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‘Pirates of the Caribbean’ Reboot Moving Forward With A Female Lead
The Scrivener
Member
Piratette of the Caribbean: Flick the 'Bean.
Cumming to cinemas summer 2020... no, wait...
Cumming to cinemas summer 2020... no, wait...
Potato Chip PRO
Member
How about a live action of Atlantis the Lost Empire or Treasure Planet first?
abstract alien
Member
The stupidity of this movement shows that instead of women being capable of anything, it demonstrates that women can't do anything until men lay the groundwork for them to follow. It's pretty counterproductive, but do your thing I guess.
and 3 others
Banned
Couldn't have said it better.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
did pirates smoke crack?
MacReady13
Member
There already is a "Pirates" female led film. I know I've definitely seen certain parts of it many times...!
Doom85
Gold Member
Man, everyone here praising Depp, but not a single word of praise for Geoffrey Rush as Barbossa? Dude was awesome in the role. In fact, the only real enjoyable scenes in 4 for me were the ones with him and Depp together (as the rest of the characters Depp interacted with just weren't interesting enough to make me care. It wasn't just that Jack Sparrow works better as the 2nd or 3rd main focus, but that virtually everyone else in 4 just wasn't that engaging to me).
It was cool hearing that for 2 they did not tell the cast he would be appearing in the final scene. So those looks of shock on the faces of Bloom, Knightley, and the others were legit.
It was cool hearing that for 2 they did not tell the cast he would be appearing in the final scene. So those looks of shock on the faces of Bloom, Knightley, and the others were legit.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
I think Disney needs a reboot.
I'm open minded about this. Maybe a new actress is what is needed to bring life back to this franchise.
Do you feel that the actors were the problem with the later Pirates films? Not the scripts, the overblown budgets, the reliance on CGI, or anything like that? What would casting an actress do to correct that? I just feel like the Bruckheimer machine is long been broken with this series, no amount of casting is gonna fix it.
Belmonte
Member
newtypepilot
Member
so is this gonna be based on that redhead pirate from the ride, which they inserted to replace the girls getting auctioned off because they didn't want to offend the SJWs?
zero expectation this will be good, since this is disney and all they care is about going woke. If they really want to do a fresh take, make it R rated.
zero expectation this will be good, since this is disney and all they care is about going woke. If they really want to do a fresh take, make it R rated.
TaySan
Banned
Depp made the original trilogy for me, but to be fair i haven't seen the latter movies.
Saber
Member
What makes Caribean special is the story/script. The other part is Depp himself.
No amount of female lead gonna save the film if its a corny, lamish and borefest to watch. Although I like the idea of re-using that other girl from the PoC 4. I think she has what it takes for the movie.
Totally right. He, pretty much like Depp, are the very core of pirates: you can't trust them, easy to trick you and do whatever it takes to archieve their goals. Even siding with an enemy.
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Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
This actually isn't a bad idea.
haxan7
Banned
Disney is a hotbed of intersectionality, currently. But that doesn’t mean it’s built into their brand, it just means there are people who’ve ascended the ranks behind the scenes who are pushing for that.
All it will take are a couple box office flops to change the company’s direction. We don’t really need to do anything to make that happen.
All it will take are a couple box office flops to change the company’s direction. We don’t really need to do anything to make that happen.
Cleared_Hot
Member
Its like rebooting iron man
King of Foxes
Banned
Of course disney will do it and of course they will lose money and in 6 months they will do another female lead swap out with some previously male role.
its about winning an ideological culture war not making money
its about winning an ideological culture war not making money
LegendOfKage
Member
I was thinking the same thing, and from what I can remember, that is not a good movie. The Long Kiss Goodnight (her other action movie) was great, though.
Doom85
Gold Member
The 2nd film has Elizabeth pretty much straight up murder Jack. Yeah, it was sorta out of necessity, but IIRC in the 3rd one she gets properly chewed out for it.
