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Titanfall's exclusivity based on EA's XB1/PS4 forecasts, still feel very comfortable
- Thread starter Canis lupus
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Totally possible. I'm unconvinced Sony actually cares at all about TF. Sony is definitely not done giving Handouts though. Not if they want to remain competitive at least. The Handouts will never end for either company.
Freedom = $1.05
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In their defense, no one could've predicted what a clusterfuck 2013 was going to be for the xbone. I mean, no one has fucked up the buildup to a new machine that badly since Sega with the Saturn and it can be argued that the lead up to the xbone launch was worse due to how much they stood to lose from all of the mistakes they made.
Yea. But if they're really still comfortable with the decision MS must have paid A LOT.
Yeah MS can purchase the studio so that in two years they can call the new studio they all leave to "Respawned Again".
Warm Machine
Member
Yeah,
If anyone had a game here and someone offered exclusivity on it you know that you are losing potential sales from another platform. So you take your projections of lost sales minus the benefits of being an exclusive and that is the amount of money you get for being an exclusive if it were a front loaded lump sum.
There are other ways to do it of course like higher royalty rates or lower licensing costs or what have you but they will all amount to the same thing based on risk and reward.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Only reason they would still feel comfortable is because of how much money MS gave them. It now becomes the question of will the money MS gave them to keep it exclusive be more than what they would get through PS4 sales, or less?
I personally think they will end up buying one or the other. I'm leaning more toward them getting Respawn
xn0
Member
Sadly they might be right. I think Titanfall is unquestionably going to be a system seller. I have WiiU/PS4/and my day one XB1. Out of all of them I extremely dislike my XB1 and have literally stopped playing it and migrated to PS4. That being said I will be picking up Titanfall at release for XB1 (and maybe PC). I know 5+ people right now that have disconnected their XB1 from the cable/satellite box and haven't turned on their XB1 in a over a month that are just waiting for Titanfall to release.
Lol
I bet the huge bag of money would make any company feel comfortable. Once you get paid that way, a lot of the risk is gone. You're getting paid either way, most of the time.
But this does risk critically damaging the health and growth of the series. Exempting yourself from the largest userbase of the upcoming gen for even one entry in the series is damaging if your goal was to be a centerpiece competitive FPS that could compete with the big boys. But if you're designated to one console, you'll never be able to fight the Call of Duties and Battlefield's of the world, especially if that console is inferior in power and userbase.
If they cannot get an exclusivity deal in the future (for whatever reason), then the series might potentially have stunted growth due to the decision. I am sure Respawn quietly regrets going with EA, as was reflected in the initial tweets of shock by them.
We'll see how Titanfall 1 does, but I hope it performs well enjoy to justify the decision for the franchise's future (even though it seems yet another game that carries the same problems all modern competitive FPS have, so it's not for me). The first game will be fine, they already got the moneyhat.
But this does risk critically damaging the health and growth of the series. Exempting yourself from the largest userbase of the upcoming gen for even one entry in the series is damaging if your goal was to be a centerpiece competitive FPS that could compete with the big boys. But if you're designated to one console, you'll never be able to fight the Call of Duties and Battlefield's of the world, especially if that console is inferior in power and userbase.
If they cannot get an exclusivity deal in the future (for whatever reason), then the series might potentially have stunted growth due to the decision. I am sure Respawn quietly regrets going with EA, as was reflected in the initial tweets of shock by them.
We'll see how Titanfall 1 does, but I hope it performs well enjoy to justify the decision for the franchise's future (even though it seems yet another game that carries the same problems all modern competitive FPS have, so it's not for me). The first game will be fine, they already got the moneyhat.
I'm sure MS paid them well enough to offset the sales thy'll lose from PS4. And it was a really smart deal on their part, most of the people I know who have an X1 got it in anticipation of Titanfall. So far it's a pretty strong system seller and it's not even out yet.
As for Titanfall 2, I expect it to be on PS4, personally.
As for Titanfall 2, I expect it to be on PS4, personally.
Could be, since it's certainly off to a good start. It's just the PS4 numbers that probably don't fall inline with their earlier projections.
Well you are paying premium on technically inferior spec product ;
don't hate apple boys it's just a joke
Interfectum
Member
Personally, I think MS will try to buy the IP, not the studio. Vince is already rich as fuck,
If Titanfall 1 does gangbusters I have no doubt MS will attempt to buy the IP. I wouldn't expect this series on PS4 anytime soon.
i don't think this studio will ever be up for sale.
I think that's what Respawn wanted to avoid in the first place, they wanted full creative control and ownership over their IP. I am not sure that's a path Respawn wants to go down. Not that Microsoft wouldn't try, and anybody could be convinced given enough money. But I am not sure Vince would want to do that if he was honest about their goals originally for Titanfall.
