ErnieMcCracken
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You were making this a black and white issue. Not sure where you're going now...
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2016-2017 NCAA Men's Basketball |OT| Villanova has no fans so this is their thread
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You were making this a black and white issue. Not sure where you're going now...
White players are always praised for being "crafty", "passionate" and "hustle players" for certain types of borderline plays. Black players on the other hand just get called racist code words (usually "thugs"). Been happening in every major sport for decades.
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Montrezl Harrell was suspended for 1 game for throwing a punch.
Chris Paul was suspended 1 game for actually punching a dude in the nuts.
Marcus smart was suspended 3 games for shoving a fan.
Jay Williams, Fox Sports and all of Twitter want Grayson suspended for 5 games.
(when did GAF disable emoji support?)
Chris Paul was suspended 1 game for actually punching a dude in the nuts.
Marcus smart was suspended 3 games for shoving a fan.
Jay Williams, Fox Sports and all of Twitter want Grayson suspended for 5 games.
(when did GAF disable emoji support?)
Grover Cleveland
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Soooooooooo
UNC was issued a 3rd notice of allegations from the NCAA yesterday.
It basically reinstated all of the harsh language that was in the 1st NoA but removed from the 2nd.
At this rate, they may have 1 scholarship taken away for the 2034-35 season.
UNC was issued a 3rd notice of allegations from the NCAA yesterday.
It basically reinstated all of the harsh language that was in the 1st NoA but removed from the 2nd.
At this rate, they may have 1 scholarship taken away for the 2034-35 season.
ErnieMcCracken
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Montrezl Harrell was suspended for 1 game for throwing a punch.
Chris Paul was suspended 1 game for actually punching a dude in the nuts.
Marcus smart was suspended 3 games for shoving a fan.
Jay Williams, Fox Sports and all of Twitter want Grayson suspended for 5 games.
(when did GAF disable emoji support?)
Allen has a history of tripping? Not like it's his first time. But there's a defense Force for everything...
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Can you point to another player who was suspended for 5 games for racking up 3 techs/flagrant 1s over the course of 2 seasons? Are you really equating that to being almost twice as severe as a player laying hands on a fan?
Proelite
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Yes, but that history resets every season. No governing body looks at previous season for individual players punishments for on court behavior. The punishment for intentional tripping is flagrant 1 technical. Technically according to the rule books Allen can do it 2 times a game every game. NBA has a technical foul limit for a season, idk if NCAA does.
The program itself can hold the players to a set of standards that takes in player history. Which Duke is doing.
ErnieMcCracken
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I never stated he should be suspended for 5 games. You act like he's "misunderstood" and what he's done is no big deal. The rest of us disagree. It's bush league shit that shouldn't be excused or accepted. K will sit him against VT and that will be the end of it. Until he does it again.
Given the pontification and over the top soapboxing from the sports media today, the best I can conclude is tripping third offense > punching a woman in the face or group sexual assault. The smugness and condescension from the pundits is laughable and sad given the reaction here compared to other events. I'm certainly glad Allen is suspended, hopefully for 2-3 games, but its hard for me not to compare the severity of the incidents and think the media reaction is carny as hell.
Proelite
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I want overreaction. I want over-hate. I want the world against the team.
Media and pundits etc ignore truly101 and pile on.
sf2fanatic
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He won't make it in the NBA.
That will depend entirely on his playing ability, not his attitude. NBA GMs have shown they will tolerate a lot of bullshit from players if they can help them win.
I'm not so sure he'll make it either, but thats because he's too willing to jack a 3 if he can't easily drive and score.
Jest Chillin
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Probably just stating the obvious here but I would assume that if Duke makes this a lengthy suspension, it's due to behavior they are seeing all around from Grayson. And there is no reason that Coach K couldn't or shouldn't consider multiple seasons worth of incidents in conjunction with anything else they may or may not be seeing that isn't common public knowledge in making the decision.
I would think the ultimate goal should be to get Grayson to cut the bad behavior out. It's no good for him and no good for Duke as a program or a school.
But hey, I'm of the school of thought that believes that this kind of stuff being tolerated because of talent is an awful way to run a team.
I would think the ultimate goal should be to get Grayson to cut the bad behavior out. It's no good for him and no good for Duke as a program or a school.
But hey, I'm of the school of thought that believes that this kind of stuff being tolerated because of talent is an awful way to run a team.
unknownstranger
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Duke plays once in the next 12 days. Wouldn't be surprised if he only ended up being suspended for one game.
sf2fanatic
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So Charles O'Bannon's kid is choosing USC over UCLA. Damn oh well
DirtyManos
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Oh man this UCLA - Oregon game, giving me heart attacks. Too many turnovers for UCLA so far, Ball just gave us the lead thank God.
