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1990's Cartoon Survivor (Do-Over)
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Sectorseven
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Kill: Reboot
Kill: Reboot
Save: Tiny Toons
I watched a little Reboot as a kid if nothing else was on, and I just don't remember it being on the same level as shows like Batman. Nor was it as silly as Animaniacs. Every aspect of it from the animation to the subject matter fell in this weird grey area that just didn't work for me.
Tiny Toons feels like it's in more danger than Animaniacs, but it shares a lot of the same qualities and I enjoyed it.
Kill: Reboot
Save: Tiny Toons
I watched a little Reboot as a kid if nothing else was on, and I just don't remember it being on the same level as shows like Batman. Nor was it as silly as Animaniacs. Every aspect of it from the animation to the subject matter fell in this weird grey area that just didn't work for me.
Tiny Toons feels like it's in more danger than Animaniacs, but it shares a lot of the same qualities and I enjoyed it.
Rrongfield
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Kill: Rocko's Modern Life.
Kill: Courage
Maybe it was the spanish translation, but I despised both shows.
Save: Hey Arnold.
Still love it.
Kill: Courage
Maybe it was the spanish translation, but I despised both shows.
Save: Hey Arnold.
Still love it.
Conflict NZ
Member
Kill: Rocko
Kill: Rocko
This show was pretty good but it was a but too crazy for my liking, I remember being freaked out by some of the stuff as a kid.
Save: Rugrats
Kill: Rocko
This show was pretty good but it was a but too crazy for my liking, I remember being freaked out by some of the stuff as a kid.
Save: Rugrats
TheAbsolution
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Hey guys,
It would nice if you didnt reveal the winners of each round before I do.
I mean you can suggest that certain shows need more saves/kills but try to refrain from reveal exact winners and losers.
It would nice if you didnt reveal the winners of each round before I do.
I mean you can suggest that certain shows need more saves/kills but try to refrain from reveal exact winners and losers.
Yeah this thread is really addictive. Check every time it's active during the day. Subbed to it too.
This... this thing is rigged...
TheAbsolution
Member
Heh. It's almost garuanteed for top 12 or top 10 at this point and all it has to do is get 2nd place or lower this round. We're almost at top 15.
Top 14 is next round. We're so close now.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
kill: hey arnold
kill: hey arnold
save: reboot
im sure hey arnold is decent just never got around to watch any of it where as ive watched and liked everything else on that list
kill: hey arnold
save: reboot
im sure hey arnold is decent just never got around to watch any of it where as ive watched and liked everything else on that list
It's not guaranteed at all. If just the people voting to save Hey Arnold and kill DBZ would switch their kills to Reboot, it'd be dead by a hefty majority. Arnold would still be safe, because Arnold has a bunch of saves and not that many kills. By not going for Reboot's throat, you're leaving Arnold vulnerable to, well, the post above mine.
It's as if Rygar read my mind
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
You guys are trying to kill DBZ, Arnold, and Courage over Darkwing Duck? Madness.
Doctor Decimate
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i'm also wondering how many people actually watched the show lately. this is getting ridiculous.
A Human Becoming
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Early voters try to kill Reboot, later voters try to save it. How about we end voting at 1AM? 
Unless Reboot somehow miraculously survives another round I'm gunning for Superman. Why? The only episode I remember is when he raced around the world with The Flash. More importantly, Superman is a terrible superhero. He's broken and has an awful alter ego.
Unless Reboot somehow miraculously survives another round I'm gunning for Superman. Why? The only episode I remember is when he raced around the world with The Flash. More importantly, Superman is a terrible superhero. He's broken and has an awful alter ego.
Arnold's still half the votes or so of Reboot (counting kills and saves). It was less vulnerable before Rygar posted (which happened right as I posted) but the logic stands. If it comes down to the wire and multiple shows are close, anything could happen, and that could mean Hey Arnold going down in flames.
Which Reboot people would gladly see happen, apparently.
Because Reboot is sucking up a ton of Kills and Saves that would otherwise be used on everything else. It's this threads cancer.
I've been watching it over the past couple of weeks, and have been defending it the whole way! The only season that feels dated, frankly, is the 4th season, as it started to fall into the uncanny valley. But that season was in 2001, so I'm not holding it against it.
In previous rounds, when a strong defence force appeared, the attack force would back off for a couple rounds, and aim elsewhere. (see Ren & Stimpy) As we run low on shows, it seems that the attack force is really certain that the Reboot Defence Force is off its rocker, and that there is nothing else at all worth voting off.
Early voters try to kill Reboot, later voters try to save it. How about we end voting at 1AM?
Unless Reboot somehow miraculously survives another round I'm gunning for Superman. Why? The only episode I remember is when he raced around the world with The Flash. More importantly, Superman is a terrible superhero. He's broken and has an awful alter ego.
superman was way more interesting to me than batman beyond. batman beyond felt like it was trying to make batman cool when batman already was fucking badass
Hey Arnold has NEGATIVE kill votes. You're seriously fear-mongering people into voting for Reboot because Hey Arnold may get eliminated? It's not even a factor in this round.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Arnold was like 11 and 5 when I last tallied hours ago.
I'm not fear mongering anyone. The fear mongering is going on via PM's telling people that they need to kill DBZ to save Hey Arnold, when, as you said (if your tally is currently accurate), Hey Arnold isn't in danger. The "Save Hey Arnold" PM campaign worked a little too well.
That was my point. If you don't want your show to go, you've got to make sure it's not even close at the end.
There are typically a lot of 11th hour votes that change kills and saves on one show to save Reboot, Courage, etc, in favor of something previously thought safe. It sounds nuts, but some good shows went early because some of us assumed they were safe.
