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[Lorcain]

Waifus kill love, not porn. Waifu porn on the other hand kills all.

 

[NullPointer]

Coincidentally, they sure do have a lot of merchandise to sell.

 

[KazenY2J]

Ah yet another thead where GAFers ignore the negative effects porn can have.

If you do it 5 times in a day, then no shit.

 

[reKon]

Ah yet another thead where GAFers ignore the negative effects porn can have.

The response to this post so far is funny to me because it's exactly the response I expected from Gaffers who are going to be posting in this thread.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Our goal is to spark a conversation around the subject using science, facts

Ah yet another thead where GAFers ignore the negative effects porn can have.

I'm curious to hear about these effects. Please elaborate!

 

[TheSlySoul]

Ah yet another thead where GAFers ignore the negative effects porn can have.

If you are talking about addiction, you can lump booze and gambling in there as well. Do not see anything else really wrong with it, not my cup of tea though.

 

[PsychBat!]

The response to this post so far is funny to me because it's exactly the response I expected from Gaffers who are going to be posting in this thread.

What do you expect for a drive by post?

 

[HiredN00bs]

Watching porn makes Jesus cry but it's okay because he gets off on you asking for forgiveness.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

It does? I always viewed porn as a special kind of P.E. Class.

It's fun, great exercise and if you pay attention you actually learn a thing or two.

 

[perfectchaos007]

If you're a single guy/lady are you expected to just use your imagination to get off? These Mormons must think everyone has as vivid of an imagination as them

 

[Mailbox]

Not if you watch it with your S.O. it doesn't.

Also, porn practically facilitates public use and distribution of advancing tech.

DVD, digital distribution, and probably soon VR probably wouldn't have been as big if it wasn't for porn.

I may be getting my facts mixed up though.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

If you're a single guy/lady are you expected to just use your imagination to get off? These Mormons must think everyone has as vivid of an imagination as them

imagining Satan lurking behind every corner must be good exercise.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Ah yet another thead where GAFers ignore the negative effects porn can have.

Go on.

 

[HariKari]

Go on.

He's going to try and sell you a 12 month subscription to r/nofap

 

[Easy_D]

Yes, as an European I constantly ask myself: "What do the fine people in Bay Area think about this?"

 

[KevinCow]

If you're a single guy/lady are you expected to just use your imagination to get off? These Mormons must think everyone has as vivid of an imagination as them

I think the idea is that you're not supposed to get off at all until you're married.

 

[Fury451]

eh, love is just a chemical reaction for reproduction

You must be fun at sex parties.

 

[Mailbox]

Ah yet another thead where GAFers ignore the negative effects porn can have.

You mean like how it can cause desensitizing which can cause lessening arousal or how it can cause misconceptions of sex in teens and young adults?

We know, I just don't think that's worth demonizing it as anti-love is smart (or worth it in any regard)

Also: sexual repression is really really bad for you.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

I think the idea is that you're not supposed to get off at all until you're married.

and probably not after either, just to be safe.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

I laugh every time I see stuff like this.

Back in the day I used to do freelance desktop and laptop repair. I go to a prominent anti-premarital sex, anti-Sex Ed, anti-masturbation, anti-everything preacher and once I got his computer booting again, I go to download AVG Free and run a virus scan, and he has a whole folder dedicated to "Saggy Tits".

 

[not psycho]

In some cases it can...

Clyde Bruckman: You know there are worse ways to go, but I can’t think of a more undignified way than autoerotic asphyxiation.
Mulder: Why are you telling me that?
Bruckman: Look, forget I mentioned it. It’s none of my business.

 

[Mailbox]

I laugh every time I see stuff like this.

Back in the day I used to do freelance desktop and laptop repair. I go to a prominent anti-premarital sex, anti-Sex Ed, anti-masturbation, anti-everything preacher and once I got his computer booting again, I go to download AVG Free and run a virus scan, and he has a whole folder dedicated to "Saggy Tits".

Oh god. Of all the fetishes of people around me, saggy tits is the most questionable I've heard.... How odd

 

[Hylian7]

He's going to try and sell you a 12 month subscription to r/nofap

There are people that pay for r/nofap and the other trash on Reddit?

 

[rpmurphy]

I laugh every time I see stuff like this.

Back in the day I used to do freelance desktop and laptop repair. I go to a prominent anti-premarital sex, anti-Sex Ed, anti-masturbation, anti-everything preacher and once I got his computer booting again, I go to download AVG Free and run a virus scan, and he has a whole folder dedicated to "Saggy Tits".

Sounds like a true connoisseur of great grandma porn.

 

[Ivan 3414]

The people who made the fonts are jerking off.
The people who wrote that are jerking off.
The people who put up that sign? Jerking off.
The people who made the website? Jerking off as we speak.
The people who are behind the organization? They go home and beat the shit out of their genitalia.

...Might want to take a seat for this one.

Spoiler

Not everyone jerks off regularly, or watches porn.

What do you expect for a drive by post?

Like there aren't a ton of those on both sides of the fence?