Of course they could try to make yet another new IP after that and sees if it blows up in their face yet again with their publishing partner
Judging by the tweet posted earlier, he pretty much has no say how his own game is distributed. How fucking sad... especially after the COD MW/Activsion mess. This guy needs to hire a better lawyer.
Personally, I think MS will try to buy the IP, not the studio. Vince is already rich as fuck,
"Exclusive at launch"? Any word if this is timed or no?
LilWayneSuckz
Member
His studio is independent. They don't need EA to make a new IP or a sequel to Titanfall
And depending on how Titanfall sells they could publish a sequel with Ubisoft, Deep Silver, Activision (if they don't hold a grudge)
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Pretty much!
If EA knew then what they know now they probably wouldn't have made it exclusive or charged WAY more.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Are they really wrong though about the sales of their game though? Arent BF4 and CoD sales higher on XB1 compared to the PS4 despite its advantage install base?
DeadlyVirus
Member
All this full exclusive talk reminds me of Mass Effect, which was fully exclusive to the 360 and before the PS3 release of ME2 there were no intentions of a port
I think they'd try to make a new IP, not develop specifically for MS. GeOW situation.
It was originally a timed exclusive, then a few months ago the moneyhat was filled up again for full console exclusivity.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Agreed. No way Respawn sells the studio with Vince in charge. Depending on the success of the IP, though, maybe that could be sold.
Only in NA so far. Worldwide numbers should be much higher for PS4.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Based on the advertising in print and on TV, EA is very much doing everything they can to make their games on Xbox One seem superior. From trade-up deals, to TitanFall, to FIFA Legends, and Madden/NFL deals, the Xbox One sure is a fixture in EA's marketing. But alas, Peter Moore says sales of PS4 games do not lie and prove their co-marketing agreement hasn't hurt their image with PS4 owners. I disagree, but that's just my opinion.
While I'm no expert, based on things I've read and what people have said, this exclusivity thing is shaping up to be a mistake. I think that slicing off more than half of your potential audience on next generation consoles based on sales projections was a bad move. I think you could also argue that it's kneecapped the image of the brand before it first even made it out of the gate.
I don't doubt it will sell some Xbox Ones, but I get the feeling that Microsoft damaged the X1's image to the point where people would sooner buy more powerful gaming PC's to play it on than the Xbox.
Just my thoughts anyway.
I don't doubt it will sell some Xbox Ones, but I get the feeling that Microsoft damaged the X1's image to the point where people would sooner buy more powerful gaming PC's to play it on than the Xbox.
Just my thoughts anyway.
Diablo Rosso
Member
It's this kind if decision making that has got EA in the situation they are in. I don't how or why they they ever thought this deal was a good idea.
gundamkyoukai
Member
EA bet on the wrong horse and Titanfall going to pay the price .
I still expect it to do good but not as well as it could have it's not on PS4 which has the most sales and last gen software sales drying up faster than anyone thought .
I still expect it to do good but not as well as it could have it's not on PS4 which has the most sales and last gen software sales drying up faster than anyone thought .
Off-Kilter
Banned
So they're still "very comfortable", right now, not bringing it to the leading platform?
Well ok then.
Well ok then.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Well the PS4 is available worldwide the XB1 isnt. I dont see how only NA is a bad thing through MS/EA eyes. They knew what they were getting into.
QuantumZebra
Member
I believe the online only DRM had a hand in this. EA was the one pushing for it.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
There is a reason EA put PS4 and Xbone software sales together in their financial report.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
EA isn't stupid, they aren't going to sell an ip worth potentially billions, nor the studio that makes it. If ps4 continues to sell strong, they aren't going to walk away from potential sales, ether.
I mean, look at the mass effect series for example. First was hyped up as a major exclusive, but it still went multiplatform two and on.
Stumpokapow
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neogaf mods were in on it too, especially shinobi601. that mod is the most biast of all.
Peter Moore going to EA was the best coup Microsoft could have had. It is so clear that Peter Moore's previous relationship with Microsoft has led to an extremely easy going relationship between the two that has given them extreme preferential treatment.
I find it amusing because EA already cannot stop getting broiled in scandal after scandal, and if PS4 continues its trajectory, it's only eventually going to be bad business. But as long as Microsoft is willing to pay, I'd probably do the same. Mitigates some risk, and this industry is risky as fuck these days
I would think the last guys wanting to be bought out would be the respawn folks. I mean, considering their origin...
Interfectum
Member
It's not EA's IP is it? Isn't this an EA partners game?
EA doesn't own the Titanfall IP, Respawn does.
yea, most likely a trade off
Cboat might have been right back then tho bout it only being a year lockdown and maybe after the backlash of going DRM
and more money
TitanPilot
Neo Member
Or, maybe Sony buys Respawn. They can point to their relationship with Naughty Dog Studio and how they allowed them a lot of freedom making their games.
Ppssibly but there was a thread recently where Sony stated that they were not gonna invest in third party exclusivity.
I would be shocked if they did considering the Activision fallout was ugly and they don't want a repeat.