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[reilo]

Nothing in common?

They're the same organization you dumbass. Nice to know that you can so easily forget a history of taint.

You mean to tell me that Donnie Walsh didn't preside over 29 and 32 win seasons? Oh right, that was all Isaiah's fault, too.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

I like that the Knicks are competitive again. Well, mostly, I like Mike D'Antoni because of his contributions in ending the thugball of the 90s and early 00s. Go Pringles!

 

[masud]

What are you talking about?

You guys are the ones going around blowing loads over beating the Raptors. Hell, chars even went so far as to call the Raptors 'a decent team' and you've got masud quoting Triano :lol

Come on son. No one was blowing a load over beating the raptors. Trolling raps-age? Sure.

 

[reilo]

Come on son. No one was blowing a load over beating the raptors, trolling raps-age? Sure.

What's the difference? Raps-Age trolls themselves more than anyone. So why bother trolling?

 

[charsace]

Nothing in common?

They're the same organization you dumbass. Nice to know that you can so easily forget a history of taint.

No they really aren't dumbass. The knicks are not made up of the same people from those past teams so shut the fuck up dumbass. Isiah isn't running the knicks. The players winning games for us are different players. They aren't the same regime you fucking throat wad. Stop being some eager to troll.

I like how you guys are upset because knicks fans are happy after a win and happy over the win streak.

 

[Sharp]

Hey I didn't say the only reason for the Knicks' loss was "the Raptors are terribad," I gave them credit for their crippling free throw defense against Ed Davis and the deadly arrows of Shawn3 Bradl3y.

 

[Blackface]

Knicks been worse then the Raptors for almost 10 years, now they think trolling us is under them.

Funny, that.

 

[reilo]

No they really aren't dumbass. The knicks are not made up of the same people from those past teams so shut the fuck up dumbass. Isiah isn't running the knicks. The players winning games for us are different players. They aren't the same regime you fucking throat wad. Stop being some eager to troll.

You mean to tell me that Donnie Walsh didn't preside over 29 and 32 win seasons? Oh right, that was all Isaiah's fault, too.

.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

The Knicks are so poorly managed that Artie Fufkin has a good laugh about it.

 

[charsace]

So would you guys prefer it if we made a knicks discussion thread so that we can discuss the knicks since we are a bunch of assholes and you don't want to read about the knicks? You don't like knicks fans posting about the knicks in the NBA thread so might as well let us post our own thread.

 

[DY_nasty]

lol @ knicks-age trying to talk down to raptors fans...

No they really aren't dumbass. The knicks are not made up of the same people from those past teams so shut the fuck up dumbass. Isiah isn't running the knicks. The players winning games for us are different players. They aren't the same regime you fucking throat wad. Stop being some eager to troll.

Its the same dumbass organization. New faces, same taint.

Charlotte's had two playoff franchises since the last time the Knicks were competitive. Bob Johnson and George Shinn did it - it can't be that hard to build a playoff team.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Hey guys, Knicks suck. Okay.

Anyone can answer me this?

"Also, question about the advanced statistic "strength of schedule" - does SOS adjust itself if a team considered bad strengthens and becomes a powerhouse? Like say if the Bobcats, GSW and Raptors went on a streak and became teams over .500...would SOS change to reflect that those teams no longer objectively suck? If SOS fluctuates like that, wouldn't it not be the best stats to use to measure how "good" a team's wins were? Or is this another thing where baseball > basketball because it can never be measured quantitatively without flaws?"

I know everyone in here digs the basketball sabermetrics and non-standard statistical measurements/inferences, so I was wondering what the word is here.

The answer is yes it does fluctuate, and yes that does make it one of the best ways to measure relative record, but if you go around saying that then you're Hollinger and everybody says you're a dummy.

 

[DY_nasty]

So would you guys prefer it if we made a knicks discussion thread so that we can discuss the knicks since we are a bunch of assholes and you don't want to read about the knicks? You don't like knicks fans posting about the knicks in the NBA thread so might as well let us post our own thread.

What? You gonna take your ball and go home?

 

[reilo]

So would you guys prefer it if we made a knicks discussion thread so that we can discuss the knicks since we are a bunch of assholes and you don't want to read about the knicks? You don't like knicks fans posting about the knicks in the NBA thread so might as well let us post our own thread.

No, just be realistic and quit acting like being a couple of games over .500 with a winning margin of +1.4 is the same as winning a championship.

 

[Duki]

so amare stoudemire or raymond felton for mvp this year?

could go either way atm imo

thoughts?

 

[charsace]

No, just be realistic and quit acting like being a couple of games over .500 with a winning margin of +1.4 is the same as winning a championship.

I didn't know being happy that the knicks are playing better than last year is equal to winning a title? I would love to see these posts where knicks fans afe being assholes after a win.

I would prefer a knicks thread. I'm tired of seeing 3+ pages of hate post after every knicks win and even more pages after a loss with Marbury pics thrown in every few posts.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

so amare stoudemire or raymond felton for mvp this year?

could go either way atm imo

thoughts?

Co-MVPs imo

 

[masud]

Knicks been worse then the Raptors for almost 10 years, now they think trolling us is under them.

Funny, that.

That comma should be a period sorry. I'm not above trolling the Raptors, oh no I'm all for it!

No, just be realistic and quit acting like being a couple of games over .500 with a winning margin of +1.4 is the same as winning a championship.

Again, who is doing this?

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

What's the difference? Raps-Age trolls themselves more than anyone. So why bother trolling?

While we're on the topic, anybody want a used and slightly broken Linas Kleiza? He's a bargain at only 19 million until 2014.

 

[reilo]

I didn't know being happy that the knicks are playing better than last year is equal to winning a title? I would love to see these posts where knicks fans afe being assholes after a win.

You guys just admitted to trolling the Raptors after your win two posts up. Come the fuck on dude.

EDIT: And as soon as I post that:

I'm not above trolling the Raptors, oh no I'm all for it!

 

[Branduil]

I think Amar'''e going to NY was a smart move. After the Phoenix fanbase began to have a realistic view of him, he can again be overrated for years by the NY fanbase.

 

[DY_nasty]

While we're on the topic, anybody want a used and slightly broken Linas Kleiza? He's a bargain at only 19 million until 2014.

JAX for Kleiza and some pick$

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

I didn't know being happy that the knicks are playing better than last year is equal to winning a title? I would love to see these posts where knicks fans afe being assholes after a win.

It usually involves Frankman, wrestling jokes nobody gets, and Captainmcblack. It's all good though. If you can't act like a knob after a win, what is this thread for?

 

[Duki]

You guys just admitted to trolling the Raptors after your win two posts up. Come the fuck on dude.

honestly the worst i saw being said was that the knicks had a decent win over a joke team

and can anyone even argue that the raps arent a joke team? i mean damn they lost to the knicks

 

[DY_nasty]

It usually involves Frankman, wrestling jokes nobody gets, and Captainmcblack. It's all good though. If you can't act like a knob after a win, what is this thread for?

At least troll with pride.

I still got Lakers-age shook.

 

[Sharp]

so amare stoudemire or raymond felton for mvp this year?

could go either way atm imo

thoughts?

Top five are clear IMO:

1. Blake Griffin
2. Manu Ginobli
3. Blake Griffin
4. A'm'a'r'e Stoudemire
5. John Wall

Spoiler

6. Blake Griffin

 

[reilo]

It usually involves Frankman, wrestling jokes nobody gets, and Captainmcblack. It's all good though. If you can't act like a knob after a win, what is this thread for?

Yeah, but acting like a knob towards the Raptors after a win with Bargnani as their number one option is like acting like a knob towards that slow cousin of yours that used to hide in a corner as he crapped his diapers at six years of age.

 

[captmcblack]

I am a troll in this thread? For real? :lol

 

[Branduil]

Top five are clear IMO:

1. Blake Grifin
2. Manu Ginobli
3. Blake Griffin
4. A'm'a'r'e Stoudemire
5. John Wall

Spoiler

6. Blake Griffin

You forgot Griffin, Blake.

 

[charsace]

It usually involves Frankman, wrestling jokes nobody gets, and Captainmcblack. It's all good though. If you can't act like a knob after a win, what is this thread for?

What I love is that reilo is talking shit when he was talking about multiple titles after the Blazers drafted Oden. Knicks fans being happy after a win is, "out of order," and "acting like we one a title."

 

[masud]

You guys just admitted to trolling the Raptors after your win two posts up. Come the fuck on dude.

EDIT: And as soon as I post that:

Raptor fans troll the Knicks all the time (some of them are doing it right now), talking shit after a win is not the same thing as overhyping, far from it.

It's all good though. If you can't act like a knob after a win, what is this thread for?

Exactly.

 

[DY_nasty]

btw, told yal so about Wall.

I am a troll in this thread? For real? :lol

That was compliment from LFK. You're good.:lol

 

[reilo]

What I love is that reilo is talking shit when he was talking about multiple titles after the Blazers drafted Oden. Knicks fans being happy after a win is, "out of order," and "acting like we one a title."

Eh, what? No I didn't. Hell, I was even one of the only people in here that thought Portland would lose in the first round to the Rockets and be lucky to win a single game against them that year -- and they were lucky with that OT buzzer beater by Roy. I didn't write down multiple titles right off the bat. Gtfo.

 

[KingGondo]

So a guy that been on the all NBA team multiple times and has finished top 10 in the MVP voting multiple times isn't a max player? News to me.

Amar'e is a more athletic version of David Lee who scores more and rebounds less.

Lee is not a max player, so why should Amar'e be?

 

[Sharp]

You forgot Griffin, Blake.

That's STAT, he too is Blake Griffin, only older and perhaps a little wiser.

btw, told yal so about Wall.

MVP

 

[masud]

Knicks age is is a pretty level headed group imo. Yall don't know Knick fans like I know Knick fans. Trust me it could be much worse.

 

[charsace]

Eh, what? No I didn't. Hell, I was even one of the only people in here that thought Portland would lose in the first round to the Rockets and be lucky to win a single game against them that year. I didn't write down multiple titles right off the bat. Gtfo.

Yeah, you did. The season after you guys drafted oden you talking made shit. I think the blazers had like 32 wins the first season Oden missed. You were updating that off season thread regularly, telling us how Oden was 275+ lbs and put on a ton of muscle. You were talking about 14 and 10 for Oden and how the blazers would win multiple titles with Oden, Roy and LMA.

Deny it now though.

Amar'e is a more athletic version of David Lee who scores more and rebounds less.

Lee is not a max player, so why should Amar'e be?

Why were you desperate to get Amare at the trade deadline last season? Lee and Amare are nothing a like. Amare would be the best player on your team right now based on the season so far.

 

[captmcblack]

Amar'e is a more athletic version of David Lee who scores more and rebounds less.

Lee is not a max player, so why should Amar'e be?

Because the market dictated it.

 

[charsace]

Because the market dictated it.

Ignore him. he was sucking Amare's dick last season and Amare wasn't even on his team.

 

[reilo]

Yeah, you did. The season after you guys drafted oden you talking made shit. I think the blazers had like 32 wins the first season Oden missed. You were updating that off season thread regularly, telling us how Oden was 275+ lbs and put on a ton of muscle. You were talking about 14 and 10 for Oden and how the blazers would win multiple titles with Oden, Roy and LMA.

Deny it now though.

Portland won 41 games the season Oden missed due to microfracture. I did hype up Oden, but I didn't guarantee multiple rings. When healthy, Oden put up better than 14-10 with ease. In fact, my projection for this team has always been...

2009: Get to the playoffs, anything else is gravy, and, specifically before the season started I stated that Houston was their worst matchup in the playoffs that I didn't want Portland to face
2010: Get out of the first round, anything else is gravy
2011: Contend for the WCF

Injuries have put that on hold, for now I hope, basically, and not because of lack of talent.

 

[Sharp]

Knicks age is is a pretty level headed group imo. Yall don't know Knick fans like I know Knick fans. Trust me it could be much worse.

I know how Knicks fans would be if they won all the time, because I have Boombloxer as a reference point.

Why are we spending so much time talking about the Knicks anyway, we should be talking about the Bulls-Thunder matchup or something. Durant gets no press anymore

 

[KingGondo]

Knicks age is is a pretty level headed group imo. Yall don't Knick fans like I know Knick fans. Trust me it could be much worse.

Hezbollah-age is a pretty level headed group imo. Yall don't know militant Islamic extremists like I know militant Islamic extremists. Trust me, it could be much worse.

Because the market dictated it.

Don't get me wrong, Amar'e is a nice player. But he is not the missing piece on a championship squad, or a guy who can take your franchise to new heights. He's a volume-scoring PF with below-average rebounding skills who needs an elite PG to reach his potential.

And even then he's a liability on defense.

Knicks wouldn't have been any worse off re-signing Lee.

 

[charsace]

Portland won 41 games the season Oden missed due to microfracture. I did hype up Oden, but I didn't guarantee multiple rings. When healthy, Oden put up better than 14-10 with ease. In fact, my projection for this team has always been...

2009: Get to the playoffs, anything else is gravy, and, specifically before the season started I stated that Houston was their worst matchup in the playoffs that I didn't want Portland to face
2010: Get out of the first round, anything else is gravy
2011: Contend for the WCF

Injuries have put that on hold, for now I hope, basically, and not because of lack of talent.

No, this isn't what you were saying. I remember you talking about dynasty and Lakers fans arguing with you that Bynum would be better because he was also packing on muscle.

 

[DY_nasty]

IN OTHER DY_DIVINEKARMA NEWS: SUCK IT NEW ORLEANS

Hornets owner George Shinn has agreed to sell the team to the NBA and the transaction could be completed within a couple days, according to a source.

The league has hired New Orleans-born sports attorney Jac Sperling to be the NBA's administrator of the team and oversee its sale to a more permanent owner.

Hornets president Hugh Weber will continue overseeing day-to-day operations of what will be the first NBA team to be owned by the league.

Shinn has been in negotiations to sell the team to minority owner and Louisiana native Gary Chouest since last spring, but talks have been stalled for months.

Justice.

 

[reilo]

No, this isn't what you were saying. I remember you talking about dynasty and Lakers fans arguing with you that Bynum would be better because he was also packing on muscle.

No, that was exactly what I've been saying for years. I hyped up Oden, I'll give you that, but I didn't say multiple championships were guaranteed and that timeline I posted above is the exact timeline I've espoused for years. That obviously changed in the past six months to a year due to a million severe injuries -- and not because of lack of talent.

Don't get me wrong, Amar'e is a nice player. But he is not the missing piece on a championship squad, or a guy who can take your franchise to new heights. He's a volume-scoring PF with below-average rebounding skills who needs an elite PG to reach his potential.

And even then he's a liability on defense.

Knicks wouldn't have been any worse off re-signing Lee.

The Suns couldn't get to the finals with some of the most stacked teams in the past decade and arguably the best point guard at the time, and yet somehow Amare and Felton are a core to build around?

 

[captmcblack]

Don't get me wrong, Amar'e is a nice player. But he is not the missing piece on a championship squad, or a guy who can take your franchise to new heights. He's a volume-scoring PF with below-average rebounding skills who needs an elite PG to reach his potential.

And even then he's a liability on defense.

Knicks wouldn't have been any worse off re-signing Lee.

Does that mean Felton is an elite PG?

 

[Zep]

Don't get me wrong, Amar'e is a nice player. But he is not the missing piece on a championship squad, or a guy who can take your franchise to new heights. He's a volume-scoring PF with below-average rebounding skills who needs an elite PG to reach his potential.

And even then he's a liability on defense.

Knicks wouldn't have been any worse off re-signing Lee.

I know what you're saying but looking at it from their POV, you don't deliberately tank two seasons just to re-sign Lee. Would have been hilarious if they actually waited on Lebron before signing anyone else.

 

[reilo]

To reiterate, the Suns in their prime had four All-NBA level players on their team (Nash, Johnson, Marion, Amare) in their prime and couldn't get to the finals.

How many other teams had a team that stacked? Boston? Lakers sure as hell didn't. Nobody is going to give Odom, Bynum, and Artest any All-NBA love today. Spurs? Not even them.

But nope, Felton and an aging Amare are the core to build around.

 

[Gabyskra]

The Suns couldn't get to the finals with some of the most stacked teams in the past decade and arguably the best point guard at the time, and yet somehow Amare and Felton are a core to build around?

I'll take Amare and Felton as my #2 and #3 guys any time. Especially with the depth of the roster as it is now. Melo would fit in so well in this system that you'd hear me talk about multiple championships like I'm a Raptors fan who just drafted Ed Brick Davis.

 

[Sharp]

Does that mean Felton is an elite PG?

Well, according to advanced $tats he's got a ways to go before he catches up with, say, Jameer Nelson or Shannon Brown, but he's got heart!

Spoiler

No, but only because the PG position is pretty deep right now.