2010/11 NBA Dec |OT| of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7lMXXaUaIo PEACE
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ClovingWestbrook
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DY_nasty said:
I guess I don't understand the mindset. If the Lakers win 50 games and get bumped out of the playoffs, what does the 50 represent? Why not 60 wins? Why not 55?
Justin Timberlake
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ImperialConquest said:
Of course the Spurs are rebuilding. They have 1 player from the 99 championship team, and 3 players from the 2007 one. Everyone else is new. Over the last few seasons, they have been building a young core (Splitter, G-Hill MVP, DeJuan Blair, Gary Neal, etc) to carry them in years to come. Its surreal, but things are panning out just as they did for Manu and Tony; eventually they took over the team and the torch was passed.
The Spurs are not going to drop off a cliff when Duncan and Manu retire. Thats pretty amazing considering the circumstances.
ClovingWestbrook
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The Crimson Blur said:
I now see where your obsession with 50 stems from. That is pretty much all you can hope for in the years to come once Timmy retires.
Not that amazing when you remember that the Spurs have some sort of monopoly on all of the good international players. Sometimes it seems like the Spurs are the only team that has any scouts that watch any games outside of the US.The Crimson Blur said:
Didn't the Spurs have Scola's rights before he went to Houston?
Squall ASF
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The Crimson Blur said:
Yes, but you're making this statement NOW after 4 chips. Some of us are still waiting for that first chip and it doesn't look good in the near future.
Boombloxer
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bionic77 said:
Yep. They get them early, and wait.
But yea, they are going to fall off a cliff when Duncan shuts it down. He sees the light, so does Mamba.
Future PhaZe
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Too early in the season to judge the lake show. We haven't even seen their real lineups...i.e 7 foot front court and Lamar off the bench.
Not only that but I think the front court depth of Joe Smith and Ratliff is being underrated as well, which will give them some extra juice and hasn't really been seen yet.
Are they playing worse than last season thus far? Yes. Mistake me if I'm wrong but they haven't really started a season without the Drew/Pau tandem yet. Drew almost always starts seasons strong with some huge games here and there and then he gets injured close to all star break. So this is something new.
Not only that but I think the front court depth of Joe Smith and Ratliff is being underrated as well, which will give them some extra juice and hasn't really been seen yet.
Are they playing worse than last season thus far? Yes. Mistake me if I'm wrong but they haven't really started a season without the Drew/Pau tandem yet. Drew almost always starts seasons strong with some huge games here and there and then he gets injured close to all star break. So this is something new.
Forceatowulf
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Crimson is the only person I've ever seen claim to be in the middle of a rebuilding process while his team was playing well and their core players, that have won multiple chips together, are still firmly intact.
It's bullshit on top of bullshit on top of bullshit. He knows damn well that the prospect of his team falling apart in the playoffs, as they've done in the last 3 years, is a high probability.
The mans been in preemptive damage control mode for months now. And I've enjoyed it thoroughly.
It's bullshit on top of bullshit on top of bullshit. He knows damn well that the prospect of his team falling apart in the playoffs, as they've done in the last 3 years, is a high probability.
The mans been in preemptive damage control mode for months now. And I've enjoyed it thoroughly.
Justin Timberlake
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LovingSteam said:
Its not about what one season of 50 wins means, its about what a string of them put together means.
To accomplish that, you must be playing high-level basketball for a long, long time. That speaks to the greatness of the organization, coaching, and the players who have made it possible. Winning a ring one season speaks to the greatness of the team that season, but winning over a large span of time speaks to the greatness of the organization.
Winning 50 every year means you were a contender every year. You had a chance every year. As a fan, what more can you ask for?
ClovingWestbrook
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TylerD said:
Understandably since the Thunder have yet to win a playoff series (unless we count Seattle). But once your team gets to the playoffs 4 or 5 years in a row and never gets out of the 1st round, will the 1st round mean anything to you? No. Now realize that for a team like the Spurs who won 4 rings in 8 years, Crimson is basically taking solace in them winning 50 games. That is just weird to me. If the Lakers don't win the championship this year, what solace should I take out of wherever they do end up?
Boombloxer
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Dark FaZe said:
Last year. Pau missed the first 12 games. Bynum carried the load, along with Lamar.
To win it all.
ClovingWestbrook
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The Crimson Blur said:
But the Jazz have that too. They have been consistently good for years and years. The Lakers had that as well if we ignore the 92-95 & 05-07. Look at the Yankee fans. Simply getting to the playoffs or even WS isn't that big of a deal since they consistently accomplish that. Sure, its a may be a fun season but in the big scheme of things, for a franchise that is consistently in the championship or very close to it, 50 wins doesn't mean that much.
The Lakers IMO have the best owner in basketball. They have given the fans an amazing 30 years to say the least. We are spoiled, VERY spoiled. And although the regular season is tons of fun to watch (when they're doing well), simply getting to the playoffs or even winning 50 doesn't mean much.
Edit: Thinking of a core belief of John Wooden, i.e. you're a success if you can look back and say you did your best with what you had, it seems that is what you're looking at. I respect that. If the Lakers get knocked out but they gave their best then there isn't much more I can ask for. HOWEVER; that doesn't mean that as a fan I take comfort in knowing they won however many games.
ClovingWestbrook
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pilonv1 said:
Agreed. But isn't that the case for every season of every sport (except the NFL)? 82 games and its bound to get boring after the initial excitement wears off.
