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[LyleLanley]

"Boston has reached the point of no return on a Rondo deal and Danny Ainge is moving fast toward sifting offers and making his best deal." - @WojYahooNBA

Well I guess that's that.

 

[ratcliffja]

I understand why his value's down but still Brendan Wright, Jae Crowder and a first that will practically be a second?

That seems like a pretty good deal for the Celtics, actually.

 

[TheSadRanger]

Who the hell is going to come off the bench for Tyson Chandler if you trade Wright? Trade him away and Dirk is going to have to play at the 5 more.

 

[Soonri]

Looks like this is happening. I don't like this trade. It takes the ball out of Monta's hands, takes another shooter off the floor (Harris), and now Dallas can't run pick and roll like they normally do. I mean yeah, they get defense and rebounding at the perimeter and Rick Carlisle is a genius... I just feel like you can't play a guard that can't shoot in the league anymore unless he is Tony Allen on D, and Rondo hasn't been for at least two seasons (because of injury and losing).

 

[Fjordson]

Looks like this is happening. I don't like this trade. It takes the ball out of Monta's hands, takes another shooter off the floor (Harris), and now Dallas can't run pick and roll like they normally do. I mean yeah, they get defense and rebounding at the perimeter and Rick Carlisle is a genius... I just feel like you can't play a guard that can't shoot in the league anymore unless he is Tony Allen on D, and Rondo hasn't been for at least two seasons (because of injury and losing).

Yeah, has been on the decline defensively for years now.

It's an interesting trade for Dallas. I dunno, seems like more a sidegrade than an upgrade but we'll see.

 

[jbug617]

Rondo is great big game player. He steps it up in the playoffs.

 

[TheSadRanger]

I really don't want to give up Wright though and put Greg Smith on the floor. Think Boston would take Crowder, Ledo, and a draft pick?

 

[Bread]

Rondo is going to be great for Parsons and Dirk, he's great at getting shooters the ball in the perfect spot.

 

[Soonri]

I really don't want to give up Wright though and put Greg Smith on the floor. Think Boston would take Crowder, Ledo, and a draft pick?

Wright's contract is the only way this can work out unless Cubes can pull a Keith Van Horn lol

 

[LyleLanley]

"Strong sense among teams talking to Boston that Danny Ainge is determined to deal Rondo by tomorrow to be able to trade what they get in Feb" - @ChrisMannixSI

Sounds like Ainge alright.

Edit:

"ESPN sources say teams closing in on swap to send Brandan Wright, Jae Crowder, Jameer Nelson, one future first & one future second to Celts" - @ESPNSteinLine

 

[Tom Penny]

Looks like this is happening. I don't like this trade. It takes the ball out of Monta's hands, takes another shooter off the floor (Harris), and now Dallas can't run pick and roll like they normally do. I mean yeah, they get defense and rebounding at the perimeter and Rick Carlisle is a genius... I just feel like you can't play a guard that can't shoot in the league anymore unless he is Tony Allen on D, and Rondo hasn't been for at least two seasons (because of injury and losing).

Better fit than Houston. How is this different than Kidd/Dirk/Terry/Marion/Chandler? Granted Rondo won't be hitting 3's but he's a superior facilitator than geriatric Kidd. Chandler will love Rondo who's made Zeller look viable ever since he has been in the starting lineup with him. I wanted him to go to the Pelicans so I could dominate fantasy with Davis.

 

[jbug617]

Boston Herald has an update

Involved sources are saying that Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge is focused on potentially high draft picks. He is not expecting to get a major player in return, and, in fact, anyone coming to Boston would almost certainly be on an expiring or limited contract.

"Danny's not interested in players," a league source told the Herald. "He just wants future assets."

Another source said that teams in the running are trying to work through other clubs to get the quality of draft picks Ainge is seeking. Absent outside help, one or more picks down the line from Dallas may be the most enticing because Dirk Nowitzki is 36 and nearing retirement (two more years on his contract after this).

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...ltics_likely_to_trade_rajon_rondo_within_days

 

[Gully State]

David Aldridge Twitter

Andrew Bogut had PRP (platelet-rich plasma) procedure on knee today. Likely to have another in a week. Same procedure as @DwightHoward had.

