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[Catvoca]

I think I fell in love with a porn star
And got married in a bathroom
Honeymoon on the dance floor
And got divorced by the end of the night
That’s one hell of a life
*dope instrumental*

 

[torre_avenue]

I can't really believe what I'm reading, especially considering your Jai Paul avatar... I absolutely love Kanye but Stronger is quite possibly the worst track he has ever made by quite the margin and one of the worst singles of the entire 21st century so far, if I'm being honest. Why is this turd being celebrated? Oo

Alright, you can't just "walk" in here and drop that loaded bomb of a statement. Please explain why "Stronger" is one of the 21st century's worst singles.

 

[Camper Van Beethoven]

There's no reason to listen to this over Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

 

[RespectThySole]

No Hell of a Life slander shall be tolerated!

 

[Toparaman]

All those engineers and it basically just sounds like the original Daft Punk track.

Not one of Kanye's better songs imo. Flashing Lights is great though.

 

[The Driver]

yeezus is the masterpiece of this century.

But that's a Travis Scott album 🤔

 

[Z..]

Alright, you can't just "walk" in here and drop that loaded bomb of a statement. Please explain why "Stronger" is one of the 21st century's worst singles.

One of the worst beats he ever crafted, doubly so since it ruins a classic, terrible lyrics (more than usual), one of his worst recorded flows (cringingly bad) and it all comes together with such a tacky glaze. It's quite literally disgusting. Don't understand what is going on here at all. Horrible, horrible song.

 

[Tain]

There's no reason to listen to this over Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

pffft

 

[Beach]

Don't know if anyone has already said it but The Glory is the best song on the album. Top 10 Kanye track. Cocky Kanye at his greatest.

My Hat
My Shoes
My Coat

Spaceship
Through the Wire
Touch the Sky
Heard Em Say
Diamonds Remix
Hey Mama
Gone
The Glory
Gorgeous
Runaway

No real order

 

[Camper Van Beethoven]

pffft

More great conversation on neogaf.com. Maybe post a shitty gif next time.

 

[blame space]

it's a good song bro. so is the original. that's the point of a sample. sorry you caught feelings.

 

[Z..]

it's a good song bro. so is the original. that's the point of a sample. sorry you caught feelings.

Thing is, I literally can't fathom how it can be condidered a good song. HBFS is a gem and while I love Kanye (Late Registration and MBDTF are two of my fav albums ever), Stronger is literally disgusting to me. As in, one of the very worst pueces of music to ever exist. Pretty big fan of Graduation as an album, Champion, Everything I Am, The Glory and Homecoming are all great tracks I never tire of... Stronger just makes me nauseous it's so bad. I see no redeeming qualities in it whatsoever. Just pure unfiltered crap.

 

[blame space]

sorry you got mad about a sample. it doesn't make the sample or the song bad.

 

[Camper Van Beethoven]

it's a good song bro. so is the original. that's the point of a sample. sorry you caught feelings.

It's a good song because the sample is good. So there's no point in listening to the original song with some shitty lyrics rapped over it.

 

[Van Bur3n]

Oh, so he is the one who made that song.

 

[Z..]

sorry you got mad about a sample. it doesn't make the sample or the song bad.

It's not about the sample at all, personally. It's everything else, I see nothing good in the song. It's just horrible through and through.
For reference, I was quite hyped about the song before the release, as a big fan of both Daft Punk and Kanye, the idea seemed great on paper.
=

 

[blame space]

It's a good song because the sample is good. So there's no point in listening to the original song with some shitty lyrics rapped over it.

there's more to the song than the sample.

 

[pokeystaples]

I thought this was going to be about the Britney song.

Me too. I'm sad it isn't.

 

[Einchy]

Ten years of pissed off Daft Punk fans saying Kanye has no talent because he sampled, while they don't realized Daft Punk copied and pasted the song.

 

[PixelatedBookake]

have we discussed the line "I hate these niggas more than a Nazi"?

does he hate these dudes more than he hates Nazis or more than a Nazi hates black people?

I thought he was saying "I hate these niggas more than Anansi" like Anansi, the West African spider god trickery ¯_(&#12484_/¯

 

[siddx]

Great song, one of his last quality songs. Not even close to a masterpiece though.

 

[Camper Van Beethoven]

there's more to the song than the sample.

Like vapid lyrics?

 

[EloquentM]

Hold my liquor is the pinnacle of music. Play it on a Saturday night to the function. PLAY IT I dare you.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Hold my liquor is the pinnacle of music. Play it on a Saturday night to the function. PLAY IT I dare you.

If I had any editing skills, I would try to splice in that song with footage from Blade Runner 2049. I was listening to it yesterday and thought to myself "Damn, this sounds like some real sci-fi type shit now that I think about it"

 

[Ottaro]

Stronger is so good.

