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007 Legends |OT| This never happened to the other guys..
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Metal Gear?!
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Felix is black in the new Bond movies but white in this game which is weird.
I NEED SCISSORS
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My favorite Bond game as well as EON. Has held up so much better than GoldenEye imo.
One i'd like to try is From Russia With Love - I really miss the days of game development where a company would just say fuck it and make something that no one asked for, but was awesome all the same.
Fox Mulder
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He was white in every movie before casino royale, except for never say never again.
Goldeneye has kind of aged badly due to the graphical era it was in and the n64's controller scheme. It's just hard to go back to now. Anything on the ps2 should hold up better along with the advances in the genre.
I also need to go back and play From Russia with Love, as I only played it a bit after hearing old man Connery try to play Bond again. I was also down on EA Bond games after they followed up EoN with Goldeneye whatever.
I've never played Everything or Nothing but looked at a few videos (bad quality) but it being a third person shooter makes it look like a lot fun. Certainly allows for the gameplay to try and replicate the action that could be in films. Come to think of it I don't think I played the Cube games but remember somewhat watching friends play them. I remember seeing video of 007 Blood Stone but word at the time was that it wasn't very good. I also wasn't into buying non-Wii games at the time. I'd certainly be up for a James Bond game that is 3rd person. I'm now thinking it could have been judged unfairly simply because it wasn't a pure shooter and replicating Goldeneye 007 since the Wii version had just come out. Then again I haven't played it could be broken in some way not shown in videos.
As much as I love Goldeneye 007 old and new version Bond should be in 3rd person. I feel strongly about this now after watching more video of the above games and having played the Uncharted series (well 1 and 2) and even Batman: Arkham Asylum. The genre is just as popular as the FPS genre. No reason to just focus on making it a first person shooter. Not against it but mix it up a bit. Activision actually should try to build up a third person shooter brand. FPS Bond games will just get buried by Call of Duty even if they are good.
As much as I love Goldeneye 007 old and new version Bond should be in 3rd person. I feel strongly about this now after watching more video of the above games and having played the Uncharted series (well 1 and 2) and even Batman: Arkham Asylum. The genre is just as popular as the FPS genre. No reason to just focus on making it a first person shooter. Not against it but mix it up a bit. Activision actually should try to build up a third person shooter brand. FPS Bond games will just get buried by Call of Duty even if they are good.
Since Agent Under Fire talk has come up, has anyone else had any trouble playing the Gamecube version on the Wii?
When I played it the cinema scenes would only play audio (and have a black screen). The game itself would play fine. I tried several different game discs and it happened on all of them.
When I played it the cinema scenes would only play audio (and have a black screen). The game itself would play fine. I tried several different game discs and it happened on all of them.
I'm through License to Kill now.
It doesn't look like it will be a long game.
It has some problems
Some of the voice acting is flat. It ruins iconic scenes in OHMSS and Goldfinger.
Craig just sounds like he phoned it in.
There's really not much of a story at the moment.. and they even drop you in the middle of the movie.. assuming you know certain things
And.. really.. the hand to hand segments.. are just awful. There's no real strategy to them
It doesn't look like it will be a long game.
It has some problems
Some of the voice acting is flat. It ruins iconic scenes in OHMSS and Goldfinger.
Craig just sounds like he phoned it in.
There's really not much of a story at the moment.. and they even drop you in the middle of the movie.. assuming you know certain things
And.. really.. the hand to hand segments.. are just awful. There's no real strategy to them
The Elite
BOSS
How exactly have they tied the story of all the games together? That's what I want to know.
They don't
Which is why I said it has no story.
Bond gets shot (I believe start of Skyfall) and falls into the water. The entire game seems to function as a flashback. But they don't even tie it in w/ transition from movie to movie at times.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
As a Bond fan, I'd be remiss if I didn't indulge my nitpicky itch to point out the quote is "This never happened to the other fella" not "guy." Boo to me, I know.
As a Bond fan, there's no way I'm buying this piece of shit, either. I'd also suggest that as a Bond GAME - Goldeneye (N64) is maybe the least "Bond" feeling of all of them. It wasn't popular because you played it and felt like James Bond. It was popular because it was a first person shooter on consoles that worked, and also had stuff from James Bond that you recognized. I love that game to death, but the Bond in N64's Goldeneye acts more like John Matrix in Commando than anything.
