Prince of Space
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This is the worst possible advice; not least because book 3 ends with a substantial cliffhanger.
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Dark Tower: Clashing Visions, Brutal Test Screenings Plagued Journey to Big Screen
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This is the worst possible advice; not least because book 3 ends with a substantial cliffhanger.
darkstar0155
Member
5th is a prequel? What? Unless your talking about that one book that was written years after the series was finished and I don't even really consider it part of the main story. 5 is Wolves of the Calla. If your going to stop anywhere stop at the end of 5.
Probably confusing 4 for 5.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Nobody should stop without reading Wizards and Glass. It may not be a huge link in moving forward, being largely a flashback, but it is probably one of King's strongest works and works just fine as a standalone.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I'm looking forward to reading the book series, but the commercials for the film to a poor job of conveying what it's even about.
This means they wouldn't read book 4, and book 4 is the best book in the series.
darkistheway
Member
Tom Rothman is involved. There's your problem.
darkstar0155
Member
Yeah, it may be one of my favorite of his books he's ever written, except IT and the Stand. That ending... ROLAND I LOVE THEE!! fuck me.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Yep.
Chained Prometheus
Member
Yup. It's by far the high water mark of The Dark Tower series.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I still think he's a great villain, but he's never usually the main one. He's always just behind the scenes wreaking havoc.
afternoon delight
Member
I'm not surprised, I just knew any adaptation would struggle with the actual content. This world isn't good enough for a live action demon Leone film, even after all these years. Not palatable enough.
Nobody. It's one of King's best, and a perfect way to end the Dark Tower series.
Agreed. At the very least, it's uneven enough to require a great deal of creative and intelligent editing.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Just like the book it would have presented itself as a western at first but throughout the film you're introduced to these technological quirks. By the end you realize you're looking at a ruined civilization. THEN the sequels become all a tech trip as this film wants to be off the bat. BOOM. Someone hire me as a producer or secondary writer/idea person.
cr0w
Old Member
That's not what they're doing, though. It's a Gunslinger adaptation, with elements from other books included. If it's successful, they'll move forward with the rest.
Agreed. Aside from *BOOK 7 SPOILERS*
Eddie's death
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Never read the books. Took one look at the trailer and saw massive bomb potential
They deserve zero credit for spidey beyond "Didnt fuck it up again"
NealMcCauley
Member
Does 7:19 have any significance to the series? I'm looking at Thursday showtimes and that's the first show for almost all the theaters.
Prince of Space
Banned
I'm sold.
Simo
Member
I picked up the art book last week and was surprised at the amount of stuff from the books is in the film like a thinny, Marelyns Rainbow, Deva-Toi, the Breakers and their own version of the Battle of Jericho Hill etc. I'll be checking it out Friday anyway.
The art book did surprisngly reveal that the original script was pretty much a straight adaptation of book 3 but got dropped once the project went over to Sony and they got their director.
The art book did surprisngly reveal that the original script was pretty much a straight adaptation of book 3 but got dropped once the project went over to Sony and they got their director.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I have heard this isn't all that accurate anymore
Guess I'll set my expectations really low. Lol.
Yeah, I think they are starting at The Drawing of Three, and they skipped The Gunslinger.
Yeah, I think they are starting at The Drawing of Three, and they skipped The Gunslinger.
Simo
Member
Yes. The number 19 has significance in the books and as a little nod the first Showtimes are at 7:19pm or 19:19 in military time.
cr0w
Old Member
Huh, weird. So it's closer to an amalgamation of 1, 2 and 3 I guess with very little time spent in Mid-World? It would seem that way since everything focuses on Roland making it to our world.
Simo
Member
More like a mix of book 1,3 and 7. It's also about 60/40 between Keystone Earth and Mid-World.
19 is important to the series (number the characters start noticing a lot later in the books), not sure about 7, think 7 might just be because that's when a lot of "midnight" screenings start these days.
