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[tsumake]

You just described hundreds of action movies over the decades and it's a massively generalised sentence. There is nothing in there relating to the actual movies themselves.

Perhaps that’s the point.

 

[Great Hair]

DeNiro was great in the Irishman, so I wouldn't say he is washed up, just takes any role for money these days.

 

[Romulus]

Got a friend that has run several bars in LA and surrounding areas. He told me how he used to run into Leo at various bars in the early 2010s. Dude was apparently running through chicks at unbelievable level. Like far beyond other stars. And for him to say that, its incredible.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[IntentionalPun]

Maybe stick to your ADHD superhero movies then.
The Irishman was an absolutely brilliant atmospheric piece of work and much of it is due to the movie taking its time to let the actors breathe.

I swear, modern audiences swallow every comic-book dreck, but if you give them a decent movie with well written character development, tight plot and thought-provoking message, they turn their noses.

I love all kinds of slow movies but found the Irishman dull as hell, and not remotely thought provoking.

 

[tsumake]

I love all kinds of slow movies but found the Irishman dull as hell, and not remotely thought provoking.

How was it dull?

 

[El Pistolero]

I am in the minority, but I am yet to be impressed by any of Leo's performances. He got outshined in every movie he was in by at least one of his co-stars. The only role that he has played that I truly like is that of the mentally challenged brother in "What's eating Gilbert Grape?"; He was incredibly convincing in that one...
I will still watch for Marty though...

 

[Peggies]

That's like complaining that every Marvel movie features superheroes.

Tell us, where did Marvel movies touch you?

I'm not a huge fan of them myself but didn't particularly enjoy "The Irishman" either .

 

[belmarduk]

DiCaprio has never been in a bad movie. I know a lot of people didn't like The Beach or The Aviator but they were both fantastic in my opinion.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

I was enjoying the Irishman until they used a de aged DeNiro for his younger self and the whole film just fell apart for me, he may of looked younger but he still moved and acted like an old cunt and that bit where he attacks the fella was embarrassing to watch and I just switched it off... Terrible decision to not cast a young actor in that role

Yeah that shit sucked. Not exactly the much-needed counterpoint to all the scenes of the geezers falling asleep while trying to remember the plot. I was shocked at how bad the whole thing was. I didn't know anything about de-aging attempts going in, just that it was Pesci, DeNiro, Pacino and Scorcese... Yeah they're a collective 500 years old but I still didn't think it could go that wrong.

 

[RJMacready73]

Yeah that shit sucked. Not exactly the much-needed counterpoint to all the scenes of the geezers falling asleep while trying to remember the plot. I was shocked at how bad the whole thing was. I didn't know anything about de-aging attempts going in, just that it was Pesci, DeNiro, Pacino and Scorcese... Yeah they're a collective 500 years old but I still didn't think it could go that wrong.

haha fuck that's worse than i can remember.. i mean look at him trying to balance himself and not topple over...

 

[SJRB]

How was it dull?

If you have no prior knowledge on who Jimmy Hoffa is or what he did, nor any interest in the [arguably very uninteresting] topic of worker unions, a lot of this movie is lost on you.

It's a snoozefest. For me it's the most boring Scorsese movie by far. It's slow, it's neither clever nor funny, DeNiro is very clearly past his prime [not his fault, you can't cast a 80-year-old to play a 45-year-old]

 

[BigBooper]

Yeah that shit sucked. Not exactly the much-needed counterpoint to all the scenes of the geezers falling asleep while trying to remember the plot. I was shocked at how bad the whole thing was. I didn't know anything about de-aging attempts going in, just that it was Pesci, DeNiro, Pacino and Scorcese... Yeah they're a collective 500 years old but I still didn't think it could go that wrong.

That looks ridiculous, but I'm not sure people remember how cheesy some parts of casino were.

 

[Prison Mike]

That looks ridiculous, but I'm not sure people remember how cheesy some parts of casino were.

 

[GeekyDad]

...Let's hope Deniro is not in it, he's a washed up old actor now

Joke comment?

Right?

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Too late to explore the planet
Too soon to explore the stars

Just in time to see Leonardo Dicaprio transition from twink to daddy.

 

[tsumake]

If you have no prior knowledge on who Jimmy Hoffa is or what he did, nor any interest in the [arguably very uninteresting] topic of worker unions, a lot of this movie is lost on you.

It's a snoozefest. For me it's the most boring Scorsese movie by far. It's slow, it's neither clever nor funny, DeNiro is very clearly past his prime [not his fault, you can't cast a 80-year-old to play a 45-year-old]

Well, the film wasn’t about Hoffa. It was about Frank. It’s not a gangster film, it’s a character study.

You don’t have to like the movie, but the point of it was seeing Frank growing old and having to live with the consequences of his decisions.

