Future PhaZe
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Miami v Dallas both times were some of the most entertaining shit I've ever seen finals wise.
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2013-14 NBA Dec |OT| The Nets are the Knicks of Basketball
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Miami v Dallas both times were some of the most entertaining shit I've ever seen finals wise.
I missed a Cavs game, and they beat the Bulls. I cracked the code!
Nah, I thought the Davis x Nerlens future had HUGE potential. I was stunned when they traded him to the 76ers.
Nah, I thought the Davis x Nerlens future had HUGE potential. I was stunned when they traded him to the 76ers.
Well of course, but nobody can compare to the Jazz. Going from an above .500 team to worst record in the league without trading away a super star. This is goat tier level of tanking. Hats off.
You can't "half-tank", the second you sign Jordan Farmar instead of some d-league guy, you are officially not tanking.. is the point im trying to make.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
I think Gtyme and Kanter were overrated. And are just average role players on a good team.
Hayward is probably better than your average role player on a good team and its too early to judge Kanter too harshly other than you can see he is extremely skilled on offense.
As long as Hayward gets out of his shooting slump he will probably end up as a 17/5.5/5/1.3 player this season and get paid this summer.
Favors is still really good, he just has a limited offensive game but is great on the dive on pick & rolls. With a good point guard he will be a great player.
Future PhaZe
Member
I know it's early
But Ricky Rubio hasn't really developed at all and its his third season
But Ricky Rubio hasn't really developed at all and its his third season
I'm disappointed in the Wolves, too. They're under .500 now after that great start.
Kemba probably will get offered some stupid money by another team.
Not looking forward to that. Biyombo is going to be worth more by the end of the year though.
Ninja Scooter
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Good thing the Wolves saved that max slot for him.
So Shumpert was benched for yelling at Melo to play defense:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRKlLtu24T4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRKlLtu24T4
Agreed. I think Utah are actually a good point guard away from being a good team. Marcus smart maybe?
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Our bench fucking sucks.
victreeb3l
Member
Bargs also dropped back for no reason. Melo should also have gotten over that, it was a dumb switch. I swear Woodsons "plays" are just random crayon scribbles or something.
Shump didnt see any more play time after this. CAA owns this org.
Future PhaZe
Member
Is it possible that Adelman is overrated?
I haven't been impressed with how he has developed his young players.
I haven't been impressed with how he has developed his young players.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
That's true, too. The team is totally reliant on Kevins Martin and Love and they've both been slumping. Given that we have no bench scoring to speak of, it puts the team in a really tough spot.
I didn't think we would miss Budinger this much. Chase, you just had two meniscus surgeries in two years and we're relying on to basically be sixth man of the year. No pressure, buddy.
Yeah wtf
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
At no point should you attempt to make sense of the David Kahn regime.
This is the guy that said things like, Kevin Love is the fourth best player on a good team. Then tried to trade him for like JaVale McGee.
I always liked Farmar though so I can't be too mad about that.
I think of that group, Kawhi, Thompson, Kemba, Rubio, and Vucevic are above the rest in terms of highest potential salaries. With Kawhi having the highest potential after the Finals, and San Antonio believing he is a foundational player for the future of the franchise. Despite the fact that hes struggling offensively (which most people who watch the spurs knew was gonna happen) and coming off the bench. The Spurs will probably show him the salary sacrificies that Duncan and Co have made, and he'll buy into it. They are also haunted by the ghost of Richard Jefferson *shudder*
I also think of that group, Vucevic and Rubio will be the most interesting to see what happens since Vooch is a kind of an old school Center and Rubio is a a playmaker but not a shooter.
Maybe. Burke has actually been pretty impressive and our offense has been a lot better with him out there. Dragic kinda abused him with his size though. Also i don't know if i really ever seen him being an efficient scorer.
I wanted Jabari from the start and i havent seen anything to change my mind.
I dont really think Thompson is for sure ahead of any of those other guys.
Burke is too small. Any PG with size and length (and there are more and more these days) is gonna abuse him on defense.
He's a backup PG, IMO.
Luckily point guard defense means far less than some other positions, and some point guards of similar size have proven to very good players.
I'm not dismissing his size being a negative factor im just saying if he develops other defensive skills like some other small point guards (Rondo, Conley, Lawson, CP3) it can make up for his size.
Jazz are 2-4 since he started playing and i expect a pretty similar record for the rest of the season (prob more like 2 wins every 7 games).. which is much higher than the one win every 8 games that we were on. Which is kinda sad because i think it means we only end up with the 3rd maybe even 4th worst record in the league.
Vasquez was awful. Make no mistake about it. The system in place padded his stats but it didn't cover up his complete defensive ineptitude. Whatever he accomplished on the offensive side he gave up and then some defensively. He just can't hang with starting guards in this league.
As for the Jrue trade I agree with everyone else. Dell should be fired for that move. Jrue has improved as of late but he wasn't worth what we gave up. Not even close.
But part of it was ownership too that told Dell they want to win now. But I still hang most on Dell. He's putting this team together with almost no thought for how the players will gel. Tying most our money up in three mostly selfish me first guards that have underwhelmed their entire careers is a recipe to lose your star player to frustration.
I thought you were kinda hating on Shump?
I mean that he's gonna get abused by longer, bigger defenders.
Oh yeah, probably. But if you can run an offense and hit an open shot you can be a starter in this league.
I always liked Shump as a more versatile Thabo.
2nd Option, combo gawd Shump was the shit I couldn't stand
The Frankman
Banned
Shumpert was benched because THJr. was lighting it up and JR SMif has nekkid pics of Woodson's daughter. There's no way he's putting Shump out to pasture for something as trival as a sideline discussion. I mean c'mon, that's shouting?
Besides Woodson has sat Shump for long stretches in the 4th way too many times the past 2 weeks for it to be a suprise to me anymore.
#StopMOTHERFUCKINGSwitching
Besides Woodson has sat Shump for long stretches in the 4th way too many times the past 2 weeks for it to be a suprise to me anymore.
#StopMOTHERFUCKINGSwitching
If he actually does get traded to the Cavs for Waiters, I see Shump making the Knicks regret trading him
But if the Jazz end up with the 4th or 5th pick, they'd be silly not to take Smart if he's available.
I think Dennis Lindsey is definitely a "take the best available player" type of GM, so yeah i think they would too.
I was gonna ask who you thought is ceiling would be.
I was gonna say Afflalo when he actually cared.
I don't think i have even mentioned Anthony this entire season, thats kind of amazing.
He switches because he's trying to guard 3 people at once.
The Frankman
Banned
You have.
I mean more of the team concept of freely switching. JVG hated it to death.
You don't think Waiters will accomplish the same thing?
There are times when Shumpert is literally the only Knick on the floor attempting to play defense.
But call him out, Dolan. People like him are why the Knicks aren't living up to expectations...
Probably, but the Knicks are such a mess right now that I don't think Waiters will see an improvement this year
Future PhaZe
Member
I knew ego was getting in the way of the Knicks making good decisions as an organization the minute they let Lin go.
It was clear from that moment that if you were looking to steal shine from Melo and J.R you could go fuck yourself.
It was clear from that moment that if you were looking to steal shine from Melo and J.R you could go fuck yourself.