2010 Ten Highest Paying Degrees aka Engineering domination.

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Des0lar said:
I find it amazing every time I read posts like that, how education is so different throughout the world.

Having a 200,000$ debt at such a young age is just INSANE....
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It's self-inflicted.

In-state public universities offer quality engineering programs. Attending a public university out-of-state can still be done relatively cheap (I attended Georgia Tech out of state, think my final bill was around $40k).
 
Bleepey said:
I am from the UK and a starting salary of about £20000 is good. Man these figures are insane to me.
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Im in the UK too with a computer science degree. Id say that list is pretty accurate. At least for me.

Edit: Whoops you meant starting, yeah £20k is very good starting out.
 
Smokey said:
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Did you not just read what I wrote in my post above you?

I don't know what area you're in, but in my area..as I mentioned..that is about right for undergraduates here.

The people I associate myself with that were in my major all started around that or even got higher.
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Were they inexperienced?

Perhaps I'm jaded, my experience in the IT field, which I left, companies were paying very little for a lot of skills. In my geo area, development has been almost completely outsourced. IT people can look forward to help desk jobs paying $12-$16 an hour through staffing agencies like Tek systems. Unless you have a degree, cisco certs and experience, then you may qualify for the network admin positions or sys admin which pay $18 bucks an hour.
 
Just started my CompSci degree. Good to hear. Though, really, maybe I should just get into being someone's rich nephew so I can actually make some realy money.
 
close to the edge said:
What's the difference between Computer Sciences and Computer Engineering in the US? Here there's only Informatics.
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Computer Science is how to use a computer to perform a task. (programming, algorithms, etc.)

Computer Engineering is how to make electronics into a computer - (EE, digital design, low level programming, etc.)

There is some overlap, but computer engineering overlaps with EE way more than it does with computer science, at least in the US.
 
I am actually wondering about maybe choosing chemical engineering. Of-course its stupid to ask this stuff here but, anyone know if it different from other engineering's programs in terms of difficulty?
 
Sealda said:
I am actually wondering about maybe choosing chemical engineering. Of-course its stupid to ask this stuff here but, anyone know if it different from other engineering's programs in terms of difficulty?
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i think electrical, mechanical, and chemical are at the more difficult end of the spectrum

MSE, Civil, and Industrial are significantly easier imo
 
Sealda said:
I am actually wondering about maybe choosing chemical engineering. Of-course its stupid to ask this stuff here but, anyone know if it different from other engineering's programs in terms of difficulty?
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I'm no engineering major anymore but the advice I got was major in physics if you wanted to be an engineer.

To me chemistry is hard to begin with sometimes I thought it harder then physics, when I was getting all my science reqs out of the way. I never understood the whole Physics is harder then chemistry, when I look at chemistry its Chinese to me.

If you have a grasp for chemistry definitely your good enough to major in any engineering program. That's my take on it but again I quit my road to engineering 4 years ago.
 
Way back when, I switched from Psychology to CSci because I didn't want to be forced into a Masters (if not PhD) in order to make money upon graduation. At that point, various engineering disciplines dominated the top 10. This was more than a decade ago. Looks like some things never change.
 
Well a good workforce of engineers build great nations. I would not be surprised if the number of qualified engineers is the difference between a nation that can keep a good infrastructure and a country whose infrastructure is poor
 
Kafarabo said:
maybe i shoulda went to comp sci instead of comp eng
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i don't think cs take circuit clasess while ce and ee both take programming classes so it's easier for them to switch to any of the three later on.
 
otake said:
hmm. How do I approach this post without getting banned....... I'm only going to address one thing, they don't pay you to study in Puerto Rico. Most people in PR take advantage of the Federal Pell Grant Program, deserving or not, and the state university is heavily subsidized by federal money that's why they can get away with $45 a credit hour.

You are not being payed to go to college, it's supposed to be government help for the poor.
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Yes I am not paid to go to college, I should rephrase that. What I mean is that most people here study for free(after the grant covers all their needs), and if you are lucky enough handling your money looking for a cheap apartment, not having a car, etc. , you get more than you need. For that reason, it may seem like they're paying you to study. I'm not saying I favor the system, I'm just saying that's the way it is. For the reasons I've just explained, many people here can get an Engineering degree from the best university in the country practically for free. That's ridiculous. (I'm from UPR Mayagüez if you're from the area).
 
Engineering and Computer Science degrees are better gateways into business fields than a stand-alone business degree. Its sort of a badge of honour. So it would be a mistake to say that engineering positions are where the real money is. The real money is in upper management.
 
When I first started working, going from a broke as hell college student to a dude making the 2004 version of the money in the list in the OP, I had more money than I knew what to do with. I was out of control for a while - strip clubs, booze, trips, it was awesome as hell. :lol

Live it up before responsibilities set in. :(
 
I'm really gonna get fucked when it comes to my Forensic Science degree, both in finding a job and salary, but eh at least I'll enjoy it once I finally do land a job.
 
