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‘The Walking Dead’ – Season 5, Part 2 – S6 premieres Oct 11th

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Did Deanna not interview Glenn? I found that omission to be a bit weird.
I think it can be assumed that she did, Glen probably told her everything he told Rick... but the purpose of only showing her watching his video probably means she is believing him... most likely because of what Gabriel (
who is still on my hit list of people who must die in the most gruesome way possible no matter what
) said last episode
 

UberTag

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So I finally got around to watching the episode. That was some fuckery indeed. Loved it. Don't worry guys Carl's in there but yeah Rick really went off the deep end but Michonne took care of it. That needed to be done cause he was gonna go off the deep end. He was right though. I don't think the season finale's gonna top Empire with the fuckery they had but this will be amazing to watch. Fuck I just realized Wrestlemania's next weekend. Welp guess I'm watching that season finale later then.
Watch Walking Dead live with the rest of us.
All of the good matches will be over before the finale kicks off.
You can watch Sting, Roman and Taker win their matches later on if they're any decent.
 

Verger

Banned
As much as I have enjoyed the past few episodes, it sadly does not make up for what a clusterfuck this Season has been. I know many believe that this Season has been better than the previous 2 and perhaps that is true in a way, but there is still too much crap in the writing.

I mean, we can pretty much write off the entire first half of this Season as a complete waste. Wandering around aimlessly getting nowhere, all the Villains that come are dispatched just as quickly before any character development can be done (Gareth), or any development is quickly wasted before it can be utilized effectively (Dawn). The entire Hospital/Beth arc in retrospect is now one giant waste of time and pretty much could be called filler. Her experiences at the Hospital are useless as she got herself killed, and the person she died for (Noah) now has bit the bullet as well. Dawn could have been a great villain in hindsight as I figured her to be kind of like a true Evil Shane (former cop now crazy), but the writers decided to off her and Beth in the stupidest way imaginable just for "shock".

Then there is poor Bob, who died I believe saving Gabriel, who has now revealed himself to be purely insane and demented. Speaking of which, does anyone know exactly what event spurred this change in tempo for the character? I know he was supposed to be unhinged since the beginning, but his demeanor and manner of speech was completely in crazy land the previous episode, a far cry from his somewhat more composed self, and I totally have no idea what exactly was supposed to be the "triggering event" to have made him completely go off the deep end.

And we cannot forget Tyreese, who valiantly died staving off a ton of walkers to.....oh right...he got blindsided by Noah's evil twin stealth zombie and died for...nothing (Noah is dead now again too). While his actual death sequence was great, the way he died was just one of the most embarrassing things you'd think the writers would not have to rely upon (stealth zombies) and yet clearly keep coming back to as an insult to the viewer's intelligence.

And now here we are in this situation. The writers have zero subtlety on telegraphing how they want the story to go. The previous episode had the obvious setup of sowing doubt in Deanna's head with Gabriels psychotic warning to her, and then caps it off with the death of her son to ensure she'd heed his words (along with the treacherous Nicholas who Glenn should have off'd but for some reason keeps alive). Maggie's absence this episode is very odd considering she overheard Gabriel's warnings and is supposed to be Deanna's assistant. But I guess the writers are saving that for next week.

Sasha's craziness is only matched by Gabriel's at this point and I wouldn't be surprised if maybe the two kill each other.

So yeah, even if this Season has been "better". there's still a mountain of shit that the writers are pushing out that makes the show far less than it could be. Before anyone suggests I do not enjoy the show. I find it very entertaining, but that doesn't mean I can abide by some of the boneheaded writing decisions and amateur narration being pulled off.
 
I think it can be assumed that she did, Glen probably told her everything he told Rick... but the purpose of only showing her watching his video probably means she is believing him... most likely because of what Gabriel (
who is still on my hit list of people who must die in the most gruesome way possible no matter what
) said last episode

Not sure what you're trying to say but you think Deanna believed her people? I think she's watching Nicholas interview because she knew he was lying.
 