There are technically 8 books in the series now, but it might have been referring to the original 7 books as well.
NealMcCauley
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cr0w
Old Member
Huh, didn't expect them to move to 7 so quickly, though I guess it makes sense if a sequel isn't confirmed.
Simo
Member
It's just some like the Deva-Toi and breakers from that book.
Prince of Space
Banned
Really, the only elements from The Gunslinger that seem to be in the film are Roland, MiB, and Jake. Every recognizable scene or set piece from the trailers comes from The Waste Lands.
cr0w
Old Member
Interesting, thanks.
My wife is about halfway through book 4 and frothing at the mouth over this movie (she REALLY likes Idris), so hopefully it won't be too disappointing. Like I said earlier, I'm looking at it as a separate entity from the books completely, so I'm sure I'll be fine with it unless it's on the level of, say, Divergent or something.
My wife is about halfway through book 4 and frothing at the mouth over this movie (she REALLY likes Idris), so hopefully it won't be too disappointing. Like I said earlier, I'm looking at it as a separate entity from the books completely, so I'm sure I'll be fine with it unless it's on the level of, say, Divergent or something.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I am really curious why? I admittedly didn't read past the first book because I couldn't decide if I want to read something so massive as the next few books in English (not my first language), and I wasn't sure if I should opt for translation of possibly questionable quality either. But the first book is short, and i thought the atmosphere it painted was astonishing, and unlike anything I've read/imagined before, or even seen after. I actually think the only piece of media that somewhat captures the way Dark Tower world looks in my mind is Bloodborne. The way I had it in my head was that despite the sun and the desert, everything was completely rotten and disgusting looking in that world, as King spared no effort to present it as such. Rotting world, rotting people. It is something I think the movie doesn't even attempt to properly capture, and it does look more like some YA novel based movie, as someone said earlier.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The fate is there isn't any
Robdraggoo
Member
Unless your last name is Reiner or Durabont, best stay away from king adaptations.
I can't tell you how depressing this is for me. The Dark Tower is my favorite property of all time-I've read it my entire life and it means so much to me. To see it get this fate is just gutwrenching.
If this bombs that show is never happening.
ChubbyHuggs
Member
The trailers didn't fill me with faith and this just crushed any hopes it'll be good.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
Elba's not the problem here.
Prince of Space
Banned
Re: the TV series
So the plan now is still to have it be mostly an adaptation of Wizard and Glass, but with bits from The Gunslinger thrown in, and be "totally canon" with the books -- unlike the movie, which is mostly its own thing.
Yeah, this is never happening.
So the plan now is still to have it be mostly an adaptation of Wizard and Glass, but with bits from The Gunslinger thrown in, and be "totally canon" with the books -- unlike the movie, which is mostly its own thing.
Yeah, this is never happening.
The only time race matters is with Detta's initial relationship with Roland. That was such a lowpoint of characterization in the series, I would not be sad to see it go.
GeorgioCostanzaX
Member
No kidding yeesh. I think at this point adapting novel series to the big screen is a waste of time: I'd watch the hell out of a Dark Tower HBO/Cable prestige series but condensing a world into a 2 hour film is just patently uninteresting to me.
JaseMath
Member
You're not wrong. 1-4 are incredible. 5-7 are crap by comparison.
iamdarkcloud
Member
It is the Masters of the Universe movie version of The Dark Tower -- where we spend as much time in the real world as possible to cut down on the cost (at least that is how I see from the trailers) - I am hoping to be happily surprised and it could be low key awesome, but King has already pulled a George Lucas on this series when he put out the last three and rewrote the first one & it is lacking that grit and terror the first original four books had.
That being said the standalone book The Wind Through the Keyhole was a pretty worthwhile read despite the Roland & company scenes reading like fan fiction.
That being said the standalone book The Wind Through the Keyhole was a pretty worthwhile read despite the Roland & company scenes reading like fan fiction.
ThankeeSai
Member
I'll definitely still go and see it, but this is not good news 