Nash Era?
Dude, he left after LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR they fucking sucked and he was looking his age despite being an incredibly skilled player. Time doesn't stand still.
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2013 Jan NBA Season lOT| Beautiful Black Bodies on Top
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Nash Era?
Dude, he left after LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR they fucking sucked and he was looking his age despite being an incredibly skilled player. Time doesn't stand still.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The Jazz were the 9th best team in the West with Deron that year, we weren't trading away the playoffs for an earlier rebuild because the chances were already low with Deron and Millsap and AK all beat up (especially Deron) and Sloan retired and the Grizzlies and Nuggets surging.
Dominican Power
Member
Suns were close to making the playoffs last year. lol
So again - to hit his own point, these were not 4 or 5 seeds on the way up.
No one says they shouldn't have blown up their team this offseason. I'm saying they shouldn't have blown it up in 2010 by not signing Amare. They'd be good for 2 more years. Nash/Amare/Hill/Dudley/Gortat would have been a good starting 5 and easily a playoff team last year. Denver and NOH made it.
The Jazz were the 9th best team in the west when they didn't have to be if they kept Boozer, and added pieces as their complimentary players like AK and Memo got injured.
You guys really want perpetual 30 win teams instead of 4-5 seeds in the playoffs? Really?
I wasn't talking about the state of the team when Nash was traded. But when Amare wasn't resigned. Or when Deron was traded (although that was 1.5 years sooner than it needed to be) but when Boozer wasn't resigned. That's why I keep talking about post 2010. Cavs tried to keep their team in tact, Lebron just left. Jazz and Phx actively broke their teams apart that same summer and have been non-playoff teams since.
I blame Charles Dolan's shithead son.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Utah made the playoffs last year.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
imagine if he dunked that
He was baiting Thomas into taking that second shot
As an 8th seed and got swept in the first round and destroyed by SA and they won't make it this year. That was a lucky fluke and essentially no different then being a 9 seed.
LegendofJoe
Member
MKG is good.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The Jazz had given Memo a two-year, $20 million extension right before his career ending injury, there was no money available to replace him. If we had kept Boozer, the team would have had to roll with a Millsap-Boozer frontline which obviously didn't have the size to work (and Millsap and Boozer were similar to other). Getting Al Jefferson was retooling the team and Boozer has been really bad in Chicago and is less athletic than before and wouldn't have done better than Al has in Utah.
That core was made up of five people. Deron, AK, Sloan, Boozer, and Memo. Memo was going to retire, Sloan had retired, Boozer was let go because he had been so unreliable and was about to hit the wrong side of 30 with no more contracts to play for, there was speculation that AK was going to retire from the NBA as well after that season to play in Russia. There was no core to hold on, the rebuild had already happened due to age and injury and Deron was just the last step. Your point may have some validity in some circumstances, but this is a terrible example to use.
That core was made up of five people. Deron, AK, Sloan, Boozer, and Memo. Memo was going to retire, Sloan had retired, Boozer was let go because he had been so unreliable and was about to hit the wrong side of 30 with no more contracts to play for, there was speculation that AK was going to retire from the NBA as well after that season to play in Russia. There was no core to hold on, the rebuild had already happened due to age and injury and Deron was just the last step. Your point may have some validity in some circumstances, but this is a terrible example to use.
Miami has Lebron, Wade and Bosh. All who don't rely on the 3 point to take over a game....and ray allen/battier on their worst days are far better players than any 3 point threat nyk puts on the floor.
LegendofJoe
Member
He should have got the call on that last drive.
Dominican Power
Member
And how would that team look like if they had no one to kick it out to?
They'd just kick it out to Bosh lol
You know more about Utah than I do obviously. But they chose not to resign Boozer before Sloan retired and Williams got traded and it may have contributed to those things happening. Williams and Sloan came to a dead heat over all the losing the following season. Williams was visibly and publicly pissed that they let Boozer go when he asked them to improve the team publicly in the press conference in the previous post season after they lost to the eventual champion Lakers.
Kobe did the same thing in 2007 after losing to the Suns. Asked to be traded too. But instead of the Lakers losing their second best player that summer. They picked up Pau. It reinvigorated Kobe and he's been nothing but supportive of Mitch and the organization since. There is more than one way to deal with a star players discontent and public cry to "improve the team or else"...and it usually doesn't involve losing your second best player a couple months later.
Dominican Power
Member
Championship!!!!
You never thought you'd see Tyrus Thomas and Hakim Warrick on the floor at the same time for the same team.
You mean if we replaced ray/battier with novak/Jr hog? First round exit.
Syphon Filter
Member
Salty.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Boozer wouldn't have done better than Al because he was out of a contract year. Either way, he and Millsap probably couldn't have started together long-term and having Boozer as a full-time center probably came off as an impossibly bad idea to management considering his injury history and his inability to block shots at all.
If the Jazz had stuck to Boozer (assuming that Boozer even wanted to re-sign) and Deron (for the two years before he was a free agent), they wouldn't have made the playoffs either year. The team was fucked after Memo got hurt and needed to make moves that involved letting Boozer go and getting Jefferson. It was probable that the team was going to miss the playoffs for the next couple years before watching Deron leave when they traded him. They didn't give up on their playoff core, it broke down. They didn't give up on the playoffs when they traded Deron, they weren't a playoff team at that point anyway.
This is just a really bad example.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
hell he might as well its not like they got anything else worth advertising....
Syphon Filter
Member
I am sure wiz will find a way to lose.
Jay Shadow
Member
Haha, kick out to Walton, airball 3....get the rebound and for some reason kick out to Walton again, airball 3.
LegendofJoe
Member
I'm tired of the shit lineups Dunlap puts on the court.
Dominican Power
Member
Who was the poster who was so hyped about Thomas Robinson being on The Kings?
That team made the playoffs year after year and Memo was seemingly always hurt. Plus, they could have gotten themselves a Marcus Camby or another role player Center in a trade that played good defense. Deron would have made him better than he is on offense. Was Memo really the key to UTAH being a perennial playoff player for 4-5 straight years?
Syphon Filter
Member
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Memo missed 5 games per season before that injury.
It was an Achilles injury which almost no one comes back from.
And yes, the difference between giving Memo 28-32 MPG and giving Fesenko and Francisco Elson 28-32 MPG can be the difference between making the playoffs and not in the West.
Rodeo Clown
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The Raptors need to cut down their rotation. You can't seriously play like 11 guys.
LegendofJoe
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we'd look a hell of a lot better if dunlap actually put together some sensible lineups
Kemba
Hendo
MKG
Tyrus
Haywood
with Gordon, Biz, and Sessions coming off the bench in that order
This posted already?
That YT guy who posts those videos of Amare's bad defense, complete with commentary, is back at it. Amare with that elite pnr defense. It's a good thing someone's teaching him defense this year. PEACE.
That YT guy who posts those videos of Amare's bad defense, complete with commentary, is back at it. Amare with that elite pnr defense. It's a good thing someone's teaching him defense this year. PEACE.