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[giri]

I´m not buying those financial numbers. Sure, it´s official, but so were Enron´s.

Even if we buy in to those numbers, those owners are supposed to be billionaires, and they should spend some money on their "toys".

Spoken like a Californian Voter.

I thought Amare was always a black hole on offense and that's why he sucks, Advanced STAT/David Lee/Chris Bosh/insert PF here is better, etc.

For the record, it was Knick fans that said Lee was better. They said it all last year. I :lol 'd

But don't let that ruin your fun.

I hate that goddamn team. Their fans make eternal enemies out of anyone who looks at them the wrong way, their tempo's akin to waterbeetles crawling in molasses, Miller's face reminds me of Bowen, and the list just keeps getting bigger the more I see them on national television.

My filthiest dream is to see the Suns take Oden and turn him into a beast while the Portland schmucks cuddle next to their smear campaigns with tears in their eyes.

I'm not sure whether suns-age just got a branduil, or a pimpwrex.

Funny, sounds like you're describing BrightSideOfTheSun. In fact, that blog owner ended up banning a ton of Blazer fans for no reason. Stay classy!

Here, let me give you a cup for your bitter tears. They sound delicious.

Valley of the suns is the suns best blog site. The guys on there really try to be only a little homer.

 

[SamuraiX-]

Contract the Bobcats and Clippers.

Move the Kings to Las Vegas. Move the Hornets to Kansas City, St. Louis or Seattle. Get the Nets into Brooklyn already. NBA is fixed.

Except Vegas has one of the worst economies in the world right now and there isn't anybody in Kansas City who can/will buy an NBA team (which is a shame because they have a nice arena already built).

 

[giri]

Except Vegas has one of the worst economies in the world right now and there isn't anybody in Kansas City who can/will buy an NBA team (which is a shame because they have a nice arena already built).

I think Charloette might actually kill a bitch if stern contracted the bobcats.

 

[SamuraiX-]

I think Charloette might actually kill a bitch if stern contracted the bobcats.

Let's hope it's a hooker so DY finally has one to stash in Larry Brown's office.

 

[The Frankman]

For the record, it was Knick fans that said Lee was better. They said it all last year. I :lol 'd

Point out the Knicks fan and the post. There are things Lee does better (rebound, dexterity, possibly basketball IQ), but Amar'e is a better player.

 

[giri]

Point out the Knicks fan and the post. There are things Lee does better (rebound, dexterity, possibly basketball IQ), but Amar'e is a better player.

Thats exactly what i'm going to do, go back through the 100's of thouands of posts from last years NBA threads, to find posts by knick fans.

I don't care that much.

 

[DY_nasty]

Contract the Bobcats and Clippers.

Move the Kings to Las Vegas. Move the Hornets to Kansas City, St. Louis or Seattle. Get the Nets into Brooklyn already. NBA is fixed.

How about you contract the Knicks? The Clippers have been to the post-season this decade and Charlotte has had two different teams in the playoffs since the Knicks were last relevant. Both have better arenas too.

The premise doesn't work, because it not only hurts the players, it removes a major bargaining chip for teams. Specifically, the ability to offer a real multiyear deal.

Doesn't stop the NFL.

 

[DCX]

Thats exactly what i'm going to do, go back through the 100's of thouands of posts from last years NBA threads, to find posts by knick fans.

I don't care that much.

do it.

DCX

 

[Herpes Reasons]

Because then you'd have to root for the Clippers. Or the Los Angeles Hornets of Anaheim.

orange county is one of the richest counties in the country. you know how many fine looking white chicks we got? why do you think kobe chose the OC as his residence? it sure wasn't the pirate ship in his backyard. do it mitch.

 

[Squall ASF]

I don't know how anyone can enjoy a team score all of their points from the freethrow line.

*Oden over KD* U mad?

j/k I namely enjoy witnessing the franchise's success. It really bothers me when a large market just buys an allstar or rips off another team in a trade. Seattle found itself full of scrubs and started the rebuild process slowly over multiple drafts. I really respect that young team and I like KD a lot. Westbrook's development has been enjoyable to watch as well. I just wish they were on the East coast so that I could root for them to win save when they play the Suns.

