Barack Lesnar
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cause i said not rocket science? Stop acting soft, that ain't nothing.
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2013 NBA Playoffs |OT| Lakers started from the bottom, and they still there
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oh my god
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Same can be said about the Knicks and Spree tho..
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
No more soft from me then
Black Mamba
Member
Prime Kobe won 45 in the West with Smush, Cook, Walton getting huge minutes.
Unless you're going to restrict the top talent in the NBA to those types of rosters, you're never going to achieve parity.
It's the nature of the sport.
And honestly, I think it's the best attribute. The best teams should win. If there's one thing I hate about the NFL the most is that you can get hot for 3 weeks like Joe Flacco and win the superbowl. Some find that good, I don't.
I'm still annoyed OKC traded Harden and we won't get the Finals we should have gotten.
edit: Banned, lmao. Way to antagonize a mod. A quite lenient one at that.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
nice, now heavy has more time to creep out more girls at his local community college that are more hotter than allison brie.
Godspeed, brah.
Godspeed, brah.
Black Mamba
Member
Lakers-age wins even when it loses.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Unlimited maxes (or up to just under the salary cap I guess would be a realistic max) while keeping the salary cap has always seemed interesting for possibly promoting parity. You'd probably have all superstars with terrible supporting casts so a team built around role players could have a chance then.
Then again, teams could really fuck themselves in that system if they gave a fraudulent star player like $40 million a year.
Then again, teams could really fuck themselves in that system if they gave a fraudulent star player like $40 million a year.
That's why you couple it with soft guaranteed contracts (guaranteed for only the first 2 seasons) and not ironclad guaranteed contracts.
Syphon Filter
Member
dam lol.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Heavy is such a weird dude. If you're going to talk shit to a mod do it on twitter where they can't ban you...
Just kidding Ace.
Just kidding Ace.
Totally agree. Makes the upsets that much more intense. Detroit in 2004 is the one of the more recognized one, but just seeing Dirk and the Mavs just absolutely wreck in 2011 was amazing at the time. Not neccesairly an upset but they were so under the radar that year. Sweeping the Lakers and then just having an all time series with the Heat on their way to a chip.
Their series with the Pacers was arguably their toughest matchup. They didn't play the Heat in 2004 -- they beat the Heat in 2005 after Shaq arrived.
CherryWoodFuton
Member
What an idiot. Heat age doesnt nearly have posters of that calibre
#inb4pimpandlark
He was talking about the Mavs
A good point I think skip bayless mentioned(which I don't think are words I will ever say again) is that in the past 20 years in basketball there are only a few guys worth a max contract in the real sense of the value. These are prime shaq, MJ, Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, and possibly one or two more like Durant and Hakeem. Melo has finally proven to me that he can be a top player but I don't think he is anywhere near as much money as Lebron is if I'm bidding on the two of them for example. Then we have joke contracts in this league like the shit Rashard Lewis got. I think the nba needs to introduce a system where only so much money is guaranteed.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
That's like
ACE be saying shut the fuck up kaeptain but when he leave I be talking again
But really I talk trash and take it fairly but was kinda out there
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Black Mamba
Member
All those guys but AI are worth maxes in their prime.
TheKaeptain
Banned
I know you do.
AI was definitely worth the max when you include marketability. We all know your hate for inefficient scorers but lets not act like he was Monta Ellis out there. Iverson put asses in seats everywhere across the league.
what was he thinking with that outfit???
saw YNB's so ran down to the local salvation army store and said "wut yo got fo free"
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I think he gets a bad rap... dude is a career 42% scorer, granted not mind blowing, but hardly "inefficient" I think if he was paired with a decent player earlier in his career he would have been so much better. But talk about a one man army..
He also had about 3 godlike years that are right up there with anyone, statwise, at his position..
jordan0386
Member
He was paired with MANY players.
Worse teammate than Kobe.
First ballot though.
Worse teammate than Kobe.
First ballot though.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
lol he wasn't 31 until paired with a true all star who played a different position than him
Erry Stackhouse was the best player he played with before Melo after that was McKie
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
That Sixers squad Iverson took to the Finals was pretty awful.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
And just fearless...
That team was awful... Really the players he played with we're bad.. Claiming he had been with good teammates is reeeeeeally pushing the definition of good
Theo Ratliff was an all star in 2001, think about that.
Future PhaZe
Member
I don't know if I see Smith getting the max. He's not as good this year as last year and he doesn't have the really enticing things that people get maxes for (he's not going to get a lot better, isn't a volume scorer, is good defensivley but not good enough to build around, just above average rebounding).
I think if he gets it he'll get it from the Bucks or the Rockets, the former in which I can't imagine would be so dumb as to build around 3 of what would be the dumbest contracts in basketball (Monta, Jennings, Smith) when they have a chance to get better in a single year via a great draft class and the latter in which is a real possibility but I don't know that Morey would use his last bit of leverage/flexibility by choosing Smith as the final piece of his contending team.
I think if he gets it he'll get it from the Bucks or the Rockets, the former in which I can't imagine would be so dumb as to build around 3 of what would be the dumbest contracts in basketball (Monta, Jennings, Smith) when they have a chance to get better in a single year via a great draft class and the latter in which is a real possibility but I don't know that Morey would use his last bit of leverage/flexibility by choosing Smith as the final piece of his contending team.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Anyone named Pookie can't be a superstar
too much eslim
Member
Josh Smith is not even Box office as Stephen A. would say. Max contracts go to players that are not only good, but put people in the seats.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Nobody would be "box office" in Atlanta.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I don't think the Bucks would be interested in Smith while already having Sanders, Henson, and Illyasova.
Do Rudy Gay, Roy Hibbert, and Joe Johnson put people in seats?
Do Rudy Gay, Roy Hibbert, and Joe Johnson put people in seats?
Future PhaZe
Member
Atlanta is a pretty good sports town, it's just that the Hawks brand has been so fucking terrible that the fans are disinterested. They are like milder Philly fans who aren't afraid to talk shit and boo their own players when the product is trash. But you look at hardcore Falcons/Vick fans / Atlanta Braves fans and they are pretty loyal/hardcore.
If CP3 and Dwight went I think people would be surprised by how electrifying that arena could be. Won't happen tho
too much eslim
Member
Nope, thus should not have been giving max contracts. Not only that they are not even that good.
too much eslim
Member
So what was Dominique and Webb?
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
...But they got max contracts, which is exactly opposite to what you said.