And if the argument is "well, modern Disney won't do it", uh Zootopia only came out four years ago and had its female lead get super called out on her discriminatory views at the end of the 2nd act and she has to apologize a while later. And in terms of goody female leads, the exact same year Finding Dory came out and Dory was her usual lovable goofy self.
Hari Seldon
Member
National Treasure 3 being rumored to be in the works is a much bigger deal than another Pirates movie to me.
Swauny Jones
Member
This is going to bomb like the all female cast of ghostbusters LOL
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Cool, I'd watch it.
Shizumapower
Member
Charlies' Angels reboot.
Digging around. Life of the Party was a Back to School remake?? How dare they! (I will never watch it.)
19 Movie Reboots With Gender-Swapped Leads, From 'His Girl Friday' to 'American Pie' (Photos)
Helen Mirren, Queen Latifah and Lily Tomlin have all taken over parts originally played by men
www.thewrap.com
"Life of the Party" (2018) Critics couldn’t help but notice a striking similarity between Melissa McCarthy in “Life of the Party” and Rodney Dangerfield in “Back to School.” Both films are raunchy comedies about middle-aged parents living it up on campus as they enroll back into college, but McCarthy and director Ben Falcone’s screenplay is credited as an original story.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
I agree 10000000%. Sparrow and Barbossa saved 4, (which shouldn't have needed saving if they did Blackbeard right...)
Grinchy
Banned
And she better not be fucking attractive!! That would really offend WOUs. (Women of ugliness)
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
As a MOU, I am offended by WOU being offended by attractive women
Grinchy
Banned
As a MONCAAL (man of no color and average looks), I have no opinion on the subject because I'm listening to all WOU and MOU viewpoints and not speaking so as to facilitate my education on the matter.
sol_bad
Member
And you don't think they discussed the leads genitals to begin with in the original film?
What is it with people?
If it's a Male lead, genitals aren't discussed.
If it's a female lead, genitals were the first thing discussed.
Weird way of thinking.
Fuz
Banned
I don't get it. Who's riding the redhead?
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
It can work but I doubt it will. Most of these writers are not good enough so they attempt to elevate women at the expense of men in the story. This usually leads to a story that neither men or women want to see.
PanzerAzel
Member
Depp IS the reason I’m even bothered to watch a pirates film. If another actor, male or female, can create another lead as compelling and entertaining as Depp accomplished without shamelessly aping his characterization then sure, I’m game.
But I doubt it’s possible. This is a franchise that should be laid to rest, frankly.
But I doubt it’s possible. This is a franchise that should be laid to rest, frankly.
Noboru Wataya
Banned
I think this is the right move, I was tired of Depp by the last few films, he just became more and more of a spoof of himself. His character got boring and cliche very quickly.
cormack12
Gold Member
They missed their chance to do this properly, the groundwork was there with Elizabeth and Will - and even Barbossa to an extent, but they committed to making it POTC: Jack Sparrow just like 007: James Bond. This will go down like a lead balloon. I don't think the women in Pirates have been well cast. Kiera Knightley, Penelope Cruz and Kaya Scodelario all underwhelmed. I liked Karen Gillan in Jumanji but she doesn't have the presence to carry a film like this.
They could probably wrangle a Pirates of the 'new region' and recast it that way, but I think using POTC is a big mistake. It's like the Bourne Legacy. It just won't work.
They could probably wrangle a Pirates of the 'new region' and recast it that way, but I think using POTC is a big mistake. It's like the Bourne Legacy. It just won't work.
Dirk Benedict
Member
Yes. It IS time to STOP!
Kite
Member
To me it almost seems unfair to whoever is the female lead replacing Depp, it's inevitable that they're going to be compared instead of having a chance to succeed or fail on her own. This better be a legendary performance or it'll be seen as a downgrade. It's like trying to be the replacement for Michael Jordan or Tom Brady.. good luck, gonna need it.
Texas Pride
Banned
I was going to say that if you wanna come full circle and fuck Depp properly Amber Heard is definitely the way to go.
VulcanRaven
Member
Why? Because they want to reboot the series or because of the female lead?