Also, I don't think the "007, James Bond" codename theory is stupid. It's kinda fun. Obviously in the books, its the same guy. And references to previous films in On Her Majesty's and Spy Who Loved Me, etc, show they're supposed to be the same guy. But you can also argue that's basically just old-school fanservice, elbow to the ribs "Huh? Huh? Get it?" type stuff.
The main reason I like the James Bond codename theory is that it makes "The Rock" an unofficial sequel. John Mason is a British superspy captured by the Americans for finding out a secret too big, He's captured, MI6 decommissions him, drafts Simon Templar to 007 status, gives him the codename James Bond. Mason is now stashed in Alcatraz. Fast forward 20 years later, start blowing shit up.
As a Bond fan, there's no way I'm buying this piece of shit, either. I'd also suggest that as a Bond GAME - Goldeneye (N64) is maybe the least "Bond" feeling of all of them. It wasn't popular because you played it and felt like James Bond. It was popular because it was a first person shooter on consoles that worked, and also had stuff from James Bond that you recognized. I love that game to death, but the Bond in N64's Goldeneye acts more like John Matrix in Commando than anything.
Also, I don't think the "007, James Bond" codename theory is stupid. It's kinda fun. Obviously in the books, its the same guy. And references to previous films in On Her Majesty's and Spy Who Loved Me, etc, show they're supposed to be the same guy. But you can also argue that's basically just old-school fanservice, elbow to the ribs "Huh? Huh? Get it?" type stuff.
The main reason I like the James Bond codename theory is that it makes "The Rock" an unofficial sequel. John Mason is a British superspy captured by the Americans for finding out a secret too big, He's captured, MI6 decommissions him, drafts Simon Templar to 007 status, gives him the codename James Bond. Mason is now stashed in Alcatraz. Fast forward 20 years later, start blowing shit up.
it really could've been.
SlasherJPC
Banned
More xbox 360 streaming here! This time die another day portion!
shame I missed this stream. You should upload this to youtube.
The movies go up against that theory. Everything does, it's ridiculous. The fact it was started by Lee Tamahori (and hilariously debunked in that VERY SAME INTERVIEW), aka director of Die Another Day, should tell you everything you need to know. The man is a stain on the Bond series, and that's even taking into account the existence of Diamonds Are Forever and A View To A Kill.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Here is my video review... such a shame.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Gotta say, the ski section of OHMSS might be one of the wost gaming moments in many many years.
Yup. Goldfinger is like "so, we meet again Mr Bond?"
...nope, never met you before.
Also why does Oddjob throw his hat around? No explanation of why he does that...he just does.
(some of)These movies might be classics, but you still need exposition in your game.
How this mess comes from the GoldenEye guys I just don't know.
Yup. Goldfinger is like "so, we meet again Mr Bond?"
...nope, never met you before.
Also why does Oddjob throw his hat around? No explanation of why he does that...he just does.
(some of)These movies might be classics, but you still need exposition in your game.
How this mess comes from the GoldenEye guys I just don't know.
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
Well if the rumor that Legends was developed in 9 months is true I think that sums it up right there. Just the sheer notion of condensing 6 films down into hour long levels sounds horrifying. When any of them could have been a standalone game.
SniperHunter
Banned
good review. thanks for linking
Yeesh, I feel bad for Eurocom. They must've been under the gun to get this out in time for Skyfall.
It's so rushed and incomplete. They did a great job with Goldeneye, but now they've got this game on their lap. What a shame.
To give you guys a clearer picture, this game has no real ending. At the end of the moonraker missions it fades to black and it cuts to credits. >_<
EDIT: Wow, the video review posted above mentions the exact same things.
It's so rushed and incomplete. They did a great job with Goldeneye, but now they've got this game on their lap. What a shame.
To give you guys a clearer picture, this game has no real ending. At the end of the moonraker missions it fades to black and it cuts to credits. >_<
EDIT: Wow, the video review posted above mentions the exact same things.
AgentOtaku
Member
lol, that's because it ain't Daniel Craig
Great review. Sad that the game turned out like this.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Thanks... it's really a shame. I'm actually going to try the other bond games out again just to see how they compare to it.
IdreamofHIME
Member
How were they able to secure Benicio del Toro for the tiniest of parts, but couldn't get Halle Berry to agree to them using her likeness for Jinx?
Very good review, good job.