 

[Ivan 3414]

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[Deleted member 1159]

*Looks at pictures*

CTR+F "Mormon"

Knew it. When I lived in a suburb of Salt Lake City this group was out passing flyers, driving up to mailboxes the wrong way up the street and putting them inside.

When they got to my house I yelled "MAILBOX IS FOR THE MAILMAN!" and the old lady driving looked like she saw Satan himself.

 

[chronic_archaic]

Can't disagree with this statement more. I know some associate sex and love as a whole, but they can and are often mutually exclusive. If anything I believe being comfortable with your sexuality leads to a healthier relationship

 

[fastmower]

The people who made the fonts are jerking off.
The people who wrote that are jerking off.
The people who put up that sign? Jerking off.
The people who made the website? Jerking off as we speak.
The people who are behind the organization? They go home and beat the shit out of their genitalia.

LMAO

 

[CelticKnight]

http://www.fightthenewdrug.org/category/get-the-facts/brain/

On the surface, cocaine and porn don’t seem to have a lot in common but studies are showing that viewing pornography tricks your brain into releasing the same pleasure chemicals that drugs do.

Wow. Someone watching something that they enjoy makes them feel pleasure. Who'd have fuckin' thought that?

I'd be more embarrassed if someone found that website in my internet history than a site like YouPorn...

 

[TheSpoiler]

...Might want to take a seat for this one.

Spoiler

Not everyone jerks off regularly, or watches porn.

Like there aren't a ton of those on both sides of the fence?

Wow! You don't say!

Also, I think driveby commentary from people who don't subscribe to some bunk ass science are a little more tolerable than people who get their stats from antimormonmasturbatortoday.com

 

[params7]

Some people can't differentiate between fantasy and reality it seems. Porn is fine you Mormons (at least in some limit, but that need for balance goes for everything else in life).

 

[Red Arremer]

Ah yet another thead where GAFers ignore the negative effects porn can have.

This topic isn't about negative effects porn can (or can't) have, it's about porn having a negative effect on love (in this case porn killing love), which, quite frankly, it does not.

I've been in a few relationships, and in every single one of them, I enjoyed sharing porn with my boyfriend at that time and talking about it. Sometimes we would both find it hot, sometimes we wouldn't, and it would help us understand each other a little more. Also can be some nice inspiration or, well... start I guess.

 

[Count Dookkake]

I laugh every time I see stuff like this.

Back in the day I used to do freelance desktop and laptop repair. I go to a prominent anti-premarital sex, anti-Sex Ed, anti-masturbation, anti-everything preacher and once I got his computer booting again, I go to download AVG Free and run a virus scan, and he has a whole folder dedicated to "Saggy Tits".

You really got the lowdown on him.

 

[SilentRacoon]

Well I might me in the middle of a dilemma, what if I love to have both at the same time?

 

[Shard]

Good luck with that, they are probably going to need it.

 

[BocoDragon]

It's just another piece of information that the Internet has democratized.

Sure I can see it being harmful to old paradigms, just as the MP3 was. We have to adapt to the fact that we have unlimited access to visuals of sexuality.

But in terms of the "mental health" rebranding of what are basically religious taboos... Nope. I don't think it inherently hurts something fundamental to human relationships at all.

 

[qcf x2]

The people who made the fonts are jerking off.
The people who wrote that are jerking off.
The people who put up that sign? Jerking off.
The people who made the website? Jerking off as we speak.
The people who are behind the organization? They go home and beat the shit out of their genitalia.

Masturbation and porn are not one in the same. I mean, they may be for you (and the majority of modern people), but they can be mutually exclusive.

I happen to believe that porn can have highly detrimental effects, and I've seen it firsthand. I know the flash response is "don't you dare talk about my porns," but I do wish people would be a little more open minded when they see stuff like this. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't exist or isn't worth discussion, and definitely doesn't mean you should just laugh it off.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Love this tidbit

Have you ever wondered how pornographers that charge for their material stay in business when there’s so much porn available for free? As Wendy Seltzer—an attorney and fellow at Yale Law School—explained, the answer is actually pretty simple: once porn users get hooked, they’ll want more and more. “Seeing [free porn] just whets their appetite for more,” Seltzer said. “Once they get through what’s available for free, they’ll move into the paid services.” [1]

As if.

oh and that citation, totally out of context

Wendy Seltzer, an advocate for online civil liberties, says the Titan approach may point the way for other industries to enforce their copyrights. Ms. Seltzer, a staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a high-tech policy group that has fought the record industry over copyright issues, acknowledged that the amnesty offer ''sounds a little extortionate when they say it, perhaps.'' But she said it was ''a much more sensible approach'' than the music industry's litigation strategy. ''People always want this stuff,'' she said, referring to pornography. ''Seeing some of it just whets their appetite for more. Once they get through what's available for free, they'll move into the paid services.''

The Pornography Industry vs. Digital Pirates

 

[plasmawave]

Ah yet another thead where GAFers ignore the negative effects porn can have.

I watched the Shame. I'm prepared to take that risk.

 

[Mindlog]

Let's protest that sign by watching porn in front of it while masturbating. At least I hope somebody does that.

Well hrm.
I had never really considered masturbating out of solidarity.
Going to have to design some T-Shirts.