BBboy20

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Coach (L4D2) = Chad Coleman? What??
A lot of TV actors in L4D2.

i like the song a lot, but it totally did not match up with the visuals at all. felt very forced
Considering we are not suppose to care for Aiden, I think it was weird on purpose.

Oh shit, the new Mission Impossible looks dope. Also, Lauryn Hill.
I suppose technically Fugees?

Wait is that Rosita with Michonne and Sasha? I thought it was Tara?
Holy crap, I didn't realize that was her! Must be the hat.

Carl trying for the cool guy jacket.
It does look cool.
 

CorvoSol

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I actually kinda like aggro Sasha. Like she has a deathwish, yeah, but I'm glad that somebody in the walking dead universe finally realized that there are a finite number of zombies and they all suck compared to a decently armed human being. Bout fuckin time someone took the fight to them.
 

ElTopo

Banned
That twist definitely didn't happen in the comic. I think I still know how this season is going to end

As they're dealing with Rick, walkers get in, shit hits the fan, and Rick restores order.

Some characters definitely need to die.
 

Sanctuary

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Just finished watching last night's episode, and holy shit. I know it's not exactly the same, but is Rick slowly becoming the next Governor?
 

raindoc

Member
That twist definitely didn't happen in the comic. I think I still know how this season is going to end

As they're dealing with Rick, walkers get in, shit hits the fan, and Rick restores order.

Some characters definitely need to die.
I like the way things develop, but the way Rick lost it was a bit too much IMHO.

Speculation based on comic book spoilers and next ep preview:
I always speculated that this season's going to end with the Herd attacking, but considering Rick is getting kicked out because of his stance on the human threat and the fresh "W" zombies, I'm now expecting the Wolves to attack. And I really, really, really hope Morgan catches up with Riggs.
 

ElTopo

Banned
I like the way things develop, but the way Rick lost it was a bit too much IMHO.

Speculation based on comic book spoilers and next ep preview:
I always speculated that this season's going to end with the Herd attacking, but considering Rick is getting kicked out because of his stance on the human threat and the fresh "W" zombies, I'm now expecting the Wolves to attack. And I really, really, really hope Morgan catches up with Riggs.

More comic spoilers:

By "Wolves" I assume you mean Negan's men. It;'d be a nice way to end the season even though it would be a little rushed.
 
I got some serious Joker vibes! Great acting.
that was so good

Anyway Rick probably went into crazy mode a little too soon but whatever. He is the only person offering solutions. That breaking bad advice applies to the Apocalypse more than anything. No half measures. When you have a problem you have to deal with it not let it linger or let it come back and bite you. Also now his own people are getting killed because the alexandrians are weak.

I actually kinda like aggro Sasha. Like she has a deathwish, yeah, but I'm glad that somebody in the walking dead universe finally realized that there are a finite number of zombies and they all suck compared to a decently armed human being. Bout fuckin time someone took the fight to them.
the problem is she may get killed and it won't be by a walker, also she's wasting ammo which again is needed for threats other than walkers.
 

raindoc

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More comic spoilers:

By "Wolves" I assume you mean Negan's men. It;'d be a nice way to end the season even though it would be a little rushed.

nope.
it's possible, but I think the Wolves are the Scavengers from the comic book, with a little backstory added to make the first & final confrontation more interesting.
 

ElTopo

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nope.
it's possible, but I think the Wolves are the Scavengers from the comic book, with a little backstory added to make the first & final confrontation more interesting.

More comic spoilers:

Been a while since I read the comic. I got up to issue 110 or 115 or something like that. Before they take down Negan and Negan shows Carl around his community.
 

CorvoSol

Member
the problem is she may get killed and it won't be by a walker, also she's wasting ammo which again is needed for threats other than walkers.

I'll give you ammo and that she's taking risks, but I'll take that over carelessly letting walkers pile up next to a chain link fence or twiddlin' thumbs about killing the governor any day.
 

BBboy20

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To be fair, the group was mostly using melee and conserving ammo while on the road. I assume Alexandria has a pretty big stockpile of ammo since they have an entire armory
They still seem to use guns as a first resort very often.

