You should really sell your PS3 if you're that unhappy with it.kylej said:The Playstation Network or the Playstation Store? If the former it should be a pre-alpha tag on it.
edible_candle said:One of my friends is having an odd issue when trying to download the 2.3 firmware. No matter what he does, it won't move past 0%. He's already reformatted the harddrive and tried again, but still no luck. Anyone have any suggestions?
Is his hard drive full?edible_candle said:He's tried moving the firmware over from an external harddrive, but it says "Copying" and won't go past 0% on that either.
Hahaha, if this were to be the case, I'd have to go over there and beat him. Thanks for all the suggestions guys.Schrade said:Is his hard drive full?
Lain said:Waiting for the icons to load in the new store is a pita.
Caching them forever (as an option) would have been so much better.
Also I find the main menu to be ugly, when everything else is icon based. Or at least could have gone with centered text.
i dont think it is. i tried buying wild arms from the us store and my card was rejected.HiVision said:is the rumour that it is now credit-card region free true? Has anyone tried it out?
Same here, also Aussie store. Maybe they're just trying to placate us for taking away all of the free music videos we used to be able to get for freeLobster said:The icons load instantly for me ..
Yay for Aussie store
BeeDog said:Goddamnit, image-caching needs to be added pronto.
Has anyone ordered something yet from the store? I'm a bit paranoid something'll go wrong since it's so fresh.
sajj316 said:What we need to do is chill while Sony sorts this stuff out. They did make an official statement on the blogs I believe and acknowledged the slowness issue in downloading the icons. Just give it another day or so for it to settle down. You know this stuff is all free to us so give them the benefit of the doubt when they say it'll get resolved.
When they say caching, it actually is but per Playstation Store session. It clears the cache when you log out. It will get smart enough to cache images/icons that are still relevant to the store grid but over time.
jonabbey said:That's not good enough. They absolutely need to be doing persistent caching. As long as each image on the store has a persistently unique identifier, they can keep it all in cache, and just pull the images up in response to the (small) xml files sent by the store each time. Add in a bit of logic to remove images not referenced in xml in some period of time (6 months, say), and waiting for images would go away almost entirely.
Easy to code on the client, but they'd need to make sure their server-side operations were congruent with the requirements of the caching scheme. Guarantee unique server-side identifiers for all images over time, or put the modification time of the images in the initial xml download file, or use http headers to express the modification time.
Something. This is really embarassing.
jonabbey said:That's not good enough. They absolutely need to be doing persistent caching. As long as each image on the store has a persistently unique identifier, they can keep it all in cache, and just pull the images up in response to the (small) xml files sent by the store each time. Add in a bit of logic to remove images not referenced in xml in some period of time (6 months, say), and waiting for images would go away almost entirely.
Easy to code on the client, but they'd need to make sure their server-side operations were congruent with the requirements of the caching scheme. Guarantee unique server-side identifiers for all images over time, or put the modification time of the images in the initial xml download file, or use http headers to express the modification time.
Something. This is really embarassing.
edible_candle said:One of my friends is having an odd issue when trying to download the 2.3 firmware. No matter what he does, it won't move past 0%. He's already reformatted the harddrive and tried again, but still no luck. Anyone have any suggestions?
jonabbey said:That's not good enough. They absolutely need to be doing persistent caching. As long as each image on the store has a persistently unique identifier, they can keep it all in cache, and just pull the images up in response to the (small) xml files sent by the store each time. Add in a bit of logic to remove images not referenced in xml in some period of time (6 months, say), and waiting for images would go away almost entirely.
Easy to code on the client, but they'd need to make sure their server-side operations were congruent with the requirements of the caching scheme. Guarantee unique server-side identifiers for all images over time, or put the modification time of the images in the initial xml download file, or use http headers to express the modification time.