At first it was interesting, we learned that the Heat can't beat anyone good, Boston is the best team in the league, Tyson Chandler is healthy, Spurs are luckiest team in the league, Lakers are surprisingly mediocre, etc. Now there's nothing new to learn. The only thing I'm looking forward to right now is Roddy getting healthy, but I'm sure Carlisle will screw that up.pilonv1 said:
Future PhaZe
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Branduil said:
It's the price you pay for arguably the best post season in sports.
jobber
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pilonv1 said:
Every other season is like that for me. Last time I had championship expectations was 08. Spurs being on pace to break the Bulls record does keep me interested this season...and it's nice to see the Spurs on that salty run back on all those teams that beat em up the last 2 seasons.
Future PhaZe
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holy shit is dwight really about to hit that limit ALREADY?
if memory serves sheed hit that shit in like march
if memory serves sheed hit that shit in like march
Dark FaZe said:
The NCAA tourny is better for the excitement IMO but I have to give major props to the NBA for having every round be a best of 7 series. It is crazy to think that to win a chip in the NBA there is the possibility of having to play 110 games.
NBA playoff basketball is amazing though.
Justin Timberlake
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You guys are consistently misunderstanding one thing from my position: I am not devaluing the worth of an NBA championship. Winning a ring is the ultimate goal. Of course.
To put things in context: after last season I was convinced that the Spurs would not win another championship for a long time to come. So I set expectations. I started looking forward to the rebuilding process. I hoped we would continue the 50 win streak for a couple more years, or at least as long as Duncan is in the league. I started speculating on our young talents growth. Typical non-contender stuff, but things that would make me very proud as a fan.
Now, I am not so sure that we cannot win a ring. I am shocked the Spurs are this good this year. Absolutely stunned. Just like everyone else. 27-4 is on pace for 72 wins ffs. Thats ridiculous. So now I am once again aiming for a championship as the ultimate goal, and not 50 wins. Though, really, I think 50 wins and a championship go hand in hand (one is a prerequisite for the other, basically) so its a moot point.
Whether your team meets or exceeds expectations is where joy derives from in fandom. Before, I had set the expectation at 50 wins and now I am setting it higher. Though that is not to say I would be disappointed with a 50 win season, or that I don't view a year with a long playoff run to be an accomplishment but rather that I now will only be fully satisfied if we win the ring.
To put things in context: after last season I was convinced that the Spurs would not win another championship for a long time to come. So I set expectations. I started looking forward to the rebuilding process. I hoped we would continue the 50 win streak for a couple more years, or at least as long as Duncan is in the league. I started speculating on our young talents growth. Typical non-contender stuff, but things that would make me very proud as a fan.
Now, I am not so sure that we cannot win a ring. I am shocked the Spurs are this good this year. Absolutely stunned. Just like everyone else. 27-4 is on pace for 72 wins ffs. Thats ridiculous. So now I am once again aiming for a championship as the ultimate goal, and not 50 wins. Though, really, I think 50 wins and a championship go hand in hand (one is a prerequisite for the other, basically) so its a moot point.
Whether your team meets or exceeds expectations is where joy derives from in fandom. Before, I had set the expectation at 50 wins and now I am setting it higher. Though that is not to say I would be disappointed with a 50 win season, or that I don't view a year with a long playoff run to be an accomplishment but rather that I now will only be fully satisfied if we win the ring.
seattle6418
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No pickem tonight?
I thought you guys started doing this on a daily basis.
Anyways,
Magic
Spurs
Jazz
I thought you guys started doing this on a daily basis.
Anyways,
Magic
Spurs
Jazz
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Jazz season is still exciting because of all of the injuries, all the recovering from injuries, and all the rookies, all the worries that Kirilenko will be salary dumped soon, and to watch as the team gives no effort whatsoever (Other than Millsap and Trick or Treat Miles) in the first 30 minutes and get down by 20 only to make an amazing comeback. They need to start playing better, but they're integrating a lot of parts right now. Hopefully they manage to win tonight, but Okur, CJ, and AK are probably out.
Boombloxer
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seattle6418 said:
I'll get in on this.
Magic
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Forceatowulf
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Magic
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Mavericks
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Future PhaZe
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reilo said:
what is the point of this shit if there isn't some type of surgery?
he can come back next year and feel decent for 20 games and by the time he comes close to 82 I'm sure the symptoms will be the same.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The Jazz are missing three of the top six players in their rotation and are on a back-to-back, it will be a close game.
Justin Timberlake
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Fucking Brandy comes in here with the negativity and its contagious.
This season has plenty of excitement left. We had a ridiculous fullcourt buzzer beater just last night. What is wrong with you people.
This season has plenty of excitement left. We had a ridiculous fullcourt buzzer beater just last night. What is wrong with you people.
Justin Timberlake
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pilonv1 said:
OK, halfcourt :lol
Boombloxer
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Was sent to the D-League, no?
ClovingWestbrook
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pilonv1 said:
So? Should I be excited to watch junior high basketball since there are full court shots there? Well, SHOULD I?!?!
The Frankman
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Billy really is too slow to guard Reddick.
Man both teams shooting ice-cold.
Man both teams shooting ice-cold.
seattle6418
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reilo said:
I suggested this a while ago and you told me his injury wouldn´t get better with rest, that´s why they weren´t shutting him down.
Now that they are doing, there is hope that he will get better right?
I like Roy, i hope he can recover.
Justin Timberlake
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Amare gets a T for saying "get that out of here" while making a monster block...
fuck this league.
fuck this league.
The Frankman
Banned
Tech for blocking a shot? holy crap get the fuck outta here :lol
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