It also sends a message to not waste kills on good shows before top ten. I've also gotten pms to kill Arnold, and I just won't do it.
A Human Becoming
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Batman Beyond is better for three reason:
- It's not about Superman.
- It's not about Superman.
- It's a continuation of the Animated Series, bringing in a new Batman in a darker, near future with the old Batman as his mentor.
superman had a better rogues gallery. darkseid, braniac, and luthor, were all cooler/more interesting than what beyond brought to the table. even mr mxyzptlk was pretty fun.
i didn't like that for all of batman's work, the city continued to get worse. beyond felt unnecessary. like the people in charge felt they were losing their audience so they had to make batman edgy.
This is why I'd vote for Superman before Beyond.
I'd have kept X-Men instead of Beyond, to be honest.
You should watch some of Superman before condemning it. At least more than the Flash episode. It's really good.
A Human Becoming
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Look again at my first two reasons.
Superman is a terrible super hero. He's broken by being nearly unbeatable (If you have time, watch this. It's very entertaining). His one weakness is incredibly specific and toxic for long term human exposure. The guy is the ultimate goodie two shoes. The worst thing I ever heard of him doing is giving someone a labatomy. Did that even happen in the series? His alter ego is pretty lame too, which I heard someone explain is suppose to reflect how much humans suck.
I think they succeeded making it edgy. It retains qualities of TAS while claiming a new identity with the old and new Batman dynamic. It's more about the insecurities of humans than good vs evil, which TAS leaned more toward (To be honest though, I haven't seen much of TAS recently).
None of these complaints have anything to really do with the show itself, just your thoughts on the character while admitting you haven't really watched it.
Watch the show with an open mind and see how you feel after.
As far as arguing he's "broken" or "too powerful," then I'd implore you even further to watch. He's really defeatable in that show.
Watch the show with an open mind and see how you feel after.
As far as arguing he's "broken" or "too powerful," then I'd implore you even further to watch. He's really defeatable in that show.
Spectral Glider
Member
For about the millionth time:
Kill: Reboot
Kill: Reboot
Save: Courage
Kill: Reboot
Kill: Reboot
Save: Courage
Doctor Decimate
Member
seriously, Superman gets messed the hell up in the DCAU
Spectral Glider
Member
I never watched Superman, so I can't comment on it at all. But I remember thinking I was just going to hate Batman Beyond with every fiber of my being after TAS and I was shocked by how much I loved it. So much so that I bought some of the DVDs when they first came out and I rarely do that with cartoon shows.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
I was speaking on Superman as a whole, not the show. I did watch it when I was younger and from the episode I just watched my complaints on him still stand.
Superman is defeated only in the sense he gets beat up too much. All it takes for him is to rest a little while. I've always thought of him as a hero who allows himself to be punished because really, when you look at what he's capable of, he shouldn't have any problem. Superman can move as quick as the Flash yet he can't move faster than a helicopeter. It makes no sense!
MikeHattsu
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RumblingRosco
Member
I need to make a "RTTP: ReBoot, let's remember how great this show was!" thread and then somewhere in the OP link this thread and get people in here to vote to save it.
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
I recently marathoned the entire first season of Batman Beyond on Netflix. It's really good. Plus it still has the best Bruce Wayne VA as a badass old man.
The show itself is really dark and, at points, edgy, so it's understandable why some Batman TAS fans dislike it.
It also has Blight, a criminally underused character. Still one of the cooler DCAU original villains.
I prefer Superman the most out of all DC animated universe actually. It actually has an interesting ongoing story line being mysterious shadowy figure backing the Intergang and concluded with Dark Seid invading the Earth, and continued on into Justice League.
I like that. For me, Batman, Batman Beyond, and Justice League felt like a very loosely connected episodes, but not so much with Superman.
edit: Brainiac also have a good ongoing plots in that series.
I like that. For me, Batman, Batman Beyond, and Justice League felt like a very loosely connected episodes, but not so much with Superman.
edit: Brainiac also have a good ongoing plots in that series.
Your counting was way off then. I had a vote count before noon and Arnold was no higher than 1 or 2 total votes, factoring in people who initially saved it. Someone must've spread the word it was "in danger" and now, after edits, it has excess saves.
MrCunningham
Member
My first vote in this thread:
Edit: Ooh I didn't real the rules...
I guess I want Courage the Cowardly Dog gone, because it is the only cartoon in this list I have never heard of, so I could live without it. Reboot on the other hand still holds up as one of my favorite shows from the 90's. Yeah, the CGI hadn't aged well, but the writing was great, especially from season 2 onwards.
Kill: Courage
Kill: Courage
Save: Reboot
Edit: Ooh I didn't real the rules...
I guess I want Courage the Cowardly Dog gone, because it is the only cartoon in this list I have never heard of, so I could live without it. Reboot on the other hand still holds up as one of my favorite shows from the 90's. Yeah, the CGI hadn't aged well, but the writing was great, especially from season 2 onwards.
Kill: Courage
Kill: Courage
Save: Reboot
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
One of the best things about the DCAU is that every series at some point crosses over into the others. Superman ends up appearing Batman TAS (Really the New Batman Adventures), Batman Beyond, Static Shock, and of course Justice League. The true series finale of Batman Beyond is actually just an episode of Justice League: Unlimited, and it ends up featuring Project Cadmus as well as Phantasm, from the Batman TAS film Mask of the Phantasm.
From my notepad document at the time I tallied:
Kills:
Arnold: iiiiiiiiiii
Saves:
Arnold - iiiiii
11/6, for a total of 5. I don't think that included the post made right after that which had 2 Hey Arnold kills in it, bringing it to 7. After that, in the two hours before you posted about it, it somehow went from 7 to like -2.
How? Yeah, someone PM'd people telling them Arnold was in danger.
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