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I just and simply don't get the hype around those lollis at all, but they really, REALLY want us to get them, eh? Well, I think it's a trap and will do the complete opposite of what they want. Aria is fine, but I don't really need her and the only reason I would want to is for the Anomaly team to pair her with Jane, but I can use Yanagi instead or Miyabi for that matter. Idk about the 3rd idol which looks better than the other two, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

The new characters they teased just don't look interesting to me in any way shape or form, and the mecha one looks awful as sin in terms of design imho. Hopefully they'll rerun Asura soon, otherwise I'll be saving pulls until 3.0 it looks like.
 
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Thick Thighs Save Lives said:
Wtf!? 181 limited pulls for F2P
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I guess I will play 2.6 after all.
Agent_4Seven said:
I just and simply don't get the hype around those lollis at all, but they really, REALLY want us to get them, eh?
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I skip them like everything else in 2.x :D
Does not matter anyway , I can't do Shinryu or DA with my 1.x team anymore.
 
Thick Thighs Save Lives said:
Wtf!? 181 limited pulls for F2P and 217 for Sub + BP owners in ver. 2.6!? I mean, I knew we were getting a lot of pulls based on the livestream info, but this is pretty insane. Too bad Yixuan is in the first phase with Chinatsu, otherwise I would've tried to grab a copy.

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Hmm, usually it would be the Voidhunter patches with so many pulls. They probably expect that many will drop out because of the Angels.
 
Looks like someone uploaded the ZZZ concert I mentioned a few weeks ago (the one that was held in CN). Cool production and music selection. Oh, and it's split into two parts.





Edit: They played the UCC boss theme in the concert I just linked so that got me hyped, so I did another run on UCC with Seed, Sanby, and Trigger and managed to bump the score up to a clean 40k.

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How do you always do these pull calculations for the patches...?

So, who should I pull in 2.6... exciting question for my new, two-month-old account...
I think Yuzuha is a safe bet for me to finalize my newly formed Alice/Jane team.
Then there's Yixuan, who I really like visually and who would also allow my account to cover the third endgame pillar, "Rupture," which I'm currently completely lacking. But I don't have either Lucia nor Jufufu nor the Panda...I could put her in a team with Dialyn and Nicole M6 or Astra (or level Pulchra).

To be honest, I'm not that interested in Angels. They're cute, but I don't really like their design.

Opinions / advices..?
 
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Eirulan said:
How do you always do these pull calculations for the patches...?

So, who should I pull in 2.6... exciting question for my new, two-month-old account...
I think Yuzuha is a safe bet for me to finalize my newly formed Alice/Jane team.
Then there's Yixuan, who I really like visually and who would also allow my account to cover the third endgame pillar, "Rupture," which I'm currently completely lacking. But I don't have either Lucia nor Jufufu nor the Panda...I could put her in a team with Dialyn and Nicole M6 or Astra (or level Pulchra).

To be honest, I'm not that interested in Angels. They're cute, but I don't really like their design.

Opinions / advices..?
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Can you share all of your characters? Yuzuha sounds good for you. Yixuan was/is really good, but we starting to leave the rupture meta. So i am not sure how long she will last.
 
Spyxos Spyxos first of all, thank you for your reply :)

Spyxos said:
Can you share all of your characters
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How can I share my characters?
Can I make them visible here?
I'll list the most important ones.
Already usable in the endgame (i.e., character and engine level 60, otherwise semi-optimized according to the Pareto principle due to lack of resources, as written above): YSG, Dialyn, Alice, Zhao, Astra, S11, Neko M2, Lucy M6, Nicole M6, Anby M2.
I currently have Jane in development (nearly there).
Not yet completed are Soukaku M3, Billy M1, Pulchra M6, Manato M2, Seth M1, Ben, Anton, Corin M6, Koleda, Piper.

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but we starting to leave the rupture meta
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Well, I think there will always be Rupture bosses in the Endgame modes, and I can't really go after them at the moment, or rather, I have to improvise somehow, so I would like to close this gap. My main concern is whether she will be of any use to me as a character without her preferred supports... Probably not...
 
