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darkside31337 said:
Orlando. Why the hell would they do that?
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It's a matter of direction.. the Aussie is underrated as a center.. he isn't the best center in the universe but he is pretty good.

Noah might learn a bit more O if given the chance tho.. I don't know which I would rather have.
 
AgentChris said:
Doesn't the Rockets have the pick? fml
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http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

2012 first round draft pick to Houston
New York's own 2012 1st round pick to Houston (top 5 protected in 2012, top 5 protected in 2013, top 5 protected in 2014, and top 5 protected in the 2015 Draft). If Houston does not receive a 1st round pick from New York by the 2015 Draft, then New York will convey their own 2015 2nd round pick and 2016 2nd round pick to Houston. [Houston - New York - Sacramento, 2/18/2010]
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2014 first round draft pick to Denver
New York's own first round draft pick to Denver in the "First Allowable Draft". (The First Allowable draft shall be the draft that occurs two years following the year in which New York satisfies its existing obligation to convey their own 2012 protected first round draft pick to the Houston Rockets from the trade involving Jared Jeffries). [Denver - Minnesota - New York, 2/22/2011]

2016 first round draft pick to Denver
If New York is obligated to send its own first round pick in the First Allowable Draft to Denver prior to the 2016 draft (see the details regarding the 2014 protected first round pick from New York to Denver), then Denver shall also be permitted to swap its own 2016 first round pick with New York's own first round pick. However, if the First Allowable Draft does not occur until the 2016 draft, then Denver will not be entitled to the additional first round swap and instead shall receive New York's own 2017 2nd round pick. [Denver - Minnesota - New York, 2/22/2011]
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The only pick the Knicks own until 2014 is their own 2013 first round pick
 
giri said:
The bucks?

They're getting terrible value there.
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Center for Center it is about a wash.. Jennings and Noah in a faster paced offense wouldn't be bad...

Also Noah doesn't break his bones every other month..
 
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Clippers should be pushing for this, IMO.
 
Blackace said:
It's a matter of direction.. the Aussie is underrated as a center.. he isn't the best center in the universe but he is pretty good.

Noah might learn a bit more O if given the chance tho.. I don't know which I would rather have.
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Bogut is probably one of the best 3, when he's actually healthy. Which just isn't that often. That and playing on the Bucks has really hurt his apparent value.

He could be the starting C, and second best player, on a chip team though.

Hell, the Bulls could take a run at getting bogut if they really wanted too. But the health issue is a huge gamble.
 
giri said:
Bogut is probably one of the best 3, when he's actually healthy. Which just isn't that often. That and playing on the Bucks has really hurt his apparent value.

He could be the starting C, and second best player, on a chip team though.

Hell, the Bulls could take a run at getting bogut if they really wanted too. But the health issue is a huge gamble.
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The center position is sooooo bad that Bogut is most likely the 2nd best center when healthy. It's not a shot at Bogut.. it's just the sad shape of the position..

I think the Bucks over inflate your value.. I call it "the Baker effect"

I would like to see him healthy on a great team tho, to see what he could do!
 
giri said:
Bogut is probably one of the best 3, when he's actually healthy. Which just isn't that often. That and playing on the Bucks has really hurt his apparent value.

He could be the starting C, and second best player, on a chip team though.

Hell, the Bulls could take a run at getting bogut if they really wanted too. But the health issue is a huge gamble.
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If you're a team so close to winning a chip you don't take a health risk. It's either Dwight or just keep the current core.

One of the things that people take away from the Sloan conference is that teams who keep the same core tend to do better over time.
 
Blackace said:
The center position is sooooo bad that Bogut is most likely the 2nd best center when healthy. It's not a shot at Bogut.. it's just the sad shape of the position..

I think the Bucks over inflate your value.. I call it "the Baker effect"

I would like to see him healthy on a great team tho, to see what he could do!
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Yeah, the years of wasted time with bogut, waiting on redd to get healthy, was such a shame.

It would be interesting to see what he really can do, on a good team.

