I really want a scene in the finale that really addresses this and he's called out on it. Rick's been about making decisions that are in the best interest and safety of the group. However he's been lusting (that's really what it is since they haven't been having any heart to heart talks or spending a lot of time together) after Jesse that he's tossed that away and doesn't even see it. Hopefully that rock to the head by Michonne will give him time to examine his situation and what's been doing.
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The Walking Dead Season 5, Part 2 S6 premieres Oct 11th
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I really want a scene in the finale that really addresses this and he's called out on it. Rick's been about making decisions that are in the best interest and safety of the group. However he's been lusting (that's really what it is since they haven't been having any heart to heart talks or spending a lot of time together) after Jesse that he's tossed that away and doesn't even see it. Hopefully that rock to the head by Michonne will give him time to examine his situation and what's been doing.
Tara - alive
Aiden - nothing to bury
Noah - nothing to bury
I really have no idea who is in those graves.
They are not just memorials because they have the loose dirt to imply they dug graves.
-Pyromaniac-
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Rick can do whatever he wants. No one on the show has to deal with the burden that he does. No one has that much weight on their shoulders. They all owe him their lives and when someone dies on his watch he takes the brunt of it.
People like to doubt him sometimes, take him for granted sometimes, or straight up think he is crazy sometimes. But when shit hits the fan everyone is more than happy to lean on him to keep things together. He is obviously doing a great job of it considering how far they've come and that a lot of them are still alive.
I'm sure someone will call him out and he will be apologetic about his behaviour but again, as soon as shit hits the fan they're all gonna beg for crazy rick to get the job done.
Well he's directly accountable here, and he's acting so stupidly and irrationally that even Michonne had to take a stand against him (for the second time this season I might add)
-Pyromaniac-
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I know he is acting a little bit crazy. And I say a little bit because he isn't in the wrong to fuck pete up. But again I'm just saying he deserves to be as loco as he wants to be and everyone else can deal with it or walk. I don't think Michonne was taking some righteous stance. She was just ending the fight.
Maybe they exile people by burying them alive?
Beth isn't black either.
They really had me going with Sasha. Michonne was like "Damn, if she goes i'm next" so she decided to delay that for a bit.
Even if Rick is right he was being really dumb with his big "you're gonna throw ME out? But I'm in charge now!" rant. If it came down to them actually having to take control of the town it wasn't going to happen with him randomly pulling out a gun in a crowd and claiming he's the only one who knows what was up. Way to overplay your hand, dude. Michonne did what she had to do and shut him down.
Leithkorias
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Well two episodes ago when Glenn punched aiden, Deanna said thank you to Glenn then sent him away and said she had to talk to aiden and nicholas about what happened. Seemed strange to me that she only wanted their account of the events of that day and now it looks like she may have done it again...
Yellowflashdude
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Rick was so stupid in this episode.
Rabbi_Vole
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I got the impression "exile" is their code name for "execute."
Sectorseven
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Is that wife beater guy also a drunk? Every time he's on screen he looks like he's had a few. In which case, how good a surgeon can he be if he's always half in the bag?
It pretty much is, seeing as how unprepared for the outside world the people in Alexandria are. Exiling is just more convenient for the rest of them since they don't have to get their hands dirty.
Rabbi_Vole
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TWD: Civil War
Team Rick:
Carol
Carl
Guy from pilot episode
Team Michonne:
Glenn
Maggie
Herschel's ghost
Abraham
Eugene
Tara
Latina
Darryl
Judith
Team Rick:
Carol
Carl
Guy from pilot episode
Team Michonne:
Glenn
Maggie
Herschel's ghost
Abraham
Eugene
Tara
Latina
Darryl
Judith
Napoleonthechimp
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They've had drama. The fact that they are so adamantly in favour of exile over death should tell you that maybe, just maybe, they've had their share of it.
But they're also lucky they haven't encountered anyone truly diabolical just yet.
Functioning alcoholic
More_Badass
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I'm half expecting Cillian Murphy to pop up
But yeah for the average Alexandrian, exile probably is death.
Napoleonthechimp
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The whole exile thing is something they never really followed through with in the comics. The TV show could definitely do a better job with it.
