UK police arrest woman after immigrant walks into her home

P:axMagellanic said:
ITV aired an interview with one of these invading Morlocks trying to garner sympathy, the audacity.
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In a vacuum I could partial feel some slight empathy for the guy. he might be a genuinely nice guy who just wants to get a job and build a life .

But it's not a vacuum.
Peoples anger is 25+ of mass immigration, no housing and huge crime that's been hidden from the public.
All you have to do is look at Germany's crime stats. They record every crime with every suspects nationality - it's insane the amount commited by foreign nationals almost unreal.

This is what the looney left don't understand. People have voted against mass immigration every single time for the last 15 years and it's only increase. Houses all gone etc. and they are sick and tired of being called racist and far right for having normal sane views that immigrant has made them poorer.

And now watching illegals migrates getting military escorts by the French, only for British border force to safety pick them up like a taxi and then given 4 star hotels. And then moved into a free houses all paid for by the tax payer while british go homeless.

Oh and lets just forget that where everyone of these hotels goes that are filled with men, crime follows.

The home office keeps pumping out videos gaslighting the public with videos of how they are stopping the boats, if people come here illegally they will be sent back. No wonder they wanted the online safety act..
 
ItsGreat said:
After reading your little diatribe it would seem you're the one dishing out the mindless takes. Do you have any Muslim friends?

Donald mac Ronald Donald mac Ronald I made a post that made it pretty clear how the Pakistani flag came about.
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Do you even understand the difference between an individual and demographics? I, for example, could have a Muslim friend, even 10, but I'd still insist the specific demographic is cancerous to civilized society because of the overwhelming evidence based on 20+ years of watching European cities turn into uncivilized shitholes and Muslim immigrants refusing to integrate. Yes, some immigrants have integrated in our societies and we should definitely keep them but the demographic problem needs to be addressed
 
Donald mac Ronald said:
In a vacuum I could partial feel some slight empathy for the guy. he might be a genuinely nice guy who just wants to get a job and build a life .
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Not this cunt that I watched. He said 'I'll be happy with just a bed, three meals and the government to spend about £500 a month on me'. All I could do was laugh.
 
P:axMagellanic said:
Not this cunt that I watched. He said 'I'll be happy with just a bed, three meals and the government to spend about £500 a month on me'. All I could do was laugh.
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He actually said that? I read the story on itv with the still, didn't watch the interview I will have to.

Jesus Christ they really are parasites
 
Sonik said:
Do you even understand the difference between an individual and demographics? I, for example, could have a Muslim friend, even 10, but I'd still insist the specific demographic is cancerous to civilized society because of the overwhelming evidence based on 20+ years of watching European cities turn into uncivilized shitholes and Muslim immigrants refusing to integrate. Yes, some immigrants have integrated in our societies and we should definitely keep them but the demographic problem needs to be addressed
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Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book.
 
ItsGreat said:
Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book
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Calling out an ideology, which is what a religion is, will never be racist no matter how much you people are trying to make it so. This is the equivalent of me calling nazis psychos and you crying that I'm being racist towards Germans or white people, maybe this shit was acceptable during the days when the internet had become a hugbox for the woke cult but no more. There are clear and observable facts about Europe and Islam and no matter how much you cry racism you can't deny them
 
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ItsGreat said:
Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book.
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Sonik said:
Calling out an ideology which is what a religion is will never be racist no matter how much you people are trying to make it so, this is the equivalent of me calling nazis psychos and you crying that I'm being racist towards Germans or white people, maybe this shit was acceptable during the days when the internet had become a hugbox for the woke cult but no more. There are clear and observable facts about Europe and Islam and no matter how much you cry racism you can't deny them
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You're not "calling out an ideology." You're smearing millions of people with one brush. Islam is as varied as Christianity but you're pretending it's a single bloc of extremists so you can justify your prejudice. Comparing Muslims to Nazis is a false equivalence and you know it. Nazis chose a political movement. Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.
 