 

[PeskyToaster]

Just because people with no self-control abuse the shit out of everything we have that's nice doesn't mean we should make everyone else feel bad for enjoying the things those people can't without spiraling out of control.

 

[Airola]

I laugh every time I see stuff like this.

Back in the day I used to do freelance desktop and laptop repair. I go to a prominent anti-premarital sex, anti-Sex Ed, anti-masturbation, anti-everything preacher and once I got his computer booting again, I go to download AVG Free and run a virus scan, and he has a whole folder dedicated to "Saggy Tits".

Well, at least that shows he knows what he's talking about.

As if.

Actually there is a certain kind of "rush" in paying for pornography.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Porn saves marriage. Fuck this movement.

 

[TheSpoiler]

Masturbation and porn are not one in the same. I mean, they may be for you (and the majority of modern people), but they can be mutually exclusive.

I happen to believe that porn can have highly detrimental effects, and I've seen it firsthand. I know the flash response is "don't you dare talk about my porns," but I do wish people would be a little more open minded when they see stuff like this. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't exist or isn't worth discussion, and definitely doesn't mean you should just laugh it off.

Odd how my post is getting pulled out, but that's fine. If you want to talk serious, we can. But for me to buy into the fact that porn is some sort of love killer in and of itself, without the millions of x-factors that stand in the way (addictive personalities, etc), I need to see some statistics.

And real ones. Not dredged up from some random website.

I'm not saying your situation isn't valid or anything. I just fail to see how porn is the only one at play if there are issues.

 

[Mailbox]

Love this tidbit


As if.

Lol at get through what's free

 

[danm999]

Masturbation and porn are not one in the same. I mean, they may be for you (and the majority of modern people), but they can be mutually exclusive.

I happen to believe that porn can have highly detrimental effects, and I've seen it firsthand. I know the flash response is "don't you dare talk about my porns," but I do wish people would be a little more open minded when they see stuff like this. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't exist or isn't worth discussion, and definitely doesn't mean you should just laugh it off.

I think it's totally reasonable to say that there are elements of the production and consumption of porn that are problematic or even harmful in certain contexts, for certain people. I'm prepared to keep an open mind and listen to that pitch.

These billboards aren't making that pitch though, are they? They're saying that porn "kills love" which is something so nebulous and absurd that it doesn't deserve anything but mockery.

Asking people to be open minded about a close minded message is a losing proposition basically. I really don't believe all publicity is good publicity. If you sound foolish and destroy the credibility of your advocacy campaign out of the gate with vague hyperbole, what would you expect?

 

[qcf x2]

I think it's totally reasonable to say that there are elements of the production and consumption of porn that are problematic or even harmful in certain contexts, for certain people. I'm prepared to keep an open mind and listen to that pitch.

These billboards aren't making that pitch though, are they? They're saying that porn "kills love" which is something so nebulous and absurd that it doesn't deserve anything but mockery.

Asking people to be open minded about a close minded message is a losing proposition basically. I really don't believe all publicity is good publicity. If you sound foolish and destroy the credibility of your advocacy campaign out of the gate with vague hyperbole, what would you expect?

Isn't the point to get people to have discussion? We've all seen vile billboards, but I don't think these apply. I'm not saying I agree or disagree w/ what they're saying, because I haven't looked enough into it. But, for the same reason, I won't just laugh at it and assume they're talking about masturbation (the landing page of the site doesn't mention masturbation at all).

Odd how my post is getting pulled out, but that's fine. If you want to talk serious, we can. But for me to buy into the fact that porn is some sort of love killer in and of itself, without the millions of x-factors that stand in the way (addictive personalities, etc), I need to see some statistics.

And real ones. Not dredged up from some random website.

I'm not saying your situation isn't valid or anything. I just fail to see how porn is the only one at play if there are issues.

You were the first person who posted something I felt like replying to Mostly because I feel like you're making the leap (because of common association) that them saying porn is bad for love = them saying masturbation is bad for love. Again, at least on the landing page (I don't really care to dig any further), they definitely don't mention the m-word.

 

[danm999]

Isn't the point to get people to have discussion?

No. It also matters what the discussion is.

 

[TheSpoiler]

You were the first person who posted something I felt like replying to Mostly because I feel like you're making the leap (because of common association) that them saying porn is bad for love = them saying masturbation is bad for love. Again, at least on the landing page (I don't really care to dig any further), they definitely don't mention the m-word.

You are making a leap that I was saying that while it was all in jest. I assume nothing about what people do with their porno watching.

And actually, had you bothered to read the website you want to start dialogue with, you'd see they try and desperately make a connection between the two:

Scientists have been exploring the effects of porn on the body for years, wondering about its impact on everything from brain chemistry and libido to mental health issues like anxiety, depression, and motivation. The general consensus is that it’s not good. But porn affects more than just the body. Dr. Gottman’s own scientific research revealed that masturbating to pornographic images results in the secretion of oxytocin and vasopressin, hormones linked to attachment and emotional connection. This discovery points to perhaps the most significant factor about porn use: its impact on personal relationships.

http://www.fightthenewdrug.org/the-four-damaging-myths-of-porn/