Eirulan said:
How do you always do these pull calculations for the patches...?
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There's a disclaimer in the image I shared with the pull count for ver. 2.6, but in most gachas the pull estimates come from the latest available beta, pre‑load info, livestream details, and past patches, since a lot of end‑game modes are recurring and give the same rewards.
Eirulan said:
So, who should I pull in 2.6... exciting question for my new, two-month-old account...
I think Yuzuha is a safe bet for me to finalize my newly formed Alice/Jane team.
Then there's Yixuan, who I really like visually and who would also allow my account to cover the third endgame pillar, "Rupture," which I'm currently completely lacking. But I don't have either Lucia nor Jufufu nor the Panda...I could put her in a team with Dialyn and Nicole M6 or Astra (or level Pulchra).

To be honest, I'm not that interested in Angels. They're cute, but I don't really like their design.

Opinions / advices..?
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Yuzuha is a great pull to boost your account since she's BiS for all anomaly teams. As for Yixuan, she's a strong rupture DPS agent, and I personally enjoy her gameplay a lot. You don't need Ju Fufu because Yixuan works exceptionally well with Dialyn, and for the third slot you can just run Astra if you don't have Lucia or Panda. Nicole is a sub-standard pair for rupture agents like Yixuan since they rely on sheer force as their primary damage, which scales off HP and ignores enemy defenses entirely, which means Nicole's DEF shred goes to waste. Same reason why PEN ratio discs are basically useless on rupture agents. That said, she does provide Ether DMG bonus and also supporting buffs from whichever set you use on her, but Astra is definitely the better choice since you already have her on your account.
 
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Eirulan said:
Spyxos Spyxos first of all, thank you for your reply :)



How can I share my characters?
Can I make them visible here?
I'll list the most important ones.
Already usable in the endgame (i.e., character and engine level 60, otherwise semi-optimized according to the Pareto principle due to lack of resources, as written above): YSG, Dialyn, Alice, Zhao, Astra, S11, Neko M2, Lucy M6, Nicole M6, Anby M2.
I currently have Jane in development (nearly there).
Not yet completed are Soukaku M3, Billy M1, Pulchra M6, Manato M2, Seth M1, Ben, Anton, Corin M6, Koleda, Piper.



Well, I think there will always be Rupture bosses in the Endgame modes, and I can't really go after them at the moment, or rather, I have to improvise somehow, so I would like to close this gap. My main concern is whether she will be of any use to me as a character without her preferred supports... Probably not...
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Of course! 😊

There is a Hoyolab app for mobile and a pc site. But it is a nightmare to navigate and you get easily lost there. (I totally haven't been searching for this for 5 minutes)

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I wouldn't spend any more resources on Billy, Anby, Ben, Anton, Corin, Koleda, Piper and Seth. Always try to complete a team first. Only then should you level up additional characters. Yeah, like Thick Thighs Save Lives Thick Thighs Save Lives said, Yuzuha and Yixuan are best for you. And you can skip the angels.

Dialyn is perfect for Yixuan. You could get A ranks from the shop before like the Panda, but seems like they removed it.
 
Thank you both! :)

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Koleda
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I've actually been thinking about leveling Koleda later (not a priority), as I played a lot of the story and leveling phase with a team centered around S11 and Lucy. I really like them both, but S11 desperately needs a suitable stunner—I hardly use her anymore at the moment, even though I think she's great, especially with the new potentials.
 
Hi, just to come back to my question about Yixuan/Yuzuha – I've now decided to pull for both of them.
The question now is whether I should also try to get the engines at the same time. That would probably be expensive considering my pull stock...

For Yixuan, I have "Cauldron of Clarity" (I think it's even W5...) from that event the other day, although I've always tried to get the signature weapon for the "Damage Dealers" so far...
I'm not sure about Yuzuha's weapon, but alternatively, I still have a W5 Kaboom lying around...
 
