something like that. Its like he has known for a while why they are interviewing him and he is just getting started.
Left me wanting more, that is for sure, and great way to finish the show.
Yeah when the music kicked up during that scene it was awesome. It had a "shit just got real" feeling to it, which only makes the wait till next week harder.
 
Don't know how I feel about series being an anthology with new characters every season. Kinda want many seasons with these 2 characters as leads.
 
Pretty fantastic opener. The atmosphere is incredible and Mcconaughey absolutely kills it. Loved every second, the wait between weeks will be unbearable if the quality of this episodes persists throughout the rest of the series.
 
The Hype is real! Just got done watching the first episode......fucking awesome. My man Mcconnaughy is on some kind of roll.
 
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Shea Whigam is supposed to be in this - for some reason I don't remember him in the first episode

Pretty sure he wasn't in it. I saw him in the trailers so I'm guessing he shows up when the investigation ramps up a little more and they start investigating churches in the area.
 
Saw the episode a 2nd time just now and noticed Woody didn't have a wedding ring on at all. But yeah it seemed overly obvious he had something going on with that girl

Love how it started. No idea where it's headed but I'd love if by episode 5-6 they were forced to work together again to catch the killer and that's where we'll find out
it's one of them.
That'd work for me.

yeah, he working it.

Think that's Alexandra Daddario, too. :D
 
I love how this show looks. The locations are gorgeous, and I really enjoy the wide angle establishing shots.

Some of the dialog between Woddy and Matthew feels like stage acting. Not all televised dialog needs to be naturalistic, but some of their conversations feel like they should be in a play rather than television.

Spoilers: The killer is obviously the sheriff, and his accomplices are the cross dressing deputy and the traveling gardener.
 
The Hype is real! Just got done watching the first episode......fucking awesome. My man Mcconnaughy is on some kind of roll.
I fucking called it last year and even made a thread about MM breaking out. The guy will start winning all sorts of shit in the next few years. He has reinvented himself.

Also, woody harrelson deserves much love too. I always loved the crazy bastard. To see him play a normal guy for once is revealing to me lol.
 
Also, woody harrelson deserves much love too. I always loved the crazy bastard. To see him play a normal guy for once is revealing to me lol.

Same here. I agree that MM is the really, really extraordinary performance here, but I hope WH gets acknowledged as well.
 
If the quality doesn't drop I'll probably see this out. I only found the first episode merely okay.

I get the same feeling with this as I did with the The Bridge. Unfortunately there isn't an original show to watch instead.
 
Tuned in to see ep1 last night, start off a bit rough, seemed to me that they were trying too hard with Rust, especially the melancholy rant which seemed a bit forced to me. The show came into it's own as time went on though and I really loved the cinematography.
I'm excited to see the rest of the series.
 
I like how, if you bullet point this show's premise, it seems like the most cliched shit ever.
The execution however more than makes up for it.
 
If the quality doesn't drop I'll probably see this out. I only found the first episode merely okay.

I get the same feeling with this as I did with the The Bridge. Unfortunately there isn't an original show to watch instead.

I only watched 3 episodes of The Bridge, but the writing and direction felt much worse than this, to be honest.
 
If the quality doesn't drop I'll probably see this out. I only found the first episode merely okay.

I get the same feeling with this as I did with the The Bridge. Unfortunately there isn't an original show to watch instead.

The characters in The Bridge were not as interesting as either Rust or Marty. And that show could've done so much more with Sonya's character. Thats the difference between True Detective and shows like The Killing/The Bridge/etc/etc. The two main characters are already 10 times more interesting than the characters from those other shows.
 
Anyone else detect a hint of classic Lovecraft in the character of Rust? He doesn't sleep; he dreams (Cthulhu); he sustains his fragile sanity by consuming alcohol and narcotics similar to many of Lovecraft's protagonists (e.g., Dagon); he possesses a morbid, cynical perspective of life - almost like a post traumatic stress syndrome - like many of Lovecraft's characters after witnessing a horrific event. He is questioned, mocked by peers who don't see the same things he sees, again like some of Lovecraft's characters.
 
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