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Forceatowulf said:
How is it impressive to win games you're supposed to win? Games most people predicted you would?

Take the W and move on. It's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be.
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...come on Force

that one went way over your head.
 
Forceatowulf said:
How is it impressive to win games you're supposed to win? Games most people predicted you would?

Take the W and move on. It's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be.
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Son you just got trolled.
 
MiamiWesker said:
Yes it is, we were really playing crappy at times against all kinds of teams, great ones, bad ones, average ones. The team was a mess for a while and we are now playing much more consistent and it looks some what like a TEAM, not a bunch of guys trying to do shit on the court.

This does not mean we won't lose against better teams. this doesn't mean we won't ever have a bad game. It just means we found some rhythm we didn't have before.
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Yeah, its a second preseason. Your supposed to look a lot better and build up a rhythm over a stretch like that. Just realize that being down 10pts to the cavs for stretch of time isn't a good look for any team. Especially Miami.

I actually think that Miami will sneak one out against LA later this month, but if they're sipping the same kool-aid that their fans are they're going to get smacked.
 
Forceatowulf said:
How is it impressive to win games you're supposed to win? Games most people predicted you would?

Take the W and move on. It's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be.
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^Civilian casualties
 
The Crimson Blur said:
...come on Force

that one went way over your head.
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ugh. My sarcasm detector needs a little oiling. *sigh*

Reading all these Heat fan posts tonight knocked me off balance. I can't tell which is real and which is fake. Time for sleep.
 
KS Seven X said:
Is Rambis employing that zone? I remember he was in charge of the Lakers defense the last year he was there. The opposing teams get so many 3s, and there is too much help D when it's not needed.

I'm glad Rambis didn't stay to take over.
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It's not a zone, but you nailed it. The scheme is pack the paint, everybody help on everything. It's terrible. And today he said the disgusting outside shooting numbers opponents put up aren't that big a deal. What an idiot.
 
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
I like how the Heat are FINALLY clicking yet almost lost to the Cavaliers at home.
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I wouldn't call it almost. Heat were up by 14 at one point late in the fourth quater.

Also, did you forget the almighty Celtics lost to the Cavs?
 
Suns' awful transition D is bailing us out.

Don't think when ESPN scheduled this game they expected 15 total minutes in the first half from Dirk and Nash.
 
DY_nasty said:
They look better as in Wade isn't going 4-12 anymore. But even against the Knicks frontline when Turiaf didn't even play, Bosh couldn't make his presence felt on the boards.

Still, I wonder if New York will eventually practice defense because of this. (they won't)
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Thats because Bosh doesn't understand his role, and never will. Because he is dumb. Dumb. Fucking dumb.
 
siddx said:
Thats because Bosh doesn't understand his role, and never will. Because he is dumb. Dumb. Fucking dumb.
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He's a pussy... Can't fix pussy. Just try to work around it.
 
DancingJesus said:
I wouldn't call it almost. Heat were up by 14 at one point late in the fourth quater.

Also, did you forget the almighty Celtics lost to the Cavs?
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My point is, the Heat play the same as they always have this year.

They just are hitting shots.

They aren't passing the ball any better(don't tell that to ESPN though, that LeClown behind the back pass to a wide open dude will be number one on top plays of the day/week), they don't run any kind of offense, etc...

They have no coaching, etc...

All this will hurt them when it really counts, you can't win on talent and isolation one on one basketball alone.

Maybe they are playing better defensively or something but I honestly don't think the team is doing anything differently scheme-wise.

The Knicks looked even worse in this regard though tonight.
 
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
My point is, the Heat play the same as they always have this year.

They just are hitting shots.

They aren't passing the ball any better(don't tell that to ESPN though, that LeClown behind the back pass to a wide open dude will be number one on top plays of the day/week), they don't run any kind of offense, etc...

They have no coaching, etc...

All this will hurt them when it really counts, you can't win on talent and isolation one on one basketball alone.

Maybe they are playing better defensively or something but I honestly don't think the team is doing anything differently scheme-wise.

The Knicks looked even worse in this regard though tonight.
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I would have to disagree, yes they are hitting their shots better, but it's more than that. The defense has been improved and the pace has been increased tenfold. If you watch the first few Heat games, Arroyo was playing a much more traditional half-court game as point guard. Now - they are abusing teams with fast breaks and speed as evident in the Knick game. As for the defense, the Heat had very poor rebounding statistics in the beginning half of the season, Bosh and Wade have both stepped up in a huge way in that regard.
 
DancingJesus said:
I would have to disagree, yes they are hitting their shots better, but it's more than that. The defense has been improved and the pace has been increased tenfold. If you watch the first few Heat games, Arroyo was playing a much more traditional half-court game as point guard. Now - they are abusing teams with fast breaks and speed as evident in the Knick game.
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They should abuse teams in transition with that athleticism.

Don't tell me Arroyo is part of THIS though???

Maybe he is, haven't noticed.
 
DY_nasty said:
They look better as in Wade isn't going 4-12 anymore. But even against the Knicks frontline when Turiaf didn't even play, Bosh couldn't make his presence felt on the boards.

Still, I wonder if New York will eventually practice defense because of this. (they won't)
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:lol

Might as well wait for DJ to win favor with Larry Brown.

He's a pussy... Can't fix pussy. Just try to work around it.
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Technically, Boston already worked it something fierce. He still can't walk straight.
 
friskykillface said:
i liked and :lol :lol at the overrated chant from the knicks fans when he shot free throws, very true.
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http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2010/11/like-a-bosh-chris-bosh-parody

TheGreatMightyPoo said:
They should abuse teams in transition with that athleticism.

