2010/11 NBA Dec |OT| of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7lMXXaUaIo PEACE

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The Frankman said:
It's the NBA, every team goes on a run.
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Thats not what I'm saying. Most good teams can go on a run and take advantage of the lead afterwards. Either with consistent scoring (which is impossible because Amare isn't inhuman) or at least respectable defense (when the knicks aren't blocking shots, they're getting their cheeks spread).

The Knicks almost never take advantage of a run against a good team. They depend on flukey shit way too much...
 
Ninja Scooter said:
JAX is responsible for one of their banners so NO.
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Tony Parker goes out of his way to make sure that each of his teammates has the pleasure of going back to a happy home every night too.
 
McDonald on Twitter: Manu still can't talk. In fact, sounds worse. Can't breathe. Pop wanted to hold him out vs. Mavs. Manu won't listen.


JMcDonald_SAEN
"It's a good thing I don't have to make the calls," Manu croaked at me before the game. Could be worse. Could have Bill Schoening's job.
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*sigh*

apparently Manu is still sick.

Evens things up a bit I guess.
 
The Frankman said:
Describe "flukey shit".
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Shooting an ungodly percentage against a team while their star player is essentially benched in the 4th for no reason. Playing a team where their star player uncharacteristically misses an assload of free throws late in the game for 'no reason at all'. Missing defensive anchors. Etc.
 
DY_nasty said:
Shooting an ungodly percentage against a team while their star player is essentially benched in the 4th for no reason. Playing a team where their star player uncharacteristically misses an assload of free throws late in the game for 'no reason at all'. Missing defensive anchors. Etc.
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That's the NBA, dawg. Knicks have many "flukey" losses by your definition then.
 
How can the Knicks justify trying to guard Howard straight up with Wilson Chandler or 5-foul Amare? If there was ever a time for Hack-a-Dwight, this is it.

Richardson early dagger.
 
The Frankman said:
That's the NBA, dawg. Knicks have many "flukey" losses by your definition then.
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Uh... no? They lose the same way every time. They're a fundamentally broken team like the Bobcats of last year (except the whole beating good teams part). Most of their losses are self-inflicted, but they haven't done anything to fix those issues yet and don't seem to be willing to fix them aside from Plan Omicron: Get Carmelo for Chandler and Douglas.

Edit: JRich is so unclutch...
 
Doomsayer said:
I still think thats pretty lame that you can be in the air when the defender sets up and still get called for a charge.
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Uh, well thats not how its supposed to work according to the rules..you have to be set by the time they jump. You can't slide in there while they are in the air.
 
The Crimson Blur said:
Uh, well thats not how its supposed to work according to the rules..you have to be set by the time they jump. You can't slide in there while they are in the air.
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Yeah, but this is the NBA officials were talking about.

Hedo daggah.
 
The Frankman said:
No team loses the same way every time. Your argument is invalid.
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:lol

Whats the biggest issue with the Knicks? Be real. I know they're your team and all but everyone can see it but Knicks fans.

Instead of actually addressing their problems over the course of the season, they're stubborn as hell about their playstyle thinking that all of those wins over the Clippers and Kings were due to a good, working system.
 
Hack-A-Howard in effect!
Whats the biggest issue with the Knicks? Be real. I know they're your team and all but everyone can see it but Knicks fans.

Instead of actually addressing their problems over the course of the season, they're stubborn as hell about their playstyle thinking that all of those wins over the Clippers and Kings were due to a good, working system.
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Lets be real then, what do you think their problem is?
 
DY_nasty said:
Whats the biggest issue with the Knicks? Be real. I know they're your team and all but everyone can see it but Knicks fans.
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It'd require trades. Not that easy to pull off. It's a transitional year... I'm just hoping we won't be fucked with the upcoming FA period.
 
The Frankman said:
Hack-A-Howard in effect!

Lets be real then, what do you think their problem is?
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I just told you, they're offense is inconsistent without amare at best - even when he's on the court they only function if he's playing at an MVP level and their defense isn't stopping anyone who actually knows what they're doing.

But I asked you, don't be stealin my answers.
 
Gabyskra said:
It'd require trades. Not that easy to pull off. It's a transitional year... I'm just hoping we won't be fucked with the upcoming FA period.
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DY_nasty said:
They're a fundamentally broken team like the Bobcats of last year (except the whole beating good teams part). Most of their losses are self-inflicted, but they haven't done anything to fix those issues yet and don't seem to be willing to fix them aside from Plan Omicron: Get Carmelo for Chandler and Douglas.
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Yes, lets just wait for things to fall from the sky instead of actually addressing issues like everyone else.
The Crimson Blur said:
Thats not a dagger. The game was over a minute before that.

They are just stretching this out to piss me off.
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The game was over early in the 3rd...
 
Gabyskra said:
It'd require trades. Not that easy to pull off. It's a transitional year... I'm just hoping we won't be fucked with the upcoming FA period.
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Even if the Knicks land Melo, it won't fix what's fundamentally wrong with every D'Antoni team. Hint: Scoring is not the problem, Knicks have the #1 offense in the league.
 
Poor Knicks :( I really thought they had a shot here too, Amar'e is MVP for sure though and Chandler was godlike. Better luck next time!
 
Knicks are 24th in defensive rating. They also give up 106.5PPG (3rd worst in the league). They're also 8-7 at home, highlighting their inconsistency and lack of focus. That's why they lose.
 
I just told you, they're offense is inconsistent without amare at best - even when he's on the court they only function if he's playing at an MVP level and their defense isn't stopping anyone who actually knows what they're doing.
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I know their D isn't great, but if you play D when it matters you can survive in this offense. the problem is when they don't shoot well. They have guys who are okay on D (Fields, Douglas, Chandler, you know Felton isn't bad), but they have no bench depth to speak of, meaning Amar'e has to play 40+ minutes and score a shitton. When Chandler is driving the rock he's very good, however his shot selection (taking 3's) is iffy. Gallo is much better at getting to the line this year.
Knicks have the #1 offense in the league.
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Highest scoring team != #1 offense.
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Even if the Knicks land Melo, it won't fix what's fundamentally wrong with every D'Antoni team. Hint: Scoring is not the problem, Knicks have the #1 offense in the league.
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The thing is, even when they go cold and know they're cold, they don't really adjust to make up for it. They keep that same tempo regardless of whats going on their end of the court and end up digging holes even deeper by just banging their head against a wall. Its fucking stupid and they always do it. When they magically get hot, its fun to watch and all that but when it doesn't work it just makes you shake your head.
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Even if the Knicks land Melo, it won't fix what's fundamentally wrong with every D'Antoni team. Hint: Scoring is not the problem, Knicks have the #1 offense in the league.
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Actually 7th best going by Offensive Rating. But yeah.
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Even if the Knicks land Melo, it won't fix what's fundamentally wrong with every D'Antoni team. Hint: Scoring is not the problem, Knicks have the #1 offense in the league.
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It would improve the team, redistribute roles... I can see players adapt their game to the hierarchy. Douglas has stepped up his defense, so did Gallinari to a small extent (poor Chandler is getting abused day in day out playing out of position), the problem is, they're missing a tough interior defender and another on the perimeter (Fields really isn't the one, at least for now). You just don't refuse the opportunity to sign a top 5 talent like Melo. Would it be enough? Certainly not, but that'd be a huge step in the right direction, allowing for the pursuing of very secondary pieces to a championship team. I'm still hoping for Randolph to become as good as Dalembert defensively... I won't complain.

Other teams try to get better during the year? You have what, a third of all the teams, at most, trading players during the season... It's not about a lack of trying, it's just that things are more stable than that in the NBA.
 
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