See ya'll in three years for the anniversary of Power.

 

[EloquentM]

Stronger is so good.

See ya'll in three years for the anniversary of Power.

Power>stronger

If I had any editing skills, I would try to splice in that song with footage from Blade Runner 2049. I was listening to it yesterday and thought to myself "Damn, this sounds like some real sci-fi type shit now that I think about it"

The production on that song. Just my god

 

[Bladenic]

It's cute but Stronger by Kelly Clarkson is the better Stronger.

 

[Lamel]

I think I fell in love with a porn star
And got married in a bathroom
Honeymoon on the dance floor
And got divorced by the end of the night
That’s one hell of a life
*dope instrumental*

Amazing verse haha

 

[StrangeRoboMemory]

I was never feeling this one, to be honest...despite all the work that went into the track, it still just sounds like a basic remix of the original. Much prefer Champion and Can't Tell Me Nothing from that album.

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

10 years since the release of this masterpiece.

A highlight of Graduation, "Stronger" is one of the best pop songs Kanye West has ever made. The stories behind this song's production are insane too. Kanye recorded this song with 8 audio engineers, 11 mix engineers, and ended up with close to 50 different versions of this track. Kanye ended up getting Timbaland in the studio because the drums weren't sounding the way he envisioned, a conclusion he reached after mixing "Stronger" 75 times and still feeling dissatisfied with the drums. Besides the technical side of this song's creation, this was the first collaboration between Kanye and Daft Punk, a relationship that ended up blessing the world with "On Sight" and "Black Skinhead." Here's the three of them performing at the Grammys. Fuck, even the way he intro's the song during his live songs is so fucking dope. The best one though has to be his Coachella performance of it (around the 25 minute mark).

I first heard "Stronger" at a dorky middle school dance. That song changed my life because it introduced me to Daft Punk and "Alive 2007" and basically helped me get into music in the first place. I consider it a top 10 track of his discography, because it's a damn flawless blend of techno, hip-hop, and pop sensibility that's catchy as hell. It's a perfect club banger. So, talk about your memories with this song.

Spoiler

Top 10 Kanye songs: Runaway, On Sight, Blood on The Leaves, Street Lights, Stronger, Flashing Lights, Touch The Sky, Hey Mama, Roses, Lost in The World

Top 10 invalidated by not including Gone.

Scust.

 

[KennyKen]

street lights 😭

I kno that feel

 

[VeeP]

Roses in top 10?! Yes! I never see that in people's top 10, but I love that song. Stronger is amazing as well OP.

street lights 😭

Solid as well

 

[brianjones]

I remember hearing a snippet of the song on entourage before it was officially released

it never really lived up to the pre release hype

 

[JCHandsom]

Power>stronger

 

[blame space]

can we just have this be a running thread because it really helps me

 

[Sad Affleck]

I thought this was going to be about the Britney song.

.

 

[blame space]

chain heavy is so fucking good.

 

[acheron_xl]

His sample at least re-contextualized the source material relatively well. I heard one Machine Gun Kelly song once that ripped off the chorus hook from a Fastball song and just shook my head sadly.

 

[blame space]

yeah I feel like so many artists just rip shit off and that's nothing you can accuse Kanye West of.

 

[Monochromaticx]

only kayne song i like. the music video is pretty cool

 

[MrS]

yeah I feel like so many artists just rip shit off and that's nothing you can accuse Kanye West of.

Not sure I agree with that, actually.

 

[soxinthebox]

I LOVE Kanye's albums but somehow haven't listened to Graduation. Time to fix that I think.

 

[blame space]

Not sure I agree with that, actually.

was he paid

 

[Mechanized]

What the fuck how is this song 10 years old holy shit

 

[Red Liquorice]

I thought this was going to be about the Britney song.

lol, me too. I have heard the Britney song, never heard this one.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

Not sure I agree with that, actually.

there's too much red tape and slowness in getting a sample cleared

so what you do is steal it and then they have to reach out to you

 

[blame space]

I'm kind of triggered right now. I want them to be friends.

 

[WaffleTaco]

My intro to Kanye. What a fantastic song. They don't make rap music like this anymore...

Spoiler

neither does Kanye

 

[Pics_nao]

I like Drunk and Hot Girls just because of Kanye's delivery on it.

Graduation still his worst album overall but no one can deny how huge it was

What the fuck

 

[Tain]

More great conversation on neogaf.com. Maybe post a shitty gif next time.

i mean when you open with "there's no possible redeeming qualities to Stronger outside of the Daft Punk sample" where's the conversation gonna go? that's GIF-tier posting my dude.