Something. This is really embarassing.
sajj316 said:I don't disagree with you but you'll see improvements over time. There are users now that say their icons load instantly. I think its just because the first day rush is over. Its not like Sony is sending over monster image files to fill the Playstation Store grid. I do think that Sony expected bandwidth issues the first day because of all the connections to the store but every day will not be like day 1. It will normalize over time and the performance of the store will be exactly as Sony intended it to be.
We don't know that the capability isn't there for persistent caching. They could be setting an aggressive expiration/refresh rate on resources at the moment that could be countermanding that.jonabbey said:That's not good enough. They absolutely need to be doing persistent caching.
Panajev2001a said:The problem with not doing persistent caching across PSN Store sessions (which is what is happening now AFAIK: each time you close the PSN Store UI the cache is cleared) is that everytime Sony releases some MUST HAVE product on the PSN Store that naturally leads to a high number of simultaneous visitors connecting to the PSN Store the problems like slow icon loading will be back with a vengeance.
Edit: Jim, I think that Sony better prepares a PSN Store client update ASAP which creates a small (50 MB more or less could be a good start) on PS3's HDD to be used as persistent cache. What will they do when for example BIG DLC's or AAA PSN titles get released and everyone (considering that PS3's user-base should keep growing this problem might worsen in those busy peaks) connects to the PSN store ?
CoG said:It does not seem that images are being cached. I am starting to think it's by design which leads me to ask, WTF?!?
You could do the same thing before with the d-pad.BojTrek said:I like that the pointer no longer moves like a mouse, it just clicks to the location I point to.
tanod said:So has the petition been made tofire all of SCEE's PSN Store staffestablish an official European blog and change the organization of the European store to the American style?
I'm guessing it would get a sizable number of signatures. If one of those can get Uwe Boll's attention, you'd think that SCEE could get a clue too.
you're effed.Minotauro said:I don't know if it's a coincidence or not but after upgrading to 2.30 last night, my PS3 refuses to read any discs. Nothing comes up in the XMB for Blu Ray movies, PS3 games, or DVDs.
This probably means I'm going to have to hassle with Sony about getting a replacement unit but I'm holding out home that it's firmware-related and I won't have to be without my PS3 for the next few weeks...
Minotauro said:I don't know if it's a coincidence or not but after upgrading to 2.30 last night, my PS3 refuses to read any discs. Nothing comes up in the XMB for Blu Ray movies, PS3 games, or DVDs.
This probably means I'm going to have to hassle with Sony about getting a replacement unit but I'm holding out home that it's firmware-related and I won't have to be without my PS3 for the next few weeks...
how can you tell?cgcg said:Caching is definitely there. They just need to set it to expire in 5 days or something.
Minotauro said:I don't know if it's a coincidence or not but after upgrading to 2.30 last night, my PS3 refuses to read any discs. Nothing comes up in the XMB for Blu Ray movies, PS3 games, or DVDs.
This probably means I'm going to have to hassle with Sony about getting a replacement unit but I'm holding out home that it's firmware-related and I won't have to be without my PS3 for the next few weeks...
cgcg said:Caching is definitely there. They just need to set it to expire in 5 days or something.
sajj316 said:woa .... I got in another chapter of Lair after the firmware upgrade to 2.30 (analogue controls!!). I don't believe an upgrade to your firmware is causing your discs to not read. Did you get an internal error code when your PS3 tries to read the disc?
Lestrade said:Hi all,
As you will have noticed, the PS Store re-launched successfully today, and we'd like to thank you for your positive feedback.
We are aware that many of you have experienced delays whilst the PS Store's thumbnail icons are being downloaded. This is a temporary consequence of a new system implementation and high global traffic levels, and will be resolved within the next few days.
Thank you for your patience and continued support!
All the best,
Lestrade
CoG said:Browser caching of images works by checking against the server each time if the image has been updated since the cached copy was loaded. As Panajev2001a pointed out, it seems the images are cached for the session, not long-term. I hope they fix this.
In other words....Amon37 said: