2010/11 NBA Dec |OT| of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7lMXXaUaIo PEACE

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ToxicAdam said:
I don't understand how the Cavs can look like a .500 team for the first month and then just instantly regress into the worst team in basketball. It's not like their schedule has gotten harder or they have had a rash of injuries.

I'd say blow it up, but what team is going to take Mo Williams and Jameson? They could probably get some value for Hickson or Andy, but then you have absolutely nothing in the middle.
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Mo and Jamison have some value but nobody is going to touch Varejao's contract.
 
Brandon Roy post-game said:
(On if he was not in rhythm tonight) “I tweaked my knee a little early in the game, and it was little sore going on from there. You know, I still got some looks, but didn’t really have the explosiveness. Earlier I kind of made a move and kind of twisted it a little bit. I didn’t really have the same lift, but I should be good for tomorrow.”
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Damn. He just randomly tweaks his knee now? :/
 
I seriously don't understand why Portland doesn't just fire sale the fuck out of their medical/training/conditioning staff and replace them with people who are actually competent.
 
I'm not sure who I should pity more, Clippers fans because they're Clippers fans or Blazers fans because they were so close to being great but the injury bug destroyed all hopes.
 
Going back in time I would have gone with Durant obviously but even today I can't laugh at Portland. Oden was the better pick at the time. It's not like Durant is Kobe. Damn good basketball player but wake me up when he wins a chip.

And the only pick that would have been better than even a damaged Brandon Roy would have been Rudy Gay and I don't think Portland fans are shedding any tears over that.

Winning a chip in this league is just hard as shit. Portland would be better off just unloading their vet players, collecting draft picks and starting over. Maybe a change in the CBA will make the rebuilding process less drastic as it currently is in the NBA.
 
I'm still afraid of giving Portland too much credit. They made the same mistake OKC is making now-keeping all their young guys, without adding that one vet piece they desperately need. The rare times Oden's ancient ass got on the court, he never put the offence together like people expected him to. LMA just straight up is overpaid. Even if everyone miraculously was healthy, I don't think a Roy/Oden/LMA core was getting Portland rings.
 
Dark FaZe said:
Going back in time I would have gone with Durant obviously but even today I can't laugh at Portland. Oden was the better pick at the time. It's not like Durant is Kobe. Damn good basketball player but wake me up when he wins a chip.

And the only pick that would have been better than even a damaged Brandon Roy would have been Rudy Gay and I don't think Portland fans are shedding any tears over that.

Winning a chip in this league is just hard as shit. Portland would be better off just unloading their vet players, collecting draft picks and starting over. Maybe a change in the CBA will make the rebuilding process less drastic as it currently is in the NBA.
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When presented with Jordan vs Bowie 2.0, the franchise made the same fucking mistake. I can certainly laugh at them for that.
 
Dark FaZe said:
Going back in time I would have gone with Durant obviously but even today I can't laugh at Portland. Oden was the better pick at the time. It's not like Durant is Kobe. Damn good basketball player but wake me up when he wins a chip.
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Durant is a solid, franchise player and most importantly:

DURANT IS STILL AN ACTIVE PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE.

Please explain to me how having Durant would be worse for them?

Even when he was on the court, Oden was pretty tame.

He was hardly setting the world on fire.
 
Dark FaZe said:
Going back in time I would have gone with Durant obviously but even today I can't laugh at Portland. Oden was the better pick at the time. It's not like Durant is Kobe. Damn good basketball player but wake me up when he wins a chip.

And the only pick that would have been better than even a damaged Brandon Roy would have been Rudy Gay and I don't think Portland fans are shedding any tears over that.

Winning a chip in this league is just hard as shit. Portland would be better off just unloading their vet players, collecting draft picks and starting over. Maybe a change in the CBA will make the rebuilding process less drastic as it currently is in the NBA.
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What are you babbling about... Nothing in this post makes a shred of sense...
 
ryutaro's mama said:
I just saw the replay of that Harden poster on Hickson.

Oh dear.

That was straight destruction.
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That was a huge moment and hopefully his confidence went +10 and he is getting more aggressive. Harden's shooting is going to be a major component to our success if we want to make any noise in the post season and he needs to get all the pumping up he can.
 
Barrage said:
I'm still afraid of giving Portland too much credit. They made the same mistake OKC is making now-keeping all their young guys, without adding that one vet piece they desperately need. The rare times Oden's ancient ass got on the court, he never put the offence together like people expected him to. LMA just straight up is overpaid. Even if everyone miraculously was healthy, I don't think a Roy/Oden/LMA core was getting Portland rings.
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Spoken like someone who didn't watch a single portland game. The dude was a beast on the boards, ridiculously efficient, and his only downside was that his post game was somewhat awkward. Without the injuries, oden would be anchoring one of the best defenses in the entire league. Not to mention that they would have matched up almost perfectly against the lakers. Without injuries, the blazers at least make a couple wcf appearances, and probably head to the finals once.
 
No real great match-ups today, couple worthwhile.

MIA vs NO - NO is in terrible position right now. They have lost 7 of the past 10, their are on a back to back, and they are on the road against a streaking MIA team. Their main problem is players not named CP3 have terrible consistency, Ariza may show up on 1/3 games, but West will disappear every other game. If their shooters are not on, they will lose badly. With MIA holding opponents to 42% FG and 31%3PT, both are league bests, can't see this being too terribly close. The key for MIA is to not let Okafor clown Joel Anthony again, this can be avoided by making sure Joel stays on the bench until the coast is clear. :/

Edit: Vegas Odds are MIA by 10 1/2................

MEM vs POR and IND vs CHI are also going to be the games worth watching. The others are blowouts.
 
lawlohwhat said:
Spoken like someone who didn't watch a single portland game. The dude was a beast on the boards, ridiculously efficient, and his only downside was that his post game was somewhat awkward.
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The guy averaged like 4 fouls in 20 minutes. That means freethrows by the bucketload for the opponent, a momentum-killer for the Blazers, etc. He gambled all the time. He'd get a block every 2 fouls. He had so much to learn. He was not that efficient at all.
 
OKC is 17-8, first in the Northwest, and is the 4 seed overall in the West in spite of playing utterly mediocre basketball for the first 25 games.

We have a great shot to get to 20-8 after three more winnable games at home, then on the road to take on the Bobkittens and those pesky Knickerbockers.

Do I smell 22-8? :D
 
SamuraiX- said:
I seriously don't understand why Portland doesn't just fire sale the fuck out of their medical/training/conditioning staff and replace them with people who are actually competent.
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Brandon Roy has always had terrible, awful knees. Every team doctor at draft time said his career was only going to last 5-7 years. Portland has specifically targeted injury-prone players and those players have gotten injured, it's not really a surprise. Oden is one of the few players they picked recently who wasn't injury prone.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Brandon Roy has always had terrible, awful knees. Every team doctor at draft time said his career was only going to last 5-7 years. Portland has specifically targeted injury-prone players and those players have gotten injured, it's not really a surprise. Oden is one of the few players they picked recently who wasn't injury prone.
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Sad but true.

The SunBreak said:
Roy has complained of pain all season. Blazer trainers thought Roy's meniscus, the knee cartilage that absorbs friction between the upper and lower leg bones, might be the problem. They asked a specialist whether surgery might be a good idea. Not necessary, doc said. Roy doesn't have any meniscus left to operate on.

"(It's) bone-on-bone there," Roy told The Oregonian. "It's something I'm going to have to deal with for the rest of my career."
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http://thesunbreak.com/2010/11/15/t...egend-or-brandon-roy-and-the-missing-meniscus

Read this article last night about Roy, it sounds really bad.
 
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Wow...if he keeps playing, he's going to be one of those dudes in a wheelchair or on crutches forever at like 40 or something. It was sad watching players end up old before their time like that when the 50 Greatest were walking in 1997. :(
 
dIEHARD said:
Does Phil Jackson ever just shut the hell up about officials? Dude whines more than a Jazz fan! ::rimshot::
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You weren't here yesterday during the Knicks game, it was almost as bad as being on GAF when the Jazz are playing.

I fully expect NBA-GAF to melt down when they play each other.
 
Brandon Roy should just sit out this season. It´s not like they going anywhere with a 6th or 7th seed.

Sit out, enjoy the lockout and maybe a one and a half break can improve his health. I would hate to see his carrear T-mac´d.

Portland is not making this any easier, maybe he is forced to play because of his contract. In the end, Balzers are just hurting themselves.
 
K.Jack said:
We need like three good years in the lottery.

It's really hard to watch right now.
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That loss to the cHeat really sent them into a freefall.