 

[captmcblack]

How about you contract the Knicks? The Clippers have been to the post-season this decade and Charlotte has had two different teams in the playoffs since the Knicks were last relevant. Both have better arenas too.

Knicks fans actually support their team and go to games/watch them on TV/buy their merch so that they make money. Apparently, that isn't the same for the Nyets/Bobcats/Kings/Clips/Hornets...

The Knicks should actually take one of those teams as a minor league team. Maybe then we could have more good players/better signings :lol

 

[giri]

*Oden over KD* U mad?

j/k I namely enjoy witnessing the franchise's success. It really bothers me when a large market just buys an allstar or rips off another team in a trade. Seattle found itself full of scrubs and started the rebuild process slowly over multiple drafts. I really respect that young team and I like KD a lot. Westbrook's development has been enjoyable to watch as well. I just wish they were on the East coast so that I could root for them to win save when they play the Suns.

Thunder games are horrible to sit through this year, when you compare them to last year.

Last year they were a good defensive team that was genuinely entertaining. Will KD keep his streak of 30pt games alive? will ibaka commit a out of this world ridiculously athletic stupid foul? This year its just FT practice mixed in with some pick up play.

 

[charsace]

How about you contract the Knicks? The Clippers have been to the post-season this decade and Charlotte has had two different teams in the playoffs since the Knicks were last relevant. Both have better arenas too.

Doesn't stop the NFL.

Dumb much? The knicks make money.

 

[Sharp]

Doesn't stop the NFL.

Just about the only two things I know about the NFL are that Haynesworth is borderline retarded and the NFL is a terribly run organization.

orange county is one of the richest counties in the country. you know how many fine looking white chicks we got? why do you think kobe chose the OC as his residence? it sure wasn't the pirate ship in his backyard. do it mitch.

Oh, you.

Also, I'm pretty sure that despite everything the Clippers are profitable. Sterling just doesn't invest the money back into the team.

 

[Adam Blade]

The Clippers are one of the few profitable teams. Contraction is definitely not in the books for them.

 

[diehard]

Uh oh guys, if Millsap has another big night tonight, pimpwerx is going to break his TV.

 

[SamuraiX-]

Tyreke Evans still playing through plantar fasciitis

LOS ANGELES - Like Tyreke Evans, I stayed in Southern California for another day, but for very different reasons.

Evans stayed to have his left foot examined. He's been dealing with plantar fasciitis in the foot much of this season.

The word I've received is Evans is not expected to miss any games and that continued rehab is the plan.

I'm still in Southern California working on a story about John Wall in advance of tomorrow night's game.

Picked up some interesting tidbits about DeMarcus Cousins from Wall and Clippers guard Eric Bledsoe in the last couple of days.

I really don't understand why they don't just let him rest for 6-8 weeks and bring him back after he's fully rehabbed. The team isn't going anywhere this season and if he continues aggravating the injury he could potentially have to sit out for months before he completely recovers.

 

[DY_nasty]

Knicks fans actually support their team and go to games/watch them on TV/buy their merch so that they make money. Apparently, that isn't the same for the Nyets/Bobcats/Kings/Clips/Hornets...

The Knicks should actually take one of those teams as a minor league team. Maybe then we could have more good players/better signings :lol

Bobcats attendance is just fine. Especially for an expansion team with a guy who punches out fans as their team captain and a Hall of Fame coach who surprisingly hates basketball.

Knicks made a ton a of money selling paper bags and tickets to the NBA draft in the last couple of years though.

 

[DY_nasty]

Just about the only two things I know about the NFL are that Haynesworth is borderline retarded and the NFL is a terribly run organization.

I've got my issues with the NFL, but its run better than every other major sport in America.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I'm starting to finally, truly believe that CJ Miles is on his way to becoming elite. He's had too many 20-5-5-2-1 games this year for me to think they might be flukes. The Miami Heat will get to witness the CJ Miles Experience tonight (50/50 chance anyway). Now if only he had a post-up game so defenses couldn't put SGs on Deron...

 

[captmcblack]

The Clips should move to Anaheim then, and increase their profit...maybe change their mojo a little since they will forever be the lovable loser brother to the Lakers.

Los Angeles Clippers of Anaheim?
Anaheim Clippers?

Is the economy of Sacramento all that right now, either? I thought the Kings were in very recent danger of being sold?

 

[Branduil]

I've got my issues with the NFL, but its run better than every other major sport in America.

Well, unlike baseball and basketball, the NFL has pretty effective parity.

 

[charsace]

Bobcats attendance is just fine. Especially for an expansion team with a guy who punches out fans as their team captain and a Hall of Fame coach who surprisingly hates basketball.

Knicks made a ton a of money selling paper bags and tickets to the NBA draft in the last couple of years though.

Funny guy. The knicks making money has saved a few teams so far.

Well, unlike baseball and basketball, the NFL has pretty effective parity.

NFL has front office structure that MLB lacks and is more team focused than the NBA in play and in how teams are marketed.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Well, unlike baseball and basketball, the NFL has pretty effective parity.

Lots of different teams win titles in Baseball. The NBA only has terrible parity because the amount of players per team is so low that two incredible players can win tons of titles whereas you need like eight to ten great players in baseball and 15+ in football.

 

[DY_nasty]

Funny guy. The knicks making money has saved a few teams so far.

Good thing they've got all that money to fix MSG.

Oh wait

 

[Branduil]

Lots of different teams win titles in Baseball. The NBA only has terrible parity because the amount of players per team is so low that two incredible players can win tons of titles whereas you need like eight to ten great players in baseball and 15+ in football.

Yeah, lots of teams win in baseball, but you can still basically guarantee yourself a postseason berth by spending like the Yankees.

 

[Squall ASF]

Thunder games are horrible to sit through this year, when you compare them to last year.

Last year they were a good defensive team that was genuinely entertaining. Will KD keep his streak of 30pt games alive? will ibaka commit a out of this world ridiculously athletic stupid foul? This year its just FT practice mixed in with some pick up play.

I think we'll see that same team come late this season but the FT's are a fair point and seem to follow any superstar in this league. KD and Lebron especially. With a playoff series under their belt, I'd be terribly disappointed if they didn't come out fierce in this years' series. Unless they are playing us, ofcourse.

 

[Branduil]

I think we'll see that same team come late this season but the FT's are a fair point and seem to follow any superstar in this league. KD and Lebron especially. With a playoff series under their belt, I'd be terribly disappointed if they didn't come out fierce in this years' series. Unless they are playing us, ofcourse.

It's unlikely OKC will have the 1st or 2nd seed.

 

[DY_nasty]

Lots of different teams win titles in Baseball. The NBA only has terrible parity because the amount of players per team is so low that two incredible players can win tons of titles whereas you need like eight to ten great players in baseball and 15+ in football.

No, its because in the NBA, one mistake in building the foundation of the team will fuck a franchise for 4 years. And GMs, not content with letting a sinking ship sink, will make the issue worse by trying patch up a mistake with even more bad contracts.

It can take the better part of a decade to clean out an NBA team.

In the NFL, it can be done immediately after the season. A team can clean house and have a brand new roster and style of play in just two seasons.

 

[lawlohwhat]

I hate that goddamn team. Their fans make eternal enemies out of anyone who looks at them the wrong way, their tempo's akin to waterbeetles crawling in molasses, Miller's face reminds me of Bowen, and the list just keeps getting bigger the more I see them on national television.

My filthiest dream is to see the Suns take Oden and turn him into a beast while the Portland schmucks cuddle next to their smear campaigns with tears in their eyes.

dude... bro... dude...

 

[Squall ASF]

It's unlikely OKC will have the 1st or 2nd seed.

Well played, sir. Alas, Mavs are playing too well for a retort.

 

[diehard]

I'm starting to finally, truly believe that CJ Miles is on his way to becoming elite. He's had too many 20-5-5-2-1 games this year for me to think they might be flukes. The Miami Heat will get to witness the CJ Miles Experience tonight (50/50 chance anyway). Now if only he had a post-up game so defenses couldn't put SGs on Deron...

He's had like 3 nice games. If he's becoming "elite" then it's the Raymond Felton kind of "elite".

 

[SamuraiX-]

Is the economy of Sacramento all that right now, either? I thought the Kings were in very recent danger of being sold?

You mean this?

The attendance rates for ARCO Arena didn't start dropping until about two years ago. If the team shows even possible signs of being able to contend for the PlayOffs in the future, tickets will start selling.

 

[Branduil]

Well played, sir. Alas, Mavs are playing too well for a retort.

Well, I'm just being realistic. OKC is 7th and Phoenix 8th right now. I don't think either team is going to get a top 4 seed.

The good news is if you play us you still have a good chance of advancing.

He's had like 3 nice games. If he's becoming "elite" then it's the Raymond Felton kind of "elite".

Or Devin Harris elite.

 

[Sharp]

No, its because in the NBA, one mistake in building the foundation of the team will fuck a franchise for 4 years. And GMs, not content with letting a sinking ship sink, will make the issue worse by trying patch up a mistake with even more bad contracts.

It can take the better part of a decade to clean out an NBA team.

In the NFL, it can be done immediately after the season. A team can clean house and have a brand new roster and style of play in just two seasons.

That's kind of the nature of the NBA though, or any other sport where individual players have so much of an impact. If the NBA played only sixteen games in the regular season and held one-game playoff series I guarantee you there would be a lot more "parity" as well. I know that doesn't seem like a fair comparison, but consider a scenario where football players didn't get injured every other second and had the energy to play games as frequently as the NBA does. How much parity do you really think there would be? I submit that there would be far less than there is in the NBA. Of course, neither of those compare to individual sports like tennis where some dominant athletes (e.g. Federer) can go through the entire season without dropping more than 3 matches and where two players (Nadal and Federer) have combined to win all but four Slams dating back to 2003 or so.

 

[Squall ASF]

Well, I'm just being realistic. OKC is 7th and Phoenix 8th right now. I don't think either team is going to get a top 4 seed.

The good news is if you play us you still have a good chance of advancing.

Ofcourse, many fans didn't (and still don't) expect us to make the playoffs this year. I always felt that we would but we are a bubble team. If we work out a nice chemistry make up, I think we could actually be a higher seed than many expect but it's too early to say. We've had a really brutal schedule thus far to start the season so there's potential to win a lot of games. No way OKC stays that low, it's not completely outside the realm of possiblity for a 4th and 5th seed scenario. Again, far too early to predict. Probably more like a 6th seed for us best case scenario.

 

[DY_nasty]

That's kind of the nature of the NBA though, or any other sport where individual players have so much of an impact. If the NBA played only sixteen games in the regular season and held one-game playoff series I guarantee you there would be a lot more "parity" as well. I know that doesn't seem like a fair comparison, but consider a scenario where football players didn't get injured every other second and had the energy to play games as frequently as the NBA does. How much parity do you really think there would be? I submit that there would be far less than there is in the NBA. Of course, neither of those compare to individual sports like tennis where some dominant athletes (e.g. Federer) can go through the entire season without dropping more than 3 matches and where two players (Nadal and Federer) have combined to win all but four Slams dating back to 2003 or so.

Parity has nothing to do with individual players over the course of x schedule and everything to do with teams being able to hold on to talent and essentially keeping and growing their in house talent while other teams must play their hand perfectly to get that same plateau.

 

[charsace]

Yeah, lots of teams win in baseball, but you can still basically guarantee yourself a postseason berth by spending like the Yankees.

No, not really. The mets haven't guaranteed anything and they also spend a lot.

 

[Branduil]

No, not really. The mets haven't guaranteed anything and they also spend a lot.

That's because they're the Mets.

 

[Sharp]

Parity has nothing to do with individual players over the course of x schedule and everything to do with teams being able to hold on to talent and essentially keeping and growing their in house talent while other teams must play their hand perfectly to get that same plateau.

Sure... it encourages dynasties. But it's not like it is in the MLB where big-market cities hold a huge advantage over the small-market ones, it's really all about choosing wisely in the draft. If you do it wrong you land in mediocrity-age and get fucked, but those same rules helped teams like the Spurs win a bunch of rings. And at least they make an effort to give teams every opportunity by having half the teams land in the playoffs and the lottery system making sure you can be mediocre and still get a great pick.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Uh oh guys, if Millsap has another big night tonight, pimpwerx is going to break his TV.

Does Milsap play football?

 

[diehard]

Does Milsap play football?

Seriously, i didn't know the Dolphins played tonight.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

I have to admit that I actually like the Dolphins ahead of any other pro sports teams too...

 

[giri]

Ofcourse, many fans didn't (and still don't) expect us to make the playoffs this year. I always felt that we would but we are a bubble team. If we work out a nice chemistry make up, I think we could actually be a higher seed than many expect but it's too early to say. We've had a really brutal schedule thus far to start the season so there's potential to win a lot of games. No way OKC stays that low, it's not completely outside the realm of possiblity for a 4th and 5th seed scenario. Again, far too early to predict. Probably more like a 6th seed for us best case scenario.

Unless the suns somehow land a BIG free agent (trade with the grizz for either Gasol or Z-Bo, they need depth off the bench, suns can give them a bunch of wings!), there's no real point in going to the play offs other than to say "we made the play offs".

 

[DY_nasty]

Sure... it encourages dynasties. But it's not like it is in the MLB where big-market cities hold a huge advantage over the small-market ones, it's really all about choosing wisely in the draft. If you do it wrong you land in mediocrity-age and get fucked, but those same rules helped teams like the Spurs win a bunch of rings. And at least they make an effort to give teams every opportunity by having half the teams land in the playoffs and the lottery system making sure you can be mediocre and still get a great pick.

Drafting in the NBA actually works pretty well in comparison to other sports. Fixed contracts relative to draft position, restricted free agency, team options - its the contract after where things are just ass backwards.

 

[Sharp]

Drafting in the NBA actually works pretty well in comparison to other sports. Fixed contracts relative to draft position, restricted free agency, team options - its the contract after where things are just ass backwards.

Sure... but it's not really Stern's fault that GMs make dumb decisions.

 

[charsace]

Unless the suns somehow land a BIG free agent (trade with the grizz for either Gasol or Z-Bo, they need depth off the bench, suns can give them a bunch of wings!), there's no real point in going to the play offs other than to say "we made the play offs".

There is little to no chance of anyone getting Marc Gasol in a trade. All anyone can do is price the grizz out in the off season.

 

[DY_nasty]

Sure... but it's not really Stern's fault that GMs make dumb decisions.

True.

But at the same time, if a new CBA will bring more parity then I'll smile about it. Dumb ass refs be damned.

 

[giri]

There is little to no chance of anyone getting Marc Gasol in a trade. All anyone can do is price the grizz out in the off season.

Oh i know, it would be hillarious though, for everyone but grizz fans. But they have to decide who they're keeping soon, Mayo or Z-bo, if they're not going to renew Z-bo, we'll take him, for a half season rental. in return give up childress & hedo or sometihng like that.

 

[Sharp]

I think one interesting question is, if there were no guaranteed contracts, what incentive would players have to sign for more than one year at a time? Other than as a gesture of loyalty, it would really mean nothing anymore; they couldn't make out like bandits on underperforming in the later years of contracts because teams would simply cut them once they got too expensive, and if they got better or became dissatisfied with their current team one season they could always sign with a different one. I'm not sure that would result in more parity.