Also, anybody noticed that one Walker straight-up bashed Sasha behind her but in the next shot, Sasha was facing the Walker?
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Both Sasha and Michoone are so fucking annoying. They act like they are the only one going through shit. Same with the other black dude, glad he died random death.

Man Jesse is hot, Rick wants to bang that.
 

Corpsepyre

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Coral and Rick After Pussy: The Season

Well, kinda. Decent episode. Lets see what the finale brings. Shit needs to hit the fan bigtime. It must.
 

Cartoons

Banned
It's been a fantastic second half of the Season, can't wait for next episode. Part of me wants to look at all these comic spoilers everyone's talking about... the temptation is strong. But nope, going to go in blind! I hope it's quite a thrilling finale at least.
 

Kozak

Banned
I was kinda hoping that shit hit the fan and we had a cleaning out of the original tenants at the end of the ep haha
 
We can only hope. She's acting like a total idiot right now, as if she's the only who's lost people. Stop your pouting and start being a real survivor.
Man, I'd hate for you to be my therapist in the post apocalypse. She's been a "real survivor" for three seasons now. "Grieving and suffering from PTSD" doesnt equal pouting; I'd imagine it's a pretty realistic response when you don't have to be on edge 24/7 and there's time for your loss to sink in and fester.
Perhaps it's coping mechanic. Being out there, fighting, killing, keeps her mind occupied and she doesnt have to think about the loss of Tyresse and Bob
 

Drazgul

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Man, I'd hate for you to be my therapist in the post apocaylpse. She's been a "real survivor" for three seasons now. "Grieving and suffering from PTSD" doesnt equal pouting; I'd imagine it's a pretty realistic response when you don't have to be on edge 24/7 and there's time for your loss to sink in and fester.

A group is only as strong as its weakest link; she's lucky that they're (for now) safe inside Alexandria because outside she'd just be a liability. Like was shown already when she broke the line and compromised everyone's safety when the group was killing the herd by the bridge.

You don't have the luxury of grieving and PTSD in a zombie apocalypse.
 

strafer

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Hmm, I think that's the guy who was on One Tree Hill.

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A group is only as strong as its weakest link; she's lucky that they're (for now) safe inside Alexandria because outside she'd just be a liability. Like was shown already when she broke the line and compromised everyone's safety when the group was killing the herd by the bridge.

You don't have the luxury of grieving and PTSD in a zombie apocalypse.
She had lost her brother a few days prior. Of course she's going to be irrational, not thinking straight, etc.

And Alexandria only made it worst. When you find yourself in relative safety and normalcy, you have the luxury to grieve. And that luxury is probably a terrifying thing
 

Zaph

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Considering the size of Alexandria, the clueless residents, the lack of a lookout, the wall supports on the outside - and the fact it's still here - I can't help but wonder are they are the luckiest motherfuckers on the planet to have survived so long relatively drama-free, or are Rick & Co the unluckiest motherfuckers to have run into so much trouble?
 

Effect

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Man, I'd hate for you to be my therapist in the post apocalypse. She's been a "real survivor" for three seasons now. "Grieving and suffering from PTSD" doesnt equal pouting; I'd imagine it's a pretty realistic response when you don't have to be on edge 24/7 and there's time for your loss to sink in and fester.
Perhaps it's coping mechanic. Being out there, fighting, killing, keeps her mind occupied and she doesnt have to think about the loss of Tyresse and Bob

Now Noah after last night. She regrets what she said to him before they ended up Alexandria now that he's dead as well. I'm glad they revisited that. I'm also glad when Sasha tried to push Michonne and Rosita away they didn't leave and stayed and that's what she needs right now. Not to be left alone and to have that forced on her.

You don't have the luxury of grieving and PTSD in a zombie apocalypse.

Grief and PTSD doesn't give a damn what your situation is though. She's human not a robot. These characters should be going through these issues after all they've been through. Let's not forget it's been weeks or months for us. Sasha lost Bob and Tyreese within a week or two of each other. Then they've been in Alex for a few weeks. It's only been what a month or two for the characters at the most? Everything is and should still feel raw for her.