Purple Cheeto
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I saw that, I was gonna ask how you felt about it. I guess with the Ball family pipeline it doesn't matter much but it seems like Enfield might be finally waking up that sleeping Giant USC hoops program.
Oregon's court looks permanently water damaged.
Edit: Ducks fans storming the court when the game isn't even over.
DirtyManos
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Ah fuck.
GG Oregon.
GG Oregon.
sf2fanatic
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I guess O'Bannon's kid wants to have his own career and not live in the shadow which it's cool.
Pac-12 Basketball gonna be good this season.
Oregon played tough tonight. Kinda like our chances now since last two times we've lost to Oregon we went deep in the tournament. And in 95 we won it all.
Randolph Freelander
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Guys. This is a Duke thread. Get your own.
sf2fanatic
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definitely it is since it was on page 5
Great game from both teams. I'm already going to the game on the 9th and my coworker's husband is a UCLA assistant so I've got a ton of shit to talk tomorrow
NaturalHigh
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Cal really needs to adjust the way he subs people in. It wouldn't be an easy task.
Sometimes UK's play is just god awful for stretches but I can't pinpoint why.
Sometimes UK's play is just god awful for stretches but I can't pinpoint why.
Randolph Freelander
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Duke resumes play tomorrow, noon tip at Virginia Tech. I don't know if VT is good or not, but they're 11-1, no great wins (beat Michigan), but the loss isn't terrible, either (Texas A&M, whose losses are all to power 5 teams and they played UCLA, USC, and Arizona close, all of whom are ranked). They played a couple of nights ago to knock some rust off, whereas Duke has been off for 10 days, didn't look good in either of their past two games after their previous long layoff, and will be without Grayson Allen. Add to it, I think VT is going to suit up Dell Curry. I'm just saying it could be a long afternoon.
Brian Fellows
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How dare you Sir!
No we aren't a great win in general but it was a true road win.
Randolph Freelander
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How dare you Sir!
No we aren't a great win in general but it was a true road win.
Fair enough. Duke to lose by 30 unless Sean Dockery walks through that door.
I have a terrible feeling about today's game. Duke is nowhere near a complete team and trip-gate part 3 is only going to further the distraction. VT has good guard play and will be fired up playing at home. A double digit beat down would not surprise me....I actually kind of expect it. All part of the process I guess.
Grover Cleveland
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Amile losing the ball on a wide open drive is probably a precursor for things to come in this game.
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Damn, VT is red hot. Probably good to just get this sort of game out of our system early in ACC play.
At least Harry is playing well.
Yeah. So frustrating and disappointing to watch right now. This team's potential if injuries hadn't been a factor, and when fully gelled, is sky-high.
There's still plenty of time to course-correct. If anyone can do it, K can. IIRC, the 2015 team looked messy up until Sheed's dismissal and then eventually pulled it together.
At least Harry is playing well.
Yeah. So frustrating and disappointing to watch right now. This team's potential if injuries hadn't been a factor, and when fully gelled, is sky-high.
There's still plenty of time to course-correct. If anyone can do it, K can. IIRC, the 2015 team looked messy up until Sheed's dismissal and then eventually pulled it together.
Randolph Freelander
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On pace.
Grover Cleveland
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Time to watch Harry Giles Wendell Carter highlights!
Proelite
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Grayson is good for 10 points extra and defends for 5 points. So potentially a 15 pt swing. Which would make this a 1 point game.
His +/- for the season is ahead of Kennard.
Randolph Freelander
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The deficit is under 20. This is clear moral victory territory.
Brian Fellows
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And now the worst chant in sports.
Randolph Freelander
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"our win is not impressive"
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Man, that's a particular pathetic-looking "court storm". It's supposed to be a rush, not a trickle. And put your damn phones away. Kids these days *sigh*
Randolph Freelander
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The bright side is that Carolina also lost today. That always helped on the school bus the next day.
Speaking of bright sides, another one is that Duke often looks terrible in early conference play due to two lengthy pre-conference breaks.
Speaking of bright sides, another one is that Duke often looks terrible in early conference play due to two lengthy pre-conference breaks.
Grover Cleveland
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Carolina also lost.
Meanwhile, UVa beat Louisville handily in the Yum
Looks like Bennett has the class of the league again
Meanwhile, UVa beat Louisville handily in the Yum
Looks like Bennett has the class of the league again
Proelite
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Final four for UVA this year. I am placing my bets.
GoldenEye 007
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UCF destroying Temple right now. Up 51-21 in the second half.
scoobs
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Woke up today to check the scores and realized I know absolutely nothing anymore. Is anyone elite this year? Feels like UK, UCLA, KU, Nova, Baylor (what?), West Virginia are the best teams, but I honestly have no clue. How can Baylor actually be an elite team? I refuse to believe it.
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