ItsGreat said:
Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book.
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Not every foreign culture is equally compatible with western culture. There's a reason why Chinese and Indians integrate so much easier in western countries than people from let's say Somalia or Pakistan. The same phenomenon is happening all over the western world
 
ItsGreat said:
You're not "calling out an ideology." You're smearing millions of people with one brush. Islam is as varied as Christianity but you're pretending it's a single bloc of extremists so you can justify your prejudice. Comparing Muslims to Nazis is a false equivalence and you know it. Nazis chose a political movement. Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.
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Weird how they "born into families and cultures across the world" and yet the vast majority of them have the same medieval practices and beliefs, huh? It's as if they follow the same ideology or something. Also love how you're rejecting the comparison yet if we apply your own words to nazis, there are also nazis that are from "many different families and cultures across the world", so maybe we should stop generalizing about them too now, right?
 
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These issues keep cropping up. Why doesn't the UK government simply ban all displays of Englishness? Ban the flag, rename that part of the UK, bury the history of that region, disband all "English" sports leagues, if need be rename the English language to "British" and put protesters on a plane to Siberia until the memory of England has vanished and Pakistanis and Bangladeshi living there can finally have peace.
 
ItsGreat said:
You're not "calling out an ideology." You're smearing millions of people with one brush. Islam is as varied as Christianity but you're pretending it's a single bloc of extremists so you can justify your prejudice. Comparing Muslims to Nazis is a false equivalence and you know it. Nazis chose a political movement. Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.
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Before their ancestors were murdered/raped/enslaved they weren't Muslims.

Same is true for Christianity but unlike Islam Christianity has central power(s) and had reformation, now it's completely different and very compatible with modern world. Islam is just as barbaric as in 7th century.
 
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ItsGreat said:
Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.
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I was born in a Christian family and culture and i'm still an atheist.

Religion is a choice. It's not something you can't change like race or sex. It's a choice just like your political leanings, or whatever football team you support and what console you chose to shill.

So no, it's not racist to bash islam, christianity, atheism, etc. But do continue and use that word in every context, it's your fault it doesn't have any meaning or power anymore. Nobody cares.
 
nkarafo said:
I was born in a Christian family and culture and i'm still an atheist.

Religion is a choice. It's not something you can't change like race or sex. It's a choice just like your political leanings, or whatever football team you support and what console you chose to shill.

So no, it's not racist to bash islam, christianity, atheism, etc. But do continue and use that word in every context, it's your fault it doesn't have any meaning or power anymore. Nobody cares.
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You're hiding behind word games. you're smearing whole Muslim communities. That's not critique of ideas, that's targeting people. Calling it just ideology is a fig leaf for prejudice.

At school we were taught prejudice and stereotypes are the breeding ground for racism. You're pretending they're separate, but they're a straight line: stereotype -prejudice - discrimination -racism.

Prejudice and stereotypes are just the start racism is where it ends.
 
Donald mac Ronald said:
In a vacuum I could partial feel some slight empathy for the guy. he might be a genuinely nice guy who just wants to get a job and build a life .

But it's not a vacuum.
Peoples anger is 25+ of mass immigration, no housing and huge crime that's been hidden from the public.
All you have to do is look at Germany's crime stats. They record every crime with every suspects nationality - it's insane the amount commited by foreign nationals almost unreal.

This is what the looney left don't understand. People have voted against mass immigration every single time for the last 15 years and it's only increase. Houses all gone etc. and they are sick and tired of being called racist and far right for having normal sane views that immigrant has made them poorer.

And now watching illegals migrates getting military escorts by the French, only for British border force to safety pick them up like a taxi and then given 4 star hotels. And then moved into a free houses all paid for by the tax payer while british go homeless.

Oh and lets just forget that where everyone of these hotels goes that are filled with men, crime follows.