The show is a character drama set in the zomibe apocalypse. Let the characters go through some drama and character development.
 
Considering the size of Alexandria, the clueless residents, the lack of a lookout, the wall supports on the outside - and the fact it's still here - I can't help but wonder are they are the luckiest motherfuckers on the planet to have survived so long relatively drama-free, or are Rick & Co the unluckiest motherfuckers to have run into so much trouble?
Probably the latter

- Find CDC, just as the doctor there snaps and blows the place up
- Draws the attention of a massive herd, destroying what had been relative peace and safety at Hershel's farm
- Find a prison that happens to be in walking distance of a violent madman and his town
- Have a run-in with cannibals

Yeah, they're the unluckiest motherfuckers in post apocalyptic America.
 

Razmos

Member
I swear to god if Tara dies because Nick wanted to get into Jessie's pants. Like seriously Rick was an absolute idiot in this episode.

I'm glad Michonne knocked him the fuck out.

Anyway, people are saying that the 3rd mystery cast member on the Talking Dead is someone who's going to die, but that might not be the case. It could be the return of Morgan.
 

takriel

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I swear to god if Tara dies because Nick wanted to get into Jessie's pants. Like seriously Rick was an absolute idiot in this episode.

I'm glad Michonne knocked him the fuck out.

Anyway, people are saying that the 3rd mystery cast member on the Talking Dead is someone who's going to die, but that might not be the case. It could be the return of Morgan.
Who's Tara again?

Edit: nvm, googled

Now why would she die because of that?
 

Drazgul

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Anyway, people are saying that the 3rd mystery cast member on the Talking Dead is someone who's going to die, but that might not be the case. It could be the return of Morgan.

Man if Morgan ever makes a return, he'll probably be the badassest of all badasses. Guy's been soloing this whole time, that's a shitload of level-ups from all the xp.

Might also be a bit crazy too, though. :lol
 

Razmos

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Who's Tara again?

Edit: nvm, googled
Part of the Governor's second group, went along to the prison and abandoned them when they beheaded Hershel. Glenn rescued her and they traveled to Terminus together for half a season. She's a lesbian. Eugene hit on her once.

Got injured in the explosion in the last episode and is being treated by Pete, hence why Rick is going to get her killed, with no surgeon she is probably going to die, they said as much in the episode. They can't deal with Pete right now because Tara's life is hanging by a thread.

Rick ignored that anyway and put Jessie before the life of one of his own.
 

poppabk

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Considering the size of Alexandria, the clueless residents, the lack of a lookout, the wall supports on the outside - and the fact it's still here - I can't help but wonder are they are the luckiest motherfuckers on the planet to have survived so long relatively drama-free, or are Rick & Co the unluckiest motherfuckers to have run into so much trouble?
Yeah I wish they would give a bit more back story on alexandria and how it has survived. They mentioned losing people, but other than the four lost on scavenging they didn't really go any further with it.
 

mm04

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Considering the size of Alexandria, the clueless residents, the lack of a lookout, the wall supports on the outside - and the fact it's still here - I can't help but wonder are they are the luckiest motherfuckers on the planet to have survived so long relatively drama-free, or are Rick & Co the unluckiest motherfuckers to have run into so much trouble?

Yeah, lucky is right. Wait till one of those elderly folks passes away in the middle of the night. That town is up shit creek when that happens.
 

Skab

Member
You know, I kind of think Morgan is going to show up at the end of the finale and sort of be the one to help bring Rick back from the crazy. Sort of like Hershel was before.
 

Razmos

Member
Another reason why Rick pissed me off in this episode:

Jessie: Would you do this for anyone else?
~Long ass pause, all while i'm thinking "of course he would, he's a cop"~
Rick: No

???

The fuck. Why is Rick's character being thrown out of the window for a forced romance plot?

He's ruining the chances of himself, his family and his group, AND risking Tara's life all because he wants to get his dick wet, it's infuriating and completely out of character.
 
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