Eirulan said:
Hi, just to come back to my question about Yixuan/Yuzuha – I've now decided to pull for both of them.
The question now is whether I should also try to get the engines at the same time. That would probably be expensive considering my pull stock...

For Yixuan, I have "Cauldron of Clarity" (I think it's even W5...) from that event the other day, although I've always tried to get the signature weapon for the "Damage Dealers" so far...
I'm not sure about Yuzuha's weapon, but alternatively, I still have a W5 Kaboom lying around...
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Yeah, the general advice is to grab their signature W‑Engines for Void Hunters if you can. For Yixuan in particular, there really wasn't a solid alternative to her signature until recently, but with the addition of Cauldron of Clarity she finally has a good F2P option.

As for Yuzuhua, you can run the W5 Kaboom you already have on your account or go with Weeping Cradle. Both are solid options for her, so just use whatever you've got available.
 
Eirulan said:
Hi, just to come back to my question about Yixuan/Yuzuha – I've now decided to pull for both of them.
The question now is whether I should also try to get the engines at the same time. That would probably be expensive considering my pull stock...
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Don't waste your time on Yuzuha sig, there's very good F2P options which is Lucy's sig - Kaboom the Cannon. As for Yixuan sweat baby Jesus.... definitely go for her sig if you have enough pulls, she doesn't have really good alternatives other than free and new W-Engine from 2.5 - It doesn't have permanent Crit Rate bonus and you have to work for it in combat, Weeping Cradle is also good for Yuzuha, but then you need to pray that you'll get it via standard banner cuz I don't recommend wasting currency on it to buy it from the new store.
 
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Perfect—thanks, you two.
So my thoughts were not wrong—Yixuan yes if possible (otherwise she works, less conveniently, with the Cauldron too), Yuzuha no. I don't have Weeping Cradle, but I have so many Kaboom copies that it was enough for two W5s (one is with Lucy).
 
Can you only participate in this strange AoD event that's currently running on your phone (on the first day, the Hoyolab app offered me the option to jump straight there, but now that option has disappeared)..?
This will probably be the first event I'll skip since I started playing. Can't be bothered to play Tetris on my phone...
 
Eirulan said:
Can you only participate in this strange AoD event that's currently running on your phone (on the first day, the Hoyolab app offered me the option to jump straight there, but now that option has disappeared)..?
This will probably be the first event I'll skip since I started playing. Can't be bothered to play Tetris on my phone...
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You can also play it on PC through your preferred browser. At least that's what I'm doing.

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Angels of Delusion training in progress...

Let's shake up boring everyday life with the Angels of Delusion!
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Great, thanks—but I still don't understand why they would outsource something like this instead of offering it in-game.
(I play on PS5, and switching devices just for this is completely ridiculous).
 
Eirulan said:
Great, thanks—but I still don't understand why they would outsource something like this instead of offering it in-game.
(I play on PS5, and switching devices just for this is completely ridiculous).
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It's available in‑game too, but it was bugged for me (I couldn't get past the Tetris tutorial part where you have to press W to rotate a falling block), so I'm just playing it in the web browser instead.

Maybe they've fixed it in the meantime, but idk as I haven't checked, and it's just easier for me to use the web version of the event anyway.

 
Eirulan said:
Ah okay, this is PC right?
It's not on PS5 - there you only get a QR Code page.
Never mind—I've finished the event now, and it was actually quite funny in terms of the dialogues.
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Odd that they implemented it that way on PS5, since on PC it's actually integrated into the game itself.

Anyways, glad you finished the event. I'll be doing it later today as well.
 
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No way I'll be pulling for him. Looks even worse than Hugo.

And...


Ugh, just NO, ZZZ team. Not even for free. WTF?