You know what team he'd be REALLY interesting on? OKC.

Westbrook for Jennings and Bogut!


linsivvi said:
If you're a team so close to winning a chip you don't take a health risk. It's either Dwight or just keep the current core.

One of the things that people take away from the Sloan conference is that teams who keep the same core tend to do better over time.
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I don't disagree. I think it would be a mistake for the bulls to make a run at bogut, unless he's come back and played 30 or 40 games with out any injury problems.
 
soundahfekz said:
man Ilyasova is a fucking beast. 29 & 12 right now. If he was in NY or LA and came out of nowhere like this there would be a dedicated shrine in his name
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some fun facts.

last 3 games he averages 29,3 pts a game on 73% fga%.
since the allstar break he is shooting 64% from 3 (3 for 3 tonight).
he had 29 pts, 25 reb game against the Nets.
last 8 games he averages 21 and 10.

He is gonna be traded, so I wonder where he ends up.
 
giri said:
Yeah, the years of wasted time with bogut, waiting on redd to get healthy, was such a shame.

It would be interesting to see what he really can do, on a good team.

You know what team he'd be REALLY interesting on? OKC.

Westbrook for Jennings and Bogut!
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If I could trade him to any team?

Philly...

Brand for Bogut
 
RamzaIsCool said:
some fun facts.

last 3 games he averages 29,3 pts a game on 73% fga%.
since the allstar break he is shooting 64% from 3 (3 for 3 tonight).
he had 29 pts, 25 reb game against the Nets.
last 8 games he averages 21 and 10.

He is gonna be traded, so I wonder where he ends up.
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Hoping its to Orlando so bad. I don't even know how my body will be able to handle watching both Ryno and Ilyasova.
 
giri said:
Eh philly need more than Bogut to get them over the hump.

And i'm not sure philly have the piece either way.
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I don't think he makes OK that much better... Also as dumb as Westbrook is losing him for Jennings makes that team horrible.. At least Westbrook passes..
 
Blackace said:
I don't think he makes OK that much better... Also as dumb as Westbrook is losing him for Jennings makes that team horrible.. At least Westbrook passes..
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Jennings Problem isn't his un-willingness to pass, it's when they pass it back to him.

I think Bogut would give OKC the scoring down low they need, and it would be a certain production increase over perk.

IT would also means they can fend off teams like the grizz much better. And force other teams to not be able to go small against them.

But that's all supposing it's a fully healthy Bogut that comes back. Which there are no guarantees of.


Blackace said:
Please don't tell me you are saying Ryan Anderson or JJ are really GREAT players...
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Judging players by PER ><
 
I hope this is a situation where the magic finally great a great deal at the last second but file the paperwork a minute late so it doesn't happen.
 
Kyrie Irving is a cold-blooded kid. He decides to win the game, then just does it, and it's great to have him in a Cavs jersey.

Now, way too many bitter CLE fans are talking reckless about him vs LeBron, and they need to stfu. Yes, Kyrie is every bit a worthy #1 pick, but he's not in any discussion with LBJ yet, other than stronger hairline.
 
K.Jack said:
Kyrie Irving is a cold-blooded kid. He decides to win the game, then just does it, and it's great to have him in a Cavs jersey.

Now, way too many bitter CLE fans are talking reckless about him vs LeBron, and they need to stfu. Yes, Kyrie is every bit a worthy #1 pick, but he's not in any discussion with LBJ yet, other than stronger hairline.
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kyrie is more clutch. We'll take him if you don't mind, you can take lin.
 
K.Jack said:
Kyrie Irving is a cold-blooded kid. He decides to win the game, then just does it, and it's great to have him in a Cavs jersey.

Now, way too many bitter CLE fans are talking reckless about him vs LeBron, and they need to stfu. Yes, Kyrie is every bit a worthy #1 pick, but he's not in any discussion with LBJ yet, other than stronger hairline.
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Kyrie is a nice kid. It's not hard to like the current Cav team. The neo-Cav fans make it hard, so as an elder statement you need to keep them in check.
 
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