Damn...sounds like he could be out for awhile..

 

[Fjordson]

David Aldridge Twitter



Damn...sounds like he could be out for awhile..

Welp.

D. Lee time...?

 

[Soonri]

Better fit than Houston. How is this different than Kidd/Dirk/Terry/Marion/Chandler? Granted Rondo won't be hitting 3's but he's a superior facilitator than geriatric Kidd. Chandler will lover Rondo who's made Zeller look viable ever since he has been in the starting lineup with him.

Because Rondo can't play off the ball like Kidd did. It works for everyone but Monta who also isn't a consistent 3 point shooter.

 

[Bread]

Boston Herald has an update



http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...ltics_likely_to_trade_rajon_rondo_within_days

good

stock pile picks for 2015-2017 when the pierce/kg trade starts showing its return. they may be middling for the next season or 2, but oh boy this team could be really really good at the end of the decade.

 

[jbug617]

Rondo is going to Dallas
https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/545713320343666688

@WojYahooNBA: Boston's informed teams it's focused on completing deal with Dallas soon, closing on a package to send Rajon Rondo to Mavs, sources tell Y.

 

[LyleLanley]

"Boston's informed teams it's focused on completing deal with Dallas soon, closing on a package to send Rajon Rondo to Mavs, sources tell Y."

"Houston had dropped out of the talks in the past hour, clearing the way for Boston to complete deal with Dallas, sources told Yahoo." - Woj

Looks like it's finally happening.

 

[Two Words]

Goodbye #1 offense

 

[Soonri]

Yeah this means the Mavs are pretty much going for next season while treating the rest of this season and maybe the playoffs as an adjustment period for whatever they are going to do.

I love Monta too much though

E: That being said, the only thing I'll miss in this deal is Brandan Wright. That guy has turned himself into an awesome big, provided he's in the right situation which might not be Boston.

 

[Tom Penny]

SPN sources say teams closing in on swap to send Brandan Wright, Jae Crowder, Jameer Nelson, one future first & one future second to Celts

— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) December 18, 2014

 

[Bread]

SPN sources say teams closing in on swap to send Brandan Wright, Jae Crowder, Jameer Nelson, one future first & one future second to Celts

— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) December 18, 2014

can the first come after dirk retires pls?

 

[LyleLanley]

ESPN is saying the deal has been agreed upon.

 

[Bread]

thanks for all the awesome moments rondo

go mavs

 

[alr1ght]

Seems like Rondo has been getting traded the last 4 years.

 

[Cloudy]

Can Lakers get Jeff Green for Hill and a pick?

 

[Fjordson]

Done deal. Wow that was fast.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

What shit. What's the sense of Rondo if they already have Ellis and trading away their big men plus a 1st 2nd draft pick? Dumb trade

 

[jbug617]

Ainge wants to flip Jameer at the deadline so the deal had to be done today.

 

[Bread]

Can Lakers get Jeff Green for Hill and a pick?

you have no picks to give

if you did, you'd already have rondo.

 

[Owzers]

I liked Brandan Wright the most out of the players traded for Rondo but that's not a deal breaker. Downside is I thought the Mavs were good as is with the addition of Parsons and getting Barea and Chandler back. Who's their back-up Center to Chandler now?

 

[WesternHeretic]

Seems like Rondo has been getting traded the last 4 years.

Pretty much but it's actually official now.

 

[LyleLanley]

Here's the final trade according to Woj.

"Boston will send Rajon Rondo and Dwight Powell to Dallas for Brandan Wright, Jae Crowder, Jamar Nelson, 2015 first-round and future second." - @WojYahooNBA

I assume he meant Jameer.

 

[chicagocubsfan]

Mavs lose a shooter and Brendan Wright. IDK about that.

 

[Soonri]

Mavs lose a shooter and Brendan Wright. IDK about that.

Yeah this removes Devin Harris from the closing lineup. Parsons, Dirk and Ellis will need to pick up their 3 point shooting.

E: also no more of these

 

[GitarooMan]

I like the trade for the Celtics. Rondo was gone anyway, and this gives Smart more minutes (if he stays healthy). They weren't going anywhere, they got more assets for the future. I actually think getting Brandon Wright is pretty nice (although who knows if he stays).