Promeia looks way better (not a fan of the stupid and impractical hair stuff on her back - what the hell? why can't they just use one hair clip instead of 5 and make her hair shine?).... when her cape is on and without it.... for real? There's almost nothing under it and it looks like they run out of ideas and just decided "that'll do", so she looks like a stripper:

 
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Agent_4Seven said:

No way I'll be pulling for him. Looks even worse than Hugo.

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Ugh, just NO, ZZZ team. Not even for free. WTF?

Promeia looks way better (not a fan of the stupid and impractical hair stuff on her back - what the hell? why can't they just use one hair clip instead of 5 and make her hair shine?).... when her cape is on and without it.... for real? There's almost nothing under it and it looks like they run out of ideas and just decided "that'll do", so she looks like a stripper:

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Wait she has this huge tail? meh skip.
 
Spyxos said:
I didnt even notice the tail in the vid you posted, but i am kinda tired of the whole tailes and tentacles.
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You can see it here, but it's clipping into the couch. Tail or no tail, I personally like her design a lot. Definitely going to pull for her.

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Thick Thighs Save Lives said:
Her in-game version I've posted above looks way better than the renders you posted here.
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Yeah, I saw it, just posted 3D render with 360 view. I absolutely hate her design with every fiber of my being. They haven't even tried.

The good thing about all this is that I'll have plenty of pulls to save for Asura's rerun to grab him and his sig right away and I pre-farmed for him before he even launched so I don't have to do that already, just do discs and that's it, hmm, I probably should do that ahead of time too.
 
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To each their own. It's not like everyone should like every character in the game which'll never gonna happen anyway. More pulls for those who skip, less pulls for those who don't. I've very low expectations for 3.0 after seeing what's in store for the next few months.
 
Hyper commission 2.0 (including PEAK) is up on Apple Music (and seemingly everywhere else):
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Hyper Commission 2.0 (Zenless Zone Zero Original Soundtrack) by Sān-Z & HOYO-MiX on Apple Music

Album · 2026 · 109 Songs
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1-18 is all the waifei/shops bgm stuff
23 onwards is all the mission/exploration stuff
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PEAK by Sān-Z & HOYO-MiX on Apple Music

Song · 2026 · Duration 3:25
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There's some more bangers on it like trigger's battle theme:
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Stygian Scope by Sān-Z & HOYO-MiX on Apple Music

Song · 2026 · Duration 2:54
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Geppetto's theme:
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Puppet on Strings by Sān-Z & HOYO-MiX on Apple Music

Song · 2026 · Duration 2:46
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Hugo's sick castlevania/bayonetta theme:
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The Evil by Sān-Z & HOYO-MiX on Apple Music

Song · 2026 · Duration 2:21
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Here's some cool S11 and Obol Squad pixel art from a JP Anby fan account. My guy learned pixel art last year just to make these of his favorite ZZZ characters, so I've gotta give props for that. He also posts lots of S11 and SAnby DA and SD runs, and you can find him on Twitter at @ikiad_dragali.

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Took a look at the neps officer leak, and her design looks fine, but I don't think it fits neps at all, they have a pretty strong design language to them to the point you can tell random officers+playable agents all look like they belong to the same group, with only jane as an outlier because she works undercover; even the neps bangboo looks like neps.

This new one I'd have no idea she was neps if the letters weren't on her clothing/tail.

It's like they just designed a new character, then someone on the writing team said they needed a new person for neps, so they just slapped the letters on this character and called it a day.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
Took a look at the neps officer leak, and her design looks fine, but I don't think it fits neps at all, they have a pretty strong design language to them to the point you can tell random officers+playable agents all look like they belong to the same group, with only jane as an outlier because she works undercover; even the neps bangboo looks like neps.

This new one I'd have no idea she was neps if the letters weren't on her clothing/tail.

It's like they just designed a new character, then someone on the writing team said they needed a new person for neps, so they just slapped the letters on this character and called it a day.
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Yes, it looks cheap. The design is weak.
 