Sealda said:
I am actually wondering about maybe choosing chemical engineering. Of-course its stupid to ask this stuff here but, anyone know if it different from other engineering's programs in terms of difficulty?
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(ChE speaking) Chemical is typically considered the hardest of the engineering sub-disciplines. My loose understanding of the "tiering" back when I was in school was ChE => Materials (depends if it's linked to ChE or CE) > Aero/EE/CompE > Civil > Mech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

Industrial.

Obviously YMMV on the order depending on school but I haven't met any engineer who thought that Chemical wasn't on top of the "college is not for fun" pile.

Petroleum is something of an anomaly since many ChEs are basically educated to become a petroEng if hired, and back when I was in school it wasn't a common major (my limited understanding was that it also had serious swings in labor demand so get ready for ramen if a war breaks out in an oil country).

I'm assuming that Civil isn't on the list due to the economy wiping out construction.
 
With a ME degree 4 years ago I stgarted at 35k/year. In 3 years I made it to 52k/year. Then after the economy took a shit I am not at about 40k/year.

This is in WI. :( Most of the MEs I graduated with are now working in an unrelated field or have been laid off.
 
TheRagnCajun said:
Engineering and Computer Science degrees are better gateways into business fields than a stand-alone business degree. Its sort of a badge of honour. So it would be a mistake to say that engineering positions are where the real money is. The real money is in upper management.
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I was wondering why we had to take statistics and engineering economic analysis, it all makes sense now.
 
Zachack said:
(ChE speaking) Chemical is typically considered the hardest of the engineering sub-disciplines. My loose understanding of the "tiering" back when I was in school was ChE => Materials (depends if it's linked to ChE or CE) > Aero/EE/CompE > Civil > Mech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

Industrial.

Obviously YMMV on the order depending on school but I haven't met any engineer who thought that Chemical wasn't on top of the "college is not for fun" pile.

Petroleum is something of an anomaly since many ChEs are basically educated to become a petroEng if hired, and back when I was in school it wasn't a common major (my limited understanding was that it also had serious swings in labor demand so get ready for ramen if a war breaks out in an oil country).

I'm assuming that Civil isn't on the list due to the economy wiping out construction.
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It is largely regional. Mining Degrees can pay well because Mining Engineers would hypothetically work at/near a mine meaning isolation pay. Manufacturing jobs can pay very well in Detriot or Ontario because it can involve automotive manufacturing. I've never heard of Civil jobs paying well though. At least in my region its a tough market to find jobs and pays poorly. Robotics/Mechatronics pays the best from what I've seen, which is sort of a mech/elec split discipline. Second to that would probably be an engineering position at remote mining/oil tapping location.
 
xelv said:
Yes I am not paid to go to college, I should rephrase that. What I mean is that most people here study for free(after the grant covers all their needs), and if you are lucky enough handling your money looking for a cheap apartment, not having a car, etc. , you get more than you need. For that reason, it may seem like they're paying you to study. I'm not saying I favor the system, I'm just saying that's the way it is. For the reasons I've just explained, many people here can get an Engineering degree from the best university in the country practically for free. That's ridiculous. (I'm from UPR Mayagüez if you're from the area).
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Best University in the Country?? You're still believing that lie? The UPR is a dinosaur, it has failed to evolve. The programs are outdated and they do not serve the needs of the local community. I don't know the quality of the Engineering program, I'm more familiar with the Natural Sciences, business and ComSci, however I did do research with some guys at Mayagues for an IBM project, they didn't do shit and lost the research money. Yes, I am from the area and spent my first two years at Rio Piedras. Believe me, it's all bullshit. Travel some, look at US programs and you'll see. It's a good, cheap education but highly overrated.
 
Mech >>> Civil, sorry. We do all of their solids crap along with our dynamics, fluid mechanics, heat transfer, etc. All those guys do is play with dirt.
 
RobertM said:
I was wondering why we had to take statistics and engineering economic analysis, it all makes sense now.
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Actually many engineering degrees can incorporate a business option into it, for a few extra credits. Looks very good on a resume and pays off well I understand.
 
Wellington said:
Mech >>> Civil, sorry. We do all of their solids crap along with our dynamics, fluid mechanics, heat transfer, etc. All those guys do is play with dirt.
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Hey now, Im a civil and I design water/storm/sanitary systems as well as highways. So its not just dirt, but also water, rainfall, shit and asphalt too!

:lol :lol
 
Hari Seldon said:
Computer Science is how to use a computer to perform a task. (programming, algorithms, etc.)

Computer Engineering is how to make electronics into a computer - (EE, digital design, low level programming, etc.)

There is some overlap, but computer engineering overlaps with EE way more than it does with computer science, at least in the US.
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Ah, thanks. I see.
 
Could one reason the engineering degree salaries are so high be because we are having fewer engineering students, thus the supply is going down? Seems like I heard engineering students were in sharp decline, but I could be wrong on that.
 