Also: Hey Daryl, stay the fuck away from the psycho group that tied that woman to a tree. Something tells me they may not be suitable for Alexandria.
Also: Hey Daryl, stay the fuck away from the psycho group that tied that woman to a tree. Something tells me they may not be suitable for Alexandria.
blazenumb1
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I really liked how they followed the comics for the confrontation with Rick and Pete. From Rick throwing Pete out a window, pulling the gun out when he was asked to stop and even Michonne hitting him.
My hopes for the finale are,
Comic Spoiler,
Also hope the Wolves or
make an appearance and Rick and Co have to save the town, and he is appointed the leader.
Also hope Morgan makes an appearance and is pivotal in saving the town.
My hopes for the finale are,
Comic Spoiler,
Pete tries to kill Rick and ends up killing Deanna(Regina in the comics) and Rick is forced to kill him. While this is going on they are attacked by the herd.
(guessing they could be the scavengers from the comics)
Also hope Morgan makes an appearance and is pivotal in saving the town.
Pai Pai Master
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What rick said wasn't crazy but he came off like a raving lunatic with how he said it. He may have been pumped up with adrenaline having just fought for his life but he made everything much more difficult for his people when he pulled his gun at innocent people and yelled at them.
He was right, but he was crazy for taking matters into his own hands in the way he did.
I honestly don't see how anyone can say he wasn't crazy, when he was covered in blood, wildly gesticulating and pointing his gun at the people he was supposed to be protecting (and was more interested in Jessie than he was with his actual job)
I doubt they would hint at his return just to kill him off screen like that, unless scheduling/casting conflicts came up and they had to scrap his character at the last minute.
Still a damn convincing theory though.
Interceptor
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Actually he wasn't. Tara has already been treated and a drunken, violent surgent is a bigger liability than he is a help.
He likes Jessie, that was obvious from the very second they met. He needs her to say "yes" in order to save her. She wouldnt agree if he just said that she wasn't special, that he would do this for everyone. She had to choose a new partner, someone to protect her. Not some nice police guy with high moral values.
Michone actually agrees with Rick. But she was calm and knew the sitiation was not right to escalate even further. But it will. She just bought them time to prepare.
Napoleonthechimp
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Deanna already knows that they need to change how things are done which is why she brought Rick and the group into the community.
Rick is simply undermining their chances at staying.
Rick is simply undermining their chances at staying.
blazenumb1
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Well said, couldn't agree more.
I like how Rick's group has been in Alexandria for like maybe a week and he's on the ground with blood on his face screaming like a lunatic while Deanna is crazy against trusting people she all but hand selected to come to her community and perform some nebulous task.
Goddamn, I can't decide what pisses me off more: the fact that this show is YET AGAIN going down the fucking boring ass plot of "ALL CIVILIZATIONS ARE DEATH TRAPS AND ONLY HUNTING UNTIL THE INFINITE HORDE OF GRENADE WIELDING MINIBOSS NINJA ZOMBIES KILLS YOU IN A MID SEASON FINALE IS THE RIGHTEOUS WAY TO LIVE" Seriously FUCK the writer who had the kids say "We were MEANT to be like this. It's THEIR world." They're fucking ROTTING. In five years tops the world's population of zombies will be pathetically small. There simply isn't that big of a supply of fresh bodies to repopulate the zombies but noooooobody seems to realize their main enemies will literally fall apart when exposed to enough rain.
Or am I more irritated that a woman who was good enough at politics to get herself into an elected position sucks so fucking bad at playing politics 101. Anarchy is like day 1 education shit, Deanna. You seem to have no fucking plan for Rick here. He's a charismatic, violent warlord and you've invited him in. You need to make concessions to your newly established warrior class or you face the exact revolt you should've been expecting well before Rick warned you it would come.
Like I'm beginning to think that in the world of The Walking Dead we're meant to believe that there are literally no human beings left smart enough to build civilization when faced with predators infinitely less menacing than the average wolf.