The shooting just looks janky. Like you can tell this game blows just by watching 30 seconds of gameplay.
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
That guy was already fired by Beenox for the same crappy first person punching mechanic in Spiderman Shattered Dimensions. No seriously it's the exact same thing.
Fox Mulder
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It's the 50th anniversary of Bond, and they were probably forced to do a game like this, but I wonder how many of the old movies the average person has actually seen. Just jumping around in movies like this is dumb, but not setting a coherent story for the general audience is worse.
Then again, I can't really recall what any of the modern CoD campaigns have been about beyond the world war set pieces.
I wish they'd re-do this premise on XBLA similar to Pinball FX or The Pinball Machine. Where you get the "shell" for free and instead of buying tables, you buy movies.
Essentially a 23 game DLC package where you can play what you want.
Obviously due to size and license it won't happen, but the concept would be cool.
And for God's sake don't modernize it!!!
Essentially a 23 game DLC package where you can play what you want.
Obviously due to size and license it won't happen, but the concept would be cool.
And for God's sake don't modernize it!!!
Such a shame. On paper this likely sounded like a good idea. I guess I should have known better then to think they'd do all these films justice. On less game to buy though. My bank account will be happy.
chickdigger802
Banned
Such a shame. On paper this likely sounded like a good idea. I guess I should have known better then to think they'd do all these films justice. On less game to buy though. My bank account will be happy.
Not particularly unless your intel was quite vague like" 4 whole bond movies in 1 game!"
The bond franchise deserved tons better than this. This is like a huge low point.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I've said it before, but you call something a franchise, don't be surprised when all you get is pure product.
Man, that REALLY hurts. That's one of the best chases in any of the early Bond movies.
fabricated backlash
Member
For fucks sake! They reused parts of Goldeneye level segments 1 to 1.
In the Goldfinger segment there is the engine room from Facility but instead of engines they put 4 silos on the lower floor.
I'm sure there are more examples like that, but damn that's just lazy. But then I guess they just were tasked to get a game out in time for Skyfall.
In the Goldfinger segment there is the engine room from Facility but instead of engines they put 4 silos on the lower floor.
I'm sure there are more examples like that, but damn that's just lazy. But then I guess they just were tasked to get a game out in time for Skyfall.
Fox Mulder
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they would never be able to give a movie the full game treatment like EA's From Russia with Love with that model. You'd maybe get a set piece level or multiplayer maps doing it that way at the most.
The multiplayer map that is suppose to be the ice palace I think from Die Anther Day is actually the Night Club map from Goldneye 007. The areas that lead up stairs that have the little lounge setup and the hallways connected to them are identical outside of color. Some parts of the map are altered but it's easy to see what they used. Recognized it right away in the video because that was my favorite map in GE.
matthewwhatever
Member
I ended up getting this game to review, and I started playing last night. I'm still going through the first mission (Goldfinger), but I'm ready to say that it's possibly the most freakishly ugly PS3 game I've ever played. The only thing I can think of that comes close is that Men In Black tie-in that came out earlier this year, and even that wasn't as hideous as 007 Legends is. Honestly, there are times when it looks like a PS2 game, especially when you're moving the camera around. Things look so-so when the camera is static, but as soon as it starts moving, everything gets muddy and pixelated.
On the upside, the gameplay isn't completely terrible. It's clearly not GOTY material or anything, but I've probably played worse.
On the upside, the gameplay isn't completely terrible. It's clearly not GOTY material or anything, but I've probably played worse.
SlasherJPC
Banned
I never finished Goldeneye on 360 but on Wii and was replaying this just to make sure I wasn't crazy how huge of a different the quality was and yep I noticed the same damn thing. BLEW MY FUCKING MIND!
http://nerdsontherocks.com/review-shooter-007-legends
I put my thoughts to words
And felt.. it came off a bit rambling.
I think it's a decent shooter. Nothing special, but what really offended me is just how much it fails in terms of fanservice.
It's supposed to celebrate the franchise.
I put my thoughts to words
And felt.. it came off a bit rambling.
I think it's a decent shooter. Nothing special, but what really offended me is just how much it fails in terms of fanservice.
It's supposed to celebrate the franchise.
LongDongJunon
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PsihoPerihelion
Member
Really good review. Congrats! What a shame this game turned out being crap. I'm a huge Bond fan.
btw, you look like a really young Michael Giacchino.