 

[Branduil]

I've criticized the Mavs' front office a lot over the years, but they deserve a lot of credit this year for turning Jose Calderon, Sammy Dalembert, Brandan Wright, cap space, and late 1st round picks into Tyson Chandler, Chandler Parsons, and Rajon Rondo.

Not to mention the steal of a deal they got Monta on last year.

 

[Sanjuro]

I'm not really against the Rondo deal, it just make no sense why we didn't do it sooner.

Also, Danny needs to stop stock piling draft picks and actually obtain talent that can help us compete. Nothing he has done to this point makes me think he is very serious about that.

 

[LyleLanley]

I'm not really against the Rondo deal, it just make no sense why we didn't do it sooner.

Also, Danny needs to stop stock piling draft picks and actually obtain talent that can help us compete. Nothing he has done to this point makes me think he is very serious about that.

He hasn't really had a chance to obtain talent, but now he should have enough draft picks to probably make that happen at some point.

 

[Bread]

Also, Danny needs to stop stock piling draft picks and actually obtain talent that can help us compete. Nothing he has done to this point makes me think he is very serious about that.

the only way to succeed in this league is finding top talent in the draft and building around them

 

[AirBrian]

Interesting trade for the Mavs...I don't like losing Wright, but we'll see how this shakes out.

 

[LyleLanley]

Interesting trade for the Mavs...I don't like losing Wright, but we'll see how this shakes out.

For what it's worth it seems like people in Boston were pretty high on Dwight Powell's potential.

 

[Amory]

I'm an Ainge fan but wtf at this deal Danny?

The Celtics are getting fleeced. I feel like a better deal has to be out there closer to the deadline.

 

[Sanjuro]

He hasn't really had a chance to obtain talent, but now he should have enough draft picks to probably make that happen at some point.

It's hard to argue when no cogs are spinning. On the other side, you could criticize possible moves when there is really nobody out there.

The overall issue is this team can't go through what it did during the 90s. Might not be as bad, but I have no clue what he is doing. The only track record of Danny has here doesn't make this look good.

 

[Tom Penny]

I'm not really against the Rondo deal, it just make no sense why we didn't do it sooner.

Also, Danny needs to stop stock piling draft picks and actually obtain talent that can help us compete. Nothing he has done to this point makes me think he is very serious about that.

He's tried to flip rondo for Curry, CP3, Westbrook among others. Teams aren't stupid. Hindsight is 20/20. The Cavs draft bullshit this year fucked them out of that chance. A top 3 pick would have landed them Love.

 

[Sanjuro]

the only way to succeed in this league is finding top talent in the draft and building around them

The NBA? Nope. In reality, your top talent is largely only contained within one ping pong ball, and that ball only comes around rarely.

Using those picks to chase that top ticket helps. However, it only makes sense to hold onto them for so long.

 

[LyleLanley]

It's hard to argue when no cogs are spinning. On the other side, you could criticize possible moves when there is really nobody out there.

The overall issue is this team can't go through what it did during the 90s. Might not be as bad, but I have no clue what he is doing. The only track record of Danny has here doesn't make this look good.

I think the only reasonable plan is to do what Ainge is doing. Stockpile draft picks and hope you hit on some of those or trade them when a star becomes available. In the end it's partially up to Ainge but it also requires a lot of luck.

 

[jbug617]

I think the only reasonable plan is to do what Ainge is doing. Stockpile draft picks and hope you hit on some of those or trade them when a star becomes available. In the end it's partially up to Ainge but it also requires a lot of luck.

Boston also got players (Bass, Green and Nelson) to trade at the deadline for more assets

 

[Sanjuro]

Boston also got players (Bass, Green and Nelson) to trade at the deadline for more assets

I don't think you should trade Green.

Bass absolutely needs to go.

 

[LyleLanley]

Boston also got players (Bass, Green and Nelson) to trade at the deadline for more assets

I think pretty much anyone besides Smart is available.

I don't think you should trade Green.

Bass absolutely needs to go.

I like Green but if they can get a decent first round pick for him I'd do it in a second. He's been good this year but it's also a contract year so who knows if he can/will keep it up.