 

[Loope]

I've enjoyed some superhero movies, but it's not like I'm getting much substance out of them. It's a real shame, because comics have such a rich and long history to source from.

DiCaprio was one of those actors that I've always disliked, mostly due to his teenage heartthrob status. But over the years I've really come to appreciate him as an actor, Gatsby, Wolf, Revenant, Shutter Island, Gangs, Inception... dude has an impeccable filmography and he's only getting better with age.

Todays movie industry is way too focused on fitness and youth when the best qualities of an actor really only shine through after some life experiences. I whish Hollywood could learn to age gracefully. Maybe that's why The Irishman struck such a chord with me, it's Scorsese and his pals coming to terms with growing older. Hence why I get why young CGI De Niro seemed a bit at odds with that.

He showed more range when he was younger, but i think that he is now a more refined actor if that makes sense. His maneirisms etc. are more tonned down and he conveys emotions more subtly. Kind of like Anthony Hopkins or Daniel Day Lewis (i'm not saying he is on the same level yet).

 

[Loope]

What's the story behind this?

 

[Great Hair]

What's the story behind this?

 

[tsumake]

He showed more range when he was younger, but i think that he is now a more refined actor if that makes sense. His maneirisms etc. are more tonned down and he conveys emotions more subtly. Kind of like Anthony Hopkins or Daniel Day Lewis (i'm not saying he is on the same level yet).

If you think looking like you’re on the verge of a nervous breakdown is subtle, sure.

 

[Loope]

If you think looking like you’re on the verge of a nervous breakdown is subtle, sure.

Ehehehhe. He doesn't always look like that. Come on.

 

[tsumake]

Ehehehhe. He doesn't always look like that. Come on.

Sometimes he looks like his lower intestine’s holding a bowling ball.

 

[strange headache]

If you have no prior knowledge on who Jimmy Hoffa is or what he did, nor any interest in the [arguably very uninteresting] topic of worker unions, a lot of this movie is lost on you.

Scorsese uses historical backdrops to explore aspects of human nature. The Irishman explores the theme of once powerful persona coming to terms with their fading influence. Doesn't matter if you're a politician, a union president, a skilled hitman or a mafia boss, sooner or later age will catch up to you. It is the ultimate equalizer as evidenced by the fact that no matter who they were, they all ended up living their quite pension life before wasting away at a retirement home.

Scorsese is documenting the inevitable fall from hubris by answering the simple question: What happens if you never really lose? In the end, Frank was never really convicted for his crimes, he kept winning only to prolong what was inevitable. Despite never being caught, what did his life of ruthless thievery amount to? A comfortable life for sure, but the one single thing that ended up mattering the most to him, was the one thing that he could not force. The thing he neglected the most, that would have given his life meaning long after his death... the love of his daughter.

What a thief, a mafia boss or a corrupt politician ultimately end up neglecting in their single-focused pursuit of power, fame and money are the immaterial things, the things that do not fade with age and that persist long after you've perished. Scorsese ultimately criticizes the materialistic nature of criminality. Even if you win, even if you don't get caught, going down that path ultimately means to lose it all in the long run.

 

[tsumake]

Scorsese uses historical backdrops to explore aspects of human nature. The Irishman explores the theme of once powerful persona coming to terms with their fading influence. Doesn't matter if you're a politician, a union president, a skilled hitman or a mafia boss, sooner or later age will catch up to you. It is the ultimate equalizer es evidence by the fact that no matter who they were, they all ended up living their quite pension life before wasting away at a retirement home.

Scorsese is documenting the inevitable fall from hubris by answering the simple question: What happens if you never really lose? In the end, Frank was never really convicted for his crimes, he kept winning only to prolong what was inevitable. Despite never being caught, what did his life of ruthless thievery amount to? A comfortable life for sure, but the one single thing that ended up mattering the most to him, was the one thing that he could not force. The thing he neglected the most, that would have given his life meaning long after his death... the love of his daughter.

What a thief, a mafia boss or a corrupt politician ultimately end up neglecting in their single-focused pursuit of power, fame and money are the immaterial things, the things that do not fade with age and that persist long after you've perished. Scorsese ultimately criticizes the materialistic nature of criminality. Even if you win, even if you don't get caught, going down that path ultimately means to lose it all in the long run.

Nicely put. You see echoes of that in “Goodfellas.”

 

[Pegasus Actual]

You don’t have to like the movie, but the point of it was seeing Frank growing old and having to live with the consequences of his decisions.

I felt like I grew old while watching it, and am living with the consequences of my decision to do so.

 

[tsumake]

I felt like I grew old while watching it, and am living with the consequences of my decision to do so.

I’m sure it feels that way if you have the attention span of a tiktoker.

It’s a bit ironic that a person is willing to spend several hours binge watching a tv show but can’t watch a long form narrative.