Wellington said:
Mech >>> Civil, sorry. We do all of their solids crap along with our dynamics, fluid mechanics, heat transfer, etc. All those guys do is play with dirt.
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At GT from the mid 90's to the early 00's, the general concensus was:

ChemE > ME/AE/EE/CompE/MatE > CE >>> IE

That kind of second tier clump was interesting. As an ME I'd bitch about the one or two EE classes I had to take, the EE's whined nonstop about basic thermo, etc.
 
Thagomizer said:
Oh yeah? Well I'm pre-med. I..um...I'll be making a lot! In ten years! And I quite literally won't have time to have kids until I'm 30! Beat that, engies!
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not to put you down but going to pre med is pretty much the same as being an communications major. Most my friends did bio medical engineering and then medical school. If you don't make it to med school your pre med is not a degree.... Engineers at least have something to fall back to.
 
If you got an Engineering degree (any engineering) and you're unemployed, you can find work here in Chicago where you can teach Math at different colleges. We have TONS of them. All they require is an Engineering degree. I heard they pay you $2,200 for every semester of class that you teach. If you teach 3, that's about $6,600 every 3 months. Its not much, but atleast we will never become social security bums. Engineers can always fall back on their advanced Math knowledge when times are tough.
 
put it this way, if i could go back 10 years in time i would never touch engineering with a 25 foot pole, i'd go into pharmacy or optometry, fields with better pay and a lot better job security, my brother is graduating in May with his pharmacy degree and already has job offers of upwards 115k

maybe some ppl actually like what they do, but i hate engineering now
 
Monroeski said:
Cold one reason the engineering degree salaries are so high be because we are having fewer engineering students, thus the supply is going down? Seems like I heard engineering students were in sharp decline, but I could be wrong on that.
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Its quite true actually. In most of my EE classes, the foreign students from India, Middle east and China far, far outnumbered local students. Also, for some reason there were unnaturally high number of Turkish grad students and PhDs in the Math department. Last I heard about my college, the ratio got even worse.
yacobod said:
put it this way, if i could go back 10 years in time i would never touch engineering with a 25 foot pole, i'd go into pharmacy or optometry, fields with better pay and a lot better job security, my brother is graduating in May with his pharmacy degree and already has job offers of upwards 115k

maybe some ppl actually like what they do, but i hate engineering now
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I like engineering. I always wanted to know how shit worked. Yeah, the job environment is crappy and you usually end up with the most uninteresting position in the business.

I hate pharmacy. O-chem has been my mortal enemy, and I never liked the chemical equations at all. I don't think I'd have gotten far.
 
otake said:
Best University in the Country?? You're still believing that lie? The UPR is a dinosaur, it has failed to evolve. The programs are outdated and they do not serve the needs of the local community. I don't know the quality of the Engineering program, I'm more familiar with the Natural Sciences, business and ComSci, however I did do research with some guys at Mayagues for an IBM project, they didn't do shit and lost the research money. Yes, I am from the area and spent my first two years at Rio Piedras. Believe me, it's all bullshit. Travel some, look at US programs and you'll see. It's a good, cheap education but highly overrated.
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Well, the engineering program is definitely the best in the country. But let's leave it there. I have many friends who have graduated and gotten jobs in the US with a 50k + starting salary, and that's the point of this thread.
 
yacobod said:
i think electrical, mechanical, and chemical are at the more difficult end of the spectrum

MSE, Civil, and Industrial are significantly easier imo
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Wait, you just lumped materials science and engineering with civil and fake engineering? You gotta fucking shitting me. There was so much goddamned chemistry and physics from physical chemistry and thermodynamics to fucking solid-state physics in my program that made the AEs shit themselves when they saw what we had to do. Is MSE much less computation based compared to EE and ME? Hell yes, because it's closer to the base sciences.
 
xelv said:
Well, the engineering program is definitely the best in the country. But let's leave it there. I have many friends who have graduated and gotten jobs in the US with a 50k + starting salary, and that's the point of this thread.
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Keep telling yourself that. I did a quick google search, UPR is listed no where near the top engineering schools but I'm sure that's just biased american propaganda or something. pffft.
 
Phobophile said:
Wait, you just lumped materials science and engineering with civil and fake engineering? You gotta fucking shitting me. There was so much goddamned chemistry and physics from physical chemistry and thermodynamics to fucking solid-state physics in my program that made the AEs shit themselves when they saw what we had to do. Is MSE much less computation based compared to EE and ME? Hell yes, because it's closer to the base sciences.
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ya idk, i will admit i dont have a good feel on MSE outside of the one entry level course i was required to take as part of my undergrad requirements my junior year, but that class was easy

so we can bump it up over CE and IE, but no way anyone convinces me otherwise on those 2 :D
 
Prine said:
Im in the UK too with a computer science degree. Id say that list is pretty accurate. At least for me.

Edit: Whoops you meant starting, yeah £20k is very good starting out.
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Really ? I was looking at some digital artist jobs for visual effects in UK earlier. The starting salaries is definitely between 15k-20k pounds. I'm surprised a comp sci degree UK doesn't pay significantly more ?
 
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