The home office keeps pumping out videos gaslighting the public with videos of how they are stopping the boats, if people come here illegally they will be sent back. No wonder they wanted the online safety act..
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That law was never about children. The UK Gov doesn't give a shit about children, as we have seen over the years. It's about controlling narrative indefinitely and through the control of language. I really hope the people don't lay down because it's a trojan horse. One they keep attempting to ramrod into the U.S with a similar bill.
 
ItsGreat said:
You're hiding behind word games. you're smearing whole Muslim communities. That's not critique of ideas, that's targeting people. Calling it just ideology is a fig leaf for prejudice.
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"Hey, you can't just say Nazism has no place in our society, that's smearing whole Nazi communities! After all, there were a lot of moderate Nazis, hell, many of them didn't even fight in the war. I mean, sure, Nazis were responsible for rounding up and slaughtering thousands of Jews in every country they invaded based on the example of their founding leader and the principles laid out in his book, but that's no basis for ostracizing them. If you do that, you're not critiquing their ideology, you're just targeting people." 🤡
 
DaciaJC said:
"Hey, you can't just say Nazism has no place in our society, that's smearing whole Nazi communities! After all, there were a lot of moderate Nazis, hell, many of them didn't even fight in the war. I mean, sure, Nazis were responsible for rounding up and slaughtering thousands of Jews in every country they invaded based on the example of their founding leader and the principles laid out in his book, but that's no basis for ostracizing them. If you do that, you're not critiquing their ideology, you're just targeting people." 🤡
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Your Nazi comparison is the clowning here. Nazism was a short-lived political cult built on genocide.

Islam is a 1,400-year-old global faith with 2 billion people living ordinary lives, all with different interpretations. Pretending they're equivalent is just your lazy attempt to justify your prejudice.
 
ItsGreat said:
Your Nazi comparison is the clowning here. Nazism was a short-lived political cult built on genocide.

Islam is a 1,400-year-old global faith with 2 billion people living ordinary lives, all with different interpretations. Pretending they're equivalent is just your lazy attempt to justify your prejudice.
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Please tell me one single muslim country in any historical period where you would like to live.
 
I think we're well past the point of ignoring obvious problems with a certain demographic and their inability to integrate into western societies en masse. Attempts to silence people by calling them racist is no longer effective either. No one gives a shit anymore.
 
Angry_Megalodon said:
Please tell me one single muslim country in any historical period where you would like to live.
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Malaysia's alright - bloody great curry puffs, I'd live there just for them (until I get sick of eating them daily of course then I'd just move somewhere else),

EDIT: Actually Dubai? Hmmm... nah too much flash for me...
 
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StabbyStabStabStabStab said:
Malaysia's alright - bloody great curry puffs, I'd live there just for them (until I get sick of eating them daily of course then I'd just move somewhere else),

EDIT: Actually Dubai? Hmmm... nah too much flash for me...
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Malaysia has a somewhat secular take on Islam. That is why its not terrible.
But look at the countries are lean stronger into Islam, and they are all terrible places to live as a normal citizen.
 
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Malaysia's alright - bloody great curry puffs, I'd live there just for them (until I get sick of eating them daily of course then I'd just move somewhere else),
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I'd pick Turkey, which is a very "mild" muslim country and Western pros are well regarded. Food is amazing (there you get to eat real fruits, not the chemical tasteless trash we eat nowadays) and people are very welcoming, truly a great place.

However, you have to agree with religion dictating lot of events of your daily life. It's ironic that the most vocal supporters of immigration are people who label themselves as "atheist". They wouldn't stand one month in a place where religion enters your home, whether you like it or not. I'd do it only for outrageous money.
 
ItsGreat said:
You're not "calling out an ideology." You're smearing millions of people with one brush. Islam is as varied as Christianity but you're pretending it's a single bloc of extremists so you can justify your prejudice. Comparing Muslims to Nazis is a false equivalence and you know it. Nazis chose a political movement. Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.
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Somehow I sencerely doubt you're as understanding and benevolent to Christians as you are to Islam.
 
