That's funny considering the guys on the other side are Dwyane Wade and Mario Chalmers
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2014 NBA Finals |OT| Some dude guarantees they will win it all.
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That's funny considering the guys on the other side are Dwyane Wade and Mario Chalmers
obijkenobi
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Playing Haslem means the Spurs can play Splitter/Duncan and not pay for it. I think that's probably the main reason they haven't done it.
Seriously, it's insane how bad the guards are on Miami. All guards, including Wade and the bench players.
Patty Mills in 16 minutes off the bench matched the combined scoring of Miami's starting backcourt (Wade and Chalmers). And they played over 60 minutes combined.
elrechazado
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Really? Dirkgate???
Holy shit, that is hilarious. :rolllin Mike Tirico is going to great lengths not to bust out laughing.
friskykillface
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Wait til LeBron makes his decision
Seriously think he will be offered the vet min or be told "thanks for hitting that 3 but bye we are signing everyone for cheap"
Don Riley
Everyone is replaceable and I think you'll see the biggest change to a team in recent years, well the mavs had it done too
captmcblack
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Clearly, Lebron just doesn't have enough help.
Thats how we do it at the gym on pickup games when you're outmatched physically. Kind of funny that in the NBA all these teams forget the basics because they have "superstars"
Ken Masters
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Spurs were the better team last year, lost in a fluke
Why are people surprised? Because ESPN makes it seem like the Heat are the dynasty Bulls?
Why are people surprised? Because ESPN makes it seem like the Heat are the dynasty Bulls?
It is just a bad matchup for the Heat. Just like the Thunder are a bad matchup for the Spurs (though SA beat them this year).
If I ran Miami I would be concerned about fixing 2 things. D Wade and their lack of depth. Wade is obviously the bigger problem. The team is built around his and Lebron's athleticism creating turnovers on defense. Wade looks old and broken. They have to make the big decision to trust in Wade's health or figuring out how to be effective or ditching him (after the next season) and starting over.
ryutaro's mama
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I don't think this word means what you think it does.
Ken Masters
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And people think Wade and Bosh are going to opt out after these finals, LOL
It is a question of figuring out what his role to the team is, whether it fits with them, and whether he is worth the money.
Wade isn't Wade from 2005 but he is still a good player on offense. The troubling part is on defense. The Heat were able to get around their lack of size in the last 3 years with their athleticism but that seems to be gone now. And to be fair it is not just Wade, a lot of players have looked bad on defense on the Heat. And not just in the Finals. It is easy to play good defense against garbage teams in the East because they either don't have talent or don't know how to play basketball. You can't get away with that against the best team in the West.
Wade tore the Pacers a new one and find me another bench player that put up nearly 20/5/5 this year..granted his HGH is catching up to him and can't fix his knee.
captmcblack
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Wade's body of work - and his salary - make it so he's part of the "Big 3" until he's off the team. Once he gets his salary reduced or goes to another team, he can be fairly considered in context. Right now, he gets to enjoy being a declining star with a big-ass salary that was part of a 3-star teamup.
That's funny considering the guys on the other side are Dwyane Wade and Mario Chalmers
Did Wade get fined for this?
$5k is not enough. They need to figure out a way that these flops actually affect the game itself. Have the next game begin with a technical FT, or something.
teruterubozu
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BruceLeeRoy
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Wade did look like garbage and Bron did what he could in the early quarters but the dude straight checked out in the 4th.
Hopefully next year they will pick up Melo so he doesn't have the burden of shouldering so much of the weight.
entremet
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5k is nothing when in the playoffs. I'm sure the owners would pay these fines under the table for players flopping as well.
Gentle Rodriguez
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You mean when he was down 22 with 12 minutes to go? I don't blame him for not giving it his all, I don't think that's a possible comeback with how his teammates were playing.
BruceLeeRoy
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Come on, he has made up 12+ point differences in minutes.
I just love how he continues to show his makeup as a player and its definitely not one built like the greats.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Fair enough, I'll rephrase and say I'm not surprised he did what he did. It'll be fairly obvious early on in game 5 whether or not he's checked out completely.
friskykillface
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:'( T- Mac god
If LeBron wants to even be in the GOAT conversation he needs to be winning in the western conference. Miami + Melo would not be favorites to win in the west. Miami without adding anyone is going to get another free pass to the finals next year in the east. Come on Bron, go prove it in a conference that isn't shit.
ryutaro's mama
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Even that shitty Kobe never managed this right here:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2007_finals.html#SAS-CLE
And 7 years later, with Wade, Bosh and Ray Allen, he is poised to get lazy swept again!
Are u really trying to compare kobes performance with that lineup to wade last night? Really?
BruceLeeRoy
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Haha I knew you would show up. Kad a part of me really does love you.
You screwed up the joke.
what you should have said was: Not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7, but 2.
friskykillface
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Lol LeBron ain't ever going west
Its been said but the heat are guaranteed another trip to the ECF next season since the east is easy
ryutaro's mama
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But Gloria did.
ryutaro's mama
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Is this the part where I link LeBron getting closed out in Game 6, in Miami, by DeShawn Stevenson?
captmcblack
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That would be great. The Knicks could then tank incredibly for a high pick in 2015, and then throw the galaxy at Kevin Durant or LMA and have money to burn after that.
http://wp.me/p3LRnW-1D1g
That is a pretty devastating spotlight on Wade's defense in the Finals. Yikes!
That is a pretty devastating spotlight on Wade's defense in the Finals. Yikes!
Uno Venova
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Dwayne really looks like he stopped giving a fuck.
Dem HGH finally taking the tolls beside his jawline.
Hypemaster
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What a dick too, asking people to constantly cover is ass. I'd be like go fuck yourself has been.
It should be the entire team sharing the reward because it was a total team effort (with the exception of Matt Bonner, he probably shouldn't even get a ring let alone a share of Finals MVP).
But they are going to give it to Leonard because once he showed up it has been a blowout and his increased production on offense and defense will be credited as the difference.
This Spurs team is just a joy to watch. Perfectly coached and executed. I think a big factor in the Spurs' unselfish play is that most of their core guys were all drafted by San Antonio, and stayed there: Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Leonard, and Splitter. Danny Green was released after less than a year in Cleveland, and was picked up by SA. Bonner played 2 seasons in Toronto, and the last 8 in San Antonio. Pop has had a lot of time to make his impression on the players, and it shows. I don't think talk about other teams switching to this style is really possible, at least in the short term.
Who you would mark down for Finals MVP, assuming SA wins? Leonard has slowed Lebron as well as you can and put up good numbers the last two games, Parker is wearing out Miami and dominating Miami's PGs, and Duncan's defense has really thrown a wrench into Miami's offensive plan while putting up solid numbers too. I'd probably go with Duncan, but I wouldn't fault anyone for picking any of those guys.
Who you would mark down for Finals MVP, assuming SA wins? Leonard has slowed Lebron as well as you can and put up good numbers the last two games, Parker is wearing out Miami and dominating Miami's PGs, and Duncan's defense has really thrown a wrench into Miami's offensive plan while putting up solid numbers too. I'd probably go with Duncan, but I wouldn't fault anyone for picking any of those guys.
Pap saved super saiyan mode for this. I don't think SA has had the type of player leonard is and could be in the Duncan era
BronsonLee
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Honestly? I could see them giving it to Leonard since his rise in Games 3/4 really were a big deal.
That being said, Parker would be my pick because that dude is ridiculous the whole time
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