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Reizo Ryuu said:
Took a look at the neps officer leak, and her design looks fine, but I don't think it fits neps at all, they have a pretty strong design language to them to the point you can tell random officers+playable agents all look like they belong to the same group, with only jane as an outlier because she works undercover; even the neps bangboo looks like neps.

This new one I'd have no idea she was neps if the letters weren't on her clothing/tail.

It's like they just designed a new character, then someone on the writing team said they needed a new person for neps, so they just slapped the letters on this character and called it a day.
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Yep, I don't dislike the design, but they really gave up on their design principles for squads. Even Cunning Hares, who all have a unique look, jelled together because of the city techwear type feel. The new girl is a completely different feel/aesthetic altogether. Would have fit 50% of Spook Shack. I guess it does match up with Jane's swimsuit skin, now that I think about it.

Anyways, I'll probably pull for her regardless.


So I've been down to almost 0 gaming time the past few weeks, but I managed to get all of the current patch stuff done (events that were still available and the story) from 2.5. Overall, I really liked the Qingming Sword domain event. Nice short story with main plot relevance, good gameplay, the unique gameplay gimmick was fun.. It was a bit short (good for me since I was rushing it at the very end), but I like the format quite a bit. Reminded me a bit of "Banners Never Fall" mode from WuWa, my favorite patch event that the game ever had. You build up your team with extra buffs over time and it all ties in to bosses and trials.

Main story was a mixed bag. I like what they did with YSG, but they really fucked up the delivery and pacing again (a ZZZ staple at this point). They also did way too much reiteration of the main takeaway points - YSG wanting to choose for herself, her brother wanting to save her, Proxy never forgetting her. Felt like every 3rd dialogue line was one of those points, hammered into you over and over and over again. It reminded me of the Stranger Things storytelling directives by Netflix - Repeat the same shit over and over so that people that aren't really paying attention can still get the gist of the story. They also, more than in most previous chapters, did a lot of the philosophical waxing that HoYo games are now known for, and are becoming burdensome with.

It's crazy to me how good they did the waifu-bait story with Firefly in HSR, and have never been able to replicate it properly in one of their games since. (Note - I do think they eventually ruined the Firefly story, but at 2.0 it was perfect, but that's off-topic). Even making that flashback scene where YSG meets Proxy as a child and gets her music box repaired/Osmanthus candy like 4 patches ago could have been such a nice payoff if they handled it correctly. But as it was, the Proxy says "You gotta move forward, or you'll never know" and then they do the flashback 1-2 scenes later that says the exact same thing. It felt so out of place and stupid.

Anyways, for 2.5 being such a hyped patch by the livestream and freebies, I don't feel like they addressed any of the main pain points people have with the narrative.
 
There hasn't been much visual cohesion among faction members since 2.0 sadly.

But apart from that the blonde lady does look nice imo. Let's see how she plays. I should have enough pulls to guarantee her since the three stooges are an easy skip for me.
 
Thanks for unspoilering the spoiler tags I guess...
White hair looks fine just very boring, blue hair looks interesting reminds me of nifl from FEH.

Anyway update is up, they gave the angels a log-in intro like the void hunters lol.
 
Are they for real with a whole month for this Sunna abomination? And Aria only has 13 days just like they did for Asura?

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Man, they're delusional if they think this update will be successful on its own and I think they know, which is why sweet baby Jesus is on a rerun for those who don't have her yet and her sig - easily the best option aside from Aria.
 
Agent_4Seven said:
Are they for real with a whole month for this Sunna abomination? And Aria only has 13 days just like they did for Asura?

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Man, they're delusional if they think this update will be successful on its own and I think they know, which is why sweet baby Jesus is on a rerun for those who don't have her yet and her sig - easily the best option aside from Aria.
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Sunna lasts the whole month? lmao. Looks like all patches will now have such strange runtimes.
 
Pah, Yixuan plus her Quingming Birdcage has now cost me 210 pulls – not the happiest day... Haven't won a single character 50/50 yet – but then again, I haven't lost a single weapon 75/25 either...
Completely broke in-game for now...^^ :)
 
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