Angry_Megalodon said:
Please tell me one single muslim country in any historical period where you would like to live.
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That's a silly rhetorical question. No religion's history is great. Millions of Muslims live in Europe today as neighbours and workers. Reducing them to some caricature of failed states is just lazy prejudice.

P:axMagellanic said:
Somehow I sencerely doubt you're as understanding and benevolent to Christians as you are to Islam.
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I don't understand. What sick burn are you trying to make?
 
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Angry_Megalodon said:
I'd pick Turkey, which is a very "mild" muslim country and Western pros are well regarded. Food is amazing (there you get to eat real fruits, not the chemical tasteless trash we eat nowadays) and people are very welcoming, truly a great place.

However, you have to agree with religion dictating lot of events of your daily life. It's ironic that the most vocal supporters of immigration are people who label themselves as "atheist". They wouldn't stand one month in a place where religion enters your home, whether you like it or not. I'd do it only for outrageous money.
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That's because the athiests understand enough to know that rational thought about immigration is more important than basing shit on your "beliefs" only. Take the murder rate mentioned in Norway for example somebody brought up. Is it based on actual data regarding murder and immigration? Nope. The UK has seen a decline of murders over the years, this goes against the idea that immigrants are increasing murders. Then when somebody mentions that more people were killed in Vegas by a single person than the entire country of Norway across an entire year those murders are apparently "different" because in 2011 Anders Behring Breivik a right-wing Islamophob Christian who killed numerous Norwegian teenagers is catagorised as "not the same" for reasons too.

This is the world we live in, people making silly correlations that don't exist based on single events based on their own prejudices. Saw this recently from your typical right-wing paper and its uproar again here too

Should we start to ban religious tourists now too?

Athiests know well enough that beliefs about a group of very different people based on their association to a religion or circumstance does not define the person just because of some bad people out there.
 
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Dont fall for ragebait folks.
Keep calm and always remember. Best way to sell news is with fear or with rage.

Don't buy what your are being peddled to by the news media.

🤣
 
Major Insano said:
They're calling you out for having selective outrage, and being an islam apologist.
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They're calling out selective outrage whilst obsessively scapegoating one religion? 😂 What a crock of hypocrisy.

Criticising the prejudice in this thread isn't apologism it's just me refusing to let lazy stereotypes stand unchallenged.
 
ItsGreat said:
Here's a live stream of protests happening today.

Listen to voices in the background, you'll hear all manner of unhinged remarks. Listen to the effort the host is making to not come across as a raging racist.






EDIT:. Hehe. The ay_audits guy got arrested for breaking his CPN.

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Who would have thought, a nation whose voice is suppressed and ignored is starting to become radicalized and even violent. People like you will never be wise enough to actually hope that the anti-immigration crowd gets some concessions before they're too many and too pissed off. You and the people you vote for will continue on this path until it's way too late and then you'll blame anyone but yourselves. Hell, you'll probably claim that you were right all along about the monster you created
 
Sonik said:
Who would have thought, a nation whose voice is suppressed and ignored is starting to become radicalized and even violent. People like you will never be wise enough to actually hope that the anti-immigration crowd gets some concessions before they're too many and too pissed off. You and the people you vote for will continue on this path until it's way too late and then you'll blame anyone but yourselves. Hell, you'll probably claim that you were right all along about the monster you created
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Can't you see it for what it is? It's same old thing again and again.

From West Indians in the 50s, to scroungers in the 80s, Poles in the 00s, Romanians in the 10s and now asylum seekers every few years a new scapegoat to distract from the government failures.
 
ItsGreat said:
Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book.
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Ultimately, any group ends up defined by the majority. The majority of muslims hold views that are opposed to or even abhorent to civilised Western society.

Even many Islamic countries don't want quite a lot of muslims.

It's unsurprising when many take their holy book and prophet literally, especially when said prophet was a murderous paedophilic rapist.

Sorry, but that is the cold hard truth.
 
ItsGreat said:
They're calling out selective outrage whilst obsessively scapegoating one religion? 😂 What a crock of hypocrisy.

Criticising the prejudice in this thread isn't apologism it's just me refusing to let lazy stereotypes stand unchallenged.
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You're not being "progressive", you're not tolerant, you're not being more open-minded than others, you're not kind-hearted, you're just spouting the same bullshit and evangelizing and people are tired of it.

Get off that high horse and stop being an armchair/sofa activist, it's because people like you that Europe has reached a boiling point - then again, I suppose that everyone else besides you are "racists®", right ? 😉

I've never told anyone to fuck off in here but, I'd really appreciate if you just got lost into oblivion and stopped preaching and evangelizing, people like you are the problem and the cancer of today's society.

Native people have become guests in their own countries and you're spouting "RACISM®" left and right like it's nothing...
You pretentious, holier than thou, radicalized, evangelic, weak, racist puppet of a man...
 
Crazy what's become of the UK. Still holds the record for having the largest empire in human history and the amount of influence it's culture has had is truly endless... Now jailing it's citizens for thought crimes?
 
If Nazism had survived longer would people get a pass for being Nazis because they were born into that belief system and culture? What an odd defence of an ideology.
 
ItsGreat said:
They're calling out selective outrage whilst obsessively scapegoating one religion? 😂
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That religion is at large incompatible with the rule of secular law and democracy, how is that so fucking hard to see?

1.People thought doing business with China will turn them democratic
2. People thought appeasing Islam will make it a more progressive religion

Mind you, not a single religion is progressive, it's just that with Christianity people voiced their opinion: "you keep it private, or else". And the Christians learned what to do. Muslims still have to learn.
 
How do people live like this?

If someone walked into my home uninvited and refused to leave when I told them to, they would be leaving in a body bag shortly thereafter and I'd be fully justified in shooting them because of common sense castle doctrine and stand your ground laws.

The UK is a prime example of what happens to a country when its people give up their right to legally bear arms.
 
Poppinfresh said:
How do people live like this?

If someone walked into my home uninvited and refused to leave when I told them to, they would be leaving in a body bag shortly thereafter and I'd be fully justified in shooting them because of common sense castle doctrine and stand your ground laws.

The UK is a prime example of what happens to a country when its people give up their right to legally bear arms.
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America had guns when Biden was president and yet millions of illegals entered the country.

What changed it? Political decisions, people voted for Trump to solve this issue.
 
Difficult to separate them like that in America though. The heavily armed citizenry backstops the political process, and the state has to consider this when deciding how far and fast it is willing to go to enforce its will on the public. If Americans had been successfully disarmed, would Trump be in office right now, or would he instead be in prison or dead?

The British state has no equivalent factor to consider when making decisions against the British people. I would absolutely consider the unarmedness of the British people to be a significant factor in why the state is so emboldened to disregard (what used to be) their rights. The state effectively has a monopoly on violence when dealing with the British people and it knows it and acts like it.

The British state is more inclined to treat certain elements of the population with kid gloves in comparison, because here it knows it does not have a monopoly on violence. The paramilitary elements of this group have amply demonstrated their willingness to resort to violence without limit against any target if they are defied -with children being the preferred target- and the state knows full well the boats can carry weapons just as easily as people. The use and perceived threat of violence by this group has largely proven effective in influencing government policy.
 
Tams said:
ItsGreat ItsGreat

A reminder that this is ultimately what you are defending:

www.bbc.co.uk

Men in court over alleged rape of 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton

Two men are charged by Warwickshire Police over the attack in Nuneaton on 22 July.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Of course I'm not defending that. How do you think it's OK to use such a vile straw man against me, one that if I don't condemn an entire religion or every immigrant on the planet, then I must secretly be cheering for rapists. Genius logic That guy should have the book throw at him.
 