Goddamn, I can't decide what pisses me off more: the fact that this show is YET AGAIN going down the fucking boring ass plot of "ALL CIVILIZATIONS ARE DEATH TRAPS AND ONLY HUNTING UNTIL THE INFINITE HORDE OF GRENADE WIELDING MINIBOSS NINJA ZOMBIES KILLS YOU IN A MID SEASON FINALE IS THE RIGHTEOUS WAY TO LIVE" Seriously FUCK the writer who had the kids say "We were MEANT to be like this. It's THEIR world." They're fucking ROTTING. In five years tops the world's population of zombies will be pathetically small. There simply isn't that big of a supply of fresh bodies to repopulate the zombies but noooooobody seems to realize their main enemies will literally fall apart when exposed to enough rain.
Or am I more irritated that a woman who was good enough at politics to get herself into an elected position sucks so fucking bad at playing politics 101. Anarchy is like day 1 education shit, Deanna. You seem to have no fucking plan for Rick here. He's a charismatic, violent warlord and you've invited him in. You need to make concessions to your newly established warrior class or you face the exact revolt you should've been expecting well before Rick warned you it would come.
Like I'm beginning to think that in the world of The Walking Dead we're meant to believe that there are literally no human beings left smart enough to build civilization when faced with predators infinitely less menacing than the average wolf.
Nice to see psycho Rick show up for an episode. While all his actions are poorly thought out, dude is fucking right about Alexandria. The whole town doesn't know shit about how to survive and are prone to leaving people behind for the greater good, even when there are better options than just running away. I am legitimately surprised this town hadn't caved in months before and are lucky they did get walls up when they did.
Rick's issue this episode is he needs to slow his roll. He's craving a normal life and the possibility of a more stable relationship, but he let's that take over ending with Rick making a ton of bad decisions.
I hope Sasha survives whatever is coming up next, because with a little tweaking, she could be a really really strong character and a big part of their survival in future arcs. She just needs a better way to deal with her PTSD outside of hunting zombies and nearly getting killed.
Looking forward to the finale and how far they do go with the current story. Also hoping to finally getting a peek at our main man (or woman) "W".
Rick's issue this episode is he needs to slow his roll. He's craving a normal life and the possibility of a more stable relationship, but he let's that take over ending with Rick making a ton of bad decisions.
I hope Sasha survives whatever is coming up next, because with a little tweaking, she could be a really really strong character and a big part of their survival in future arcs. She just needs a better way to deal with her PTSD outside of hunting zombies and nearly getting killed.
Looking forward to the finale and how far they do go with the current story. Also hoping to finally getting a peek at our main man (or woman) "W".
I don't think Rick was in the mindset at that moment to pragmatically lie about his reasons for what he was doing. He might be getting encouraged by his desire to upend the current status quo of the town due to the recent deaths, but I read that "no" as being entirely honest. It's a change in his character from doing the right, if extreme, thing for his group to going off the deep end for his own reasons even if it endangers the rest of the group's place in the town.
Dunedain_Ranger
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All this talk about where's Gabriel or Eugene my buddy at worked pointed out where the hell is Judith the Alexandria day care ?
More_Badass
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I just realized that would make the walls really easy to push over/knock down
Napoleonthechimp
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Yeah, but here's the thing... Deanna let the group in precisely because she already knew Alexandria's weaknesses. Rick going batshit only puts him and his group at risk of exile.
Wasn't there a shot of Carol looking at a baby monitor?
backflip10019
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Being covered in blood certainly didn't help Rick's appeal to the group. Glad Michonne knocked him out -- probably would've only dug him and his crew in a deeper hole.
Dunedain_Ranger
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May have not seen that
Interceptor
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Of course the No was honest. A yes would have been a polite lie a normal cop in a normal society would say. She wanted and needed to hear the truth. The no was pretty obvious and not out of character.
He was then forced to act quicker than he had anticipated and it almost got out of hand. But Michone saved him. He bought them time to prepare.
Saying Rick was out of character or even ruined just shows you didnt really paid attention you him or Jessie.
Dayum that episode! Can't wait to see the season finale.
Oh and people are speculating that Morgan got killed by the Wolves and they will reveal it in the season finale. Rick and Co. about to f up the Wolves!
RIP Morgan
That'd be so lame.
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