Don't tell me Arroyo is part of THIS though???

Maybe he is, haven't noticed.
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Spoelstra has specifically mentioned that they intended on changing the dynamic of play by increasing the speed of the game. If you see him on the sidelines, he's constantly waving them down the court. He also has emphasized rebounds in practice, and it's pretty evident even in the loss of Haslem.

So I think these two aspects has been the key to the Heat's recent success. Wade shooting a hundred times better doesn't hurt either.
 
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
My point is, the Heat play the same as they always have this year.

They just are hitting shots.

They aren't passing the ball any better(don't tell that to ESPN though, that LeClown behind the back pass to a wide open dude will be number one on top plays of the day/week), they don't run any kind of offense, etc...

They have no coaching, etc...

All this will hurt them when it really counts, you can't win on talent and isolation one on one basketball alone.

Maybe they are playing better defensively or something but I honestly don't think the team is doing anything differently scheme-wise.

The Knicks looked even worse in this regard though tonight.
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The thing that pissed me off was Spoelstra's 'rewards' system where he gives guys the freedom to do whatever the hell they want if they get a stop, grab a rebound, etc. All thats going to do is reinforce dumbassery against a good team. Its absolutely retarded... instead of teaching his guys an actual offense and FORCING them to use it, he gives them an out. Its gonna bite them in the ass, hard.

lol knicks, etc.
 
DancingJesus said:
I would have to disagree, yes they are hitting their shots better, but it's more than that. The defense has been improved and the pace has been increased tenfold. If you watch the first few Heat games, Arroyo was playing a much more traditional half-court game as point guard. Now - they are abusing teams with fast breaks and speed as evident in the Knick game. As for the defense, the Heat had very poor rebounding statistics in the beginning half of the season, Bosh and Wade have both stepped up in a huge way in that regard.
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Regular season =/= playoffs. The game slows down dramatically in the playoffs, they wont be able to run it up and down against Boston. The Heat offense is still basically the same, just the shots are going in now.
 
Red Blaster said:
Regular season =/= playoffs. The game slows down dramatically in the playoffs, they wont be able to run it up and down against Boston. The Heat offense is still basically the sane, just the shots are going in now.
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Of course they could. It's a pretty similar strategy to the Showtime Lakers. They ran up and down the court all day.
 
DancingJesus said:
Of course they could. It's a pretty similar strategy to the Showtime Lakers. They ran up and down the court all day.
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Heat are just like the Showtime Lakers.

Just like Showtime Lakers.
 
DY_nasty said:
Washington, Detroit, Cleveland, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Utah, Golden State, Sacramento, New Orleans, Cleveland again, and New York

Yeah, Miami has arrived
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So are you calling them a mediocre team?
 
DY_nasty said:
Heat are just like the Showtime Lakers.

Just like Showtime Lakers.
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What the fuck, I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth

I said that they intend to use speed like the Showtime Lakers. Execution is something else entirely. Sorry for educated basketball discussion, I guess it isn't permitted here. Need more "lolz knicks".
 
DancingJesus said:
Of course they could. It's a pretty similar strategy to the Showtime Lakers. They ran up and down the court all day.
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The Crimson Blur said:
I still like the Knicks' matchup with the Heat. This game didn't change my mind at all. Lebron hit every jumpshot, Heat got every call (though this may be consistent), Arroyo and Chalmers were ballin', Knicks missed half their FTs, and Amare missed a shit-ton of layups. Felt like a pretty fluky win for the Heat.

If the Knicks make a midseason trade, whether for Melo or for smaller pieces, I think they would do terrific against the Heat.
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This is what makes talking about NBA basketball hard in NBA-GAF. You don't think that had anything to do with great defense?
 
DancingJesus said:
Of course they could. It's a pretty similar strategy to the Showtime Lakers. They ran up and down the court all day.
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I think it's time for a long, cold shower. Then you can sit in the corner for hours and reflect on your sins.
 
DancingJesus said:
What the fuck, I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth

I said that they intend to use speed like the Showtime Lakers. Execution is something else entirely. Sorry for educated basketball discussion, I guess it isn't permitted here. Need more "lolz knicks".
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Who put words in your mouth? :lol

Showtime is a mindstate yo
 
Sharp said:
I think it's time for a long, cold shower. Then you can sit in the corner for hours and reflect on your sins.
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If you actually read what I said rather than interpreting it as something else entirely I would be fine with it.

I never said that they were the Showtime Lakers. Or that they have proved to do anything close to them.

I was simply saying that they aspire to emulate that style of basketball. Morons.
 
mckmas8808 said:
This is what makes talking about NBA basketball hard in NBA-GAF. You don't think that had anything to do with great defense?
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Anthony guarded Amare great tonight.

Nice to know that you can bank on defensive anchor Joel Anthony getting the job done night in and night out though.
 
DancingJesus said:
Of course they could. It's a pretty similar strategy to the Showtime Lakers. They ran up and down the court all day.
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:lol :lol :lol

Yep, that's all they did. Riley never believed in it:

Pat Riley said:
Defense sucks.
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He also said:

Pat Riley said:
There are two states in the NBA: Bliss and Harmony. Both are only achieved by layups and all-nighters.
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Christmas day is going to be so fucking epic. Somebody is going to have a complete meltdown, I can't wait to see if it's a Heat fan or a Laker fan. Either way we all win.

I haven't watched a single Timberwolves game all season, why is their record so shitty? Seems like they should be at least a .400 team with Love and Beasley.
 
Forceatowulf said:
How is it impressive to win games you're supposed to win? Games most people predicted you would?

Take the W and move on. It's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be.
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So why are you so mad the Heat won 11 straight?
 
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