Just some godawful basketball right now. And the worse they play, the more it validates LBJ's decision to bolt, and reconfirms that no matter how big of a douche he is... he's still the best player on the planet.
 
KingGondo said:
You weren't here yesterday during the Knicks game, it was almost as bad as being on GAF when the Jazz are playing.

I fully expect NBA-GAF to melt down when they play each other.
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What, 40 posts from Knick fans and 3 from Jazz fans?
 
lawlohwhat said:
Spoken like someone who didn't watch a single portland game. The dude was a beast on the boards, ridiculously efficient, and his only downside was that his post game was somewhat awkward. Without the injuries, oden would be anchoring one of the best defenses in the entire league. Not to mention that they would have matched up almost perfectly against the lakers. Without injuries, the blazers at least make a couple wcf appearances, and probably head to the finals once.
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I say he never picked up the offense like expected. The biggest compliment to his offence you can give is "his post game is somewhat akward." I rest my case.
 
KingGondo said:
You weren't here yesterday during the Knicks game, it was almost as bad as being on GAF when the Jazz are playing.

I fully expect NBA-GAF to melt down when they play each other.
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If people are going to keep pointing out this Jazz ref thing, I want evidence. Who is complaining game to game? Based on observation, I'd say Rockets-Age is the most egregious when it comes to whining by a mile.

Here's the Utah fan list. Who is guilty here?

- diehard
- ItWasMeantToBe19
- shibby
- Malleymal
- BlackSalad (once a season post at most)
- AlteredBeast (rarely posts)
- Myself

So who is doing it? If you're going to point someone out, you better be able to back it up.

I rarely even post while the Jazz are playing because I'm either at the game (aside from one or two quick phone posts) or watching and I don't watch at my computer.
 
Jeff-DSA said:
If people are going to keep pointing out this Jazz ref thing, I want evidence. Who is complaining game to game? Based on observation, I'd say Rockets-Age is the most egregious when it comes to whining by a mile.

Here's the Utah fan list. Who is guilty here?

- diehard
- ItWasMeantToBe19
- shibby
- Malleymal
- BlackSalad (once a season post at most)
- AlteredBeast (rarely posts)
- Myself

So who is doing it? If you're going to point someone out, you better be able to back it up.

I rarely even post while the Jazz are playing because I'm either at the game (aside from one or two quick phone posts) or watching and I don't watch at my computer.
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GAF is serious business:lol
 
I'm just curious, because I keep hearing it. Often times it's coming from the most guilty, but I'll refrain from throwing anybody under the bus right now.
 
Jeff-DSA said:
I'm just curious, because I keep hearing it. Often times it's coming from the most guilty, but I'll refrain from throwing anybody under the bus right now.
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I thought they were just stereotyping off the reputation of the utah home crowds for getting loud and angry on almost every single whistle.
 
Jeff-DSA said:
I'm just curious, because I keep hearing it. Often times it's coming from the most guilty, but I'll refrain from throwing anybody under the bus right now.
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It all pretty much stems from the ref complaints after the New Year's OKC-Utah game last year.

There were some bad calls made in OKC's favor, but the bitching was endless from dIEHARD and yourself for the rest of the season.

It also comes from watching Utah games on TV, because the fans CONSTANTLY boo the refs for any perceived slights. This also applies to Portland fans.
 
Well, to be fair, Portland and Utah fans are just generally more loud than most. OKC fans sound like they boo a lot too, but they're also one of the loudest positive crowds in the league.

At least it's not like the Lakers where you don't hear anything until the booing starts... :lol
 
Jeff-DSA said:
Well, to be fair, Portland and Utah fans are just generally more loud than most. OKC fans sound like they boo a lot too, but they're also one of the loudest positive crowds in the league.

At least it's not like the Lakers where you don't hear anything until the booing starts... :lol
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Don't get me wrong, I love that the NBA has passionate fanbases. You just have to admit that the reputations of the Utah/Portland fanbases is at least partially deserved.

And if you can't apply generalizations of a fanbase to specific GAF poster, then where's the fun?
 
seattle6418 said:
Brandon Roy should just sit out this season. It´s not like they going anywhere with a 6th or 7th seed.

Sit out, enjoy the lockout and maybe a one and a half break can improve his health. I would hate to see his carrear T-mac´d.

Portland is not making this any easier, maybe he is forced to play because of his contract. In the end, Balzers are just hurting themselves.
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There's nothing to be done. Sitting out a season won't make his knees any better.
 
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