ItsGreat said:
Of course I'm not defending that. How do you think it's OK to use such a vile straw man against me, one that if I don't condemn an entire religion or every immigrant on the planet, then I must secretly be cheering for rapists. Genius logic That guy should have the book throw at him.
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You condemn the individual cases, but refuse to accept the root cause.

You do that because to acknowledge that Islam, and some other groups like certain Pakistanis, would see your world view crumble.

And at the same, while saying we are generalising and stereotyping, you go do the exact same thing with the protestors against uncontrolled migration.
 
ItsGreat said:
Here's a live stream of protests happening today.

Listen to voices in the background, you'll hear all manner of unhinged remarks. Listen to the effort the host is making to not come across as a raging racist.






EDIT:. Hehe. The ay_audits guy got arrested for breaking his CPN.

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Listen clown 🤡

At everyone opportunity the British public have been given to vote against more immigration they have.

In 2010 the working class abandoned labour because the conservatives promised to reduce it.

Again in 2015 and 2017
And of course Brexit 2016. That's 4 fucking times in the last 15 years.

Just over half the country voted for Brexit that's over 20 million eligible to vote.

Is over half the country racist?

Unfortunately, this protesting is what it's come to because main stream parties have ignored the voters for too long on the issue. And of course anything like this will unfortunately also attract racists.

Please Google or use an AI and look at German crimes by suspect. Germany more or less the same as UK in terms of immigrants it's taken and type.

Immigrant crime is out of control.
 
Tams said:
You condemn the individual cases, but refuse to accept the root cause.

You do that because to acknowledge that Islam, and some other groups like certain Pakistanis, would see your world view crumble.

And at the same, while saying we are generalising and stereotyping, you go do the exact same thing with the protestors against uncontrolled migration.
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Blaming Islam or Pakistanis as a root cause is lazy bigotry dressed up as politics. TPure pub bore conspiracy theories because it's easier than admitting your worldview collapses without a scapegoat.

There are criminals, religious zealots and mentals everywhere.

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You're not being "progressive", you're not tolerant, you're not being more open-minded than others, you're not kind-hearted, you're just spouting the same bullshit and evangelizing and people are tired of it.

Get off that high horse and stop being an armchair/sofa activist, it's because people like you that Europe has reached a boiling point - then again, I suppose that everyone else besides you are "racists®", right ? 😉

I've never told anyone to fuck off in here but, I'd really appreciate if you just got lost into oblivion and stopped preaching and evangelizing, people like you are the problem and the cancer of today's society.

Native people have become guests in their own countries and you're spouting "RACISM®" left and right like it's nothing...
You pretentious, holier than thou, radicalized, evangelic, weak, racist puppet of a man...
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That's a lot of rage just to avoid admitting you're scapegoating. I don't need a high horse I just refuse to swallow the lazy fantasy that 'native people are victims' while entire communities get smeared for cheap political gain.

That's all it is in the end. Far right parties are happy to stir the pot and lap up all the votes.
 
ItsGreat said:
Blaming Islam or Pakistanis as a root cause is lazy bigotry dressed up as politics. TPure pub bore conspiracy theories because it's easier than admitting your worldview collapses without a scapegoat.

There are criminals, religious zealots and mentals everywhere.



That's a lot of rage just to avoid admitting you're scapegoating. I don't need a high horse I just refuse to swallow the lazy fantasy that 'native people are victims' while entire communities get smeared for cheap political gain.

That's all it is in the end. Far right parties are happy to stir the pot and lap up all the votes.
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You've clearly never been to some of the countries many of these migrants come from. If you had, you'd not be defending them so vigorously.

Many of them are civilisationally backwards. Incredibly backwards. It's the people who make the country, ergo the people in those countries are backwards. That includes places like India, which was so bad the last time I went, that I will never go back.

But hey, you'll just use lazy accusations like 'racist' and 'bigot' against me.
 
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