2x MVP
2x Finals MVP
5x Champion
I think that beats any player in the league right now. Better than Kobe and Shaq.
Nah. I still don't believe it and I love Duncan. He is top 20 for me coming in at like 16. Of this generation he is up there. But I can't forget people like Oscar, Shaq, The Doctor, etc., either. I'd have to do my list. He might make top 15 no doubt.
Konex still has it in him, after all these years...
Agreed. Breen sucks ass.
They should get Ian Eagle or Kevin Harlan up in there with JVG.
Just saying those guys played in a different era.Oscar Robertson averaged a damn triple double in one season. I'm sorry but yes I'm taking him over Timmy.
So NBAGAF answer me this. If the Heat some how pull out a come back and win in 7, what will you say then?
2x MVP
2x Finals MVP
5x Champion
I think that beats any player in the league right now. Better than Kobe and Shaq.
He has played in a GREAT system man. Individually, while his achievements are greatness, they are still overshadowed by a couple guys in MY book. Top 15 or 20 is nothing to scoff at when the differences are at many times just personal. Putting him top 5 is batshit insane to me though.
There are definitely guys Duncan cannot handle in that top 10.
Not to be dismissive, but Bron's business has bloomed since coming here and winning. All the issues you mention can be addressed on free agency, where the Big3 opting out would allow Riley to swing the biggest stick. And Wade may not be young Wade, but he's still one of the best players in the league when healthy. And though everyone is an expert on it, no one can accurately put a date on when he becomes bad. There's also nothing to suggest Bron even shares those doubt's or concerns. He isn't leaving the chemistry and winning culture he is a part of down here. It's just not gonna happen. People should read or listen to the Heat beat down here. I don't even think Windy believes he's going anywhere, and he's been the biggest proponent. PEACE.LeBron is the biggest business first guy in the NBA. His family isn't Wade and Bosh, its his little bro-circle.
This team doesn't look nearly as good as it did last year. They have no real point guard. No quality bigs. Wade looks awful at both ends. Spo apparently enjoys reducing Bosh to a 3pt shooter even with Ray and Allen being better at it. I don't think anyone is giving up millions, and i doubt anyone would take Wade @ 20 million after all this.
Not exactly seeing much reason for him to stay if he can team up with Melo somewhere else this year.
The Heat could still get hot and somehow win the series, but even that wouldn't change the reality of what we're seeing, and it'll only be worse next year.
Wtf, I just looked this up. Amazing :lol
So NBAGAF answer me this. If the Heat some how pull out a come back and win in 7, what will you say then?
He is a 9-time allstar with 2 rings. He is a HOFer
Lebron is too self conscience to leave another team and become the consensus NBA villain again.
And let's be honest, Melo isn't exactly the brightest player. Hasn't exactly been the smartest player when it comes to his career, the more I think about I can completely see him trying to coattail the heat and not realizing all the things you just said.
Man, if only Lebron had help. 2 Hall of famers and an all-star ain't gonna cut it. Kobe and Jordan never had so little help. I mean, sure, Kobe went to three finals and won two titles back to back with only one hall of famer and did so in a tougher conference, but that doesn't count because I just decided so. LeBron needs help, period.
Hopefully next year he can finally get on a team with some talent and a front office that actually tries. OKC? Spurs maybe? He's already better than Jordan and Kobe he just needs help. It's not fair.
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
Duncan is a top 10 player of all time and the greatest PF in the history of the NBA. You can make a legitimate argument for top 5 - and saying he's top 15 or 20 is downright dumb.
IDK man SOME people people don't seem like they care much for history. Oscar is definitely going before Duncan sorry. At any rate you are talking to a HUGE Duncan fan so...... I'm not offended.
Robertson is regarded as one of the greatest players in NBA history, a triple threat who could score inside, outside and also was a stellar playmaker. His rookie scoring average of 30.5 points per game is the third highest of any rookie in NBA history, and Robertson averaged more than 30 points per game in six of his first seven seasons.[1] Only two other players in the NBA have had more 30+ point per game seasons in their career. Robertson was the first player to average more than 10 assists per game, doing so at a time when the criteria for assists were more stringent than today.[3] Furthermore, Robertson is the only guard in NBA history to ever average more than 10 rebounds per game, doing so three times. In addition to his 1964 regular season MVP award, Robertson won three All-Star Game MVPs in his career (in 1961, 1964, and 1969). He ended his career with 26,710 points (25.7 per game, ninth-highest all time), 9,887 assists (9.5 per game) and 7,804 rebounds (7.5 per game).[1] He led the league in assists six times, and at the time of his retirement, he was the NBA's all-time leader in career assists and free throws made, and was the second all-time leading scorer behind Wilt Chamberlain.[3]
Robertson also set yardsticks in versatility. If his first five NBA seasons are strung together, Robertson averaged a triple-double over those, averaging 30.3 points, 10.4 rebounds and 10.6 assists.[22] For his career, Robertson had 181 triple-doubles, a record that has never been approached.
So NBAGAF answer me this. If the Heat some how pull out a come back and win in 7, what will you say then?
Yeah, that's the one.You mean "self-conscious."
Not to be dismissive, but Bron's business has bloomed since coming here and winning. All the issues you mention can be addressed on free agency, where the Big3 opting out would allow Riley to swing the biggest stick. And Wade may not be young Wade, but he's still one of the best players in the league when healthy. And though everyone is an expert on it, no one can accurately put a date on when he becomes bad. There's also nothing to suggest Bron even shares those doubt's or concerns. He isn't leaving the chemistry and winning culture he is a part of down here. It's just not gonna happen. People should read or listen to the Heat beat down here. I don't even think Windy believes he's going anywhere, and he's been the biggest proponent. PEACE.
No to sessions. Collision would just be a quicker Mario with less active hands. Not sure we need to make sideways moves there. I'd honestly rather keep Rio at that rate, if he stays at $4M. PEACE.Perfect response.
Heat fans. I am going to throw names at you to upgrade at point guard position. Ramon Sessions and Darren Collision. Thoughts? Riley needs to let Chalmers go. Heat need a PG that can attack the basket, create their own shot, and pass it out. All of which Chalmers doesn't do. These other guards I mentioned are not the best at doing all 3, but better than Chalmers.
The only way they do that is if the Refs play one HELL of a game.
A lot of loyalty for a hired heat fan.
So NBAGAF answer me this. If the Heat some how pull out a come back and win in 7, what will you say then?
Oscar Robertson averaged a damn triple double in one season. I'm sorry but yes I'm taking him over Timmy.
So NBAGAF answer me this. If the Heat some how pull out a come back and win in 7, what will you say then?
He has played in a GREAT system man. Individually, while his achievements are greatness, they are still overshadowed by a couple guys in MY book. Top 15 or 20 is nothing to scoff at when the differences are at many times just personal. Putting him top 5 is batshit insane to me though.
There are definitely guys Duncan cannot handle in that top 10.
spurs by about 20 tonight. game 3 was the rubber match and the spurs decisively handled the heat with relative ease. spurs are in the heat head and lebron is all alone out there.
So NBAGAF answer me this. If the Heat some how pull out a come back and win in 7, what will you say then?
Damn right. If you believed the last 4 years, then believe for 3 more games. PEACE.Never give up. Never surrender.
Le Bron is to me, phsyically better than Jordan but man, Jordan is a winner. He doesn't take this kind of shit.
What about these last two games realistically makes you think this could happen?
Rondo x Melo x Wade x Bosh x LeBron
boom