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[SF Kosmo]

Things always change for good. They don't just go back to how they were.

If and when we get a solid covid vaccine we'll see a lot of the basic stuff go back to relative normal, but I bet you continue to see masks like you do in Asia.

Political unrest and polarization was a long trend, that didn't come from a vaccuum. I think with regard to the police in particular we have reached a tipping point in terms of popular support for BLM/police reform. These are now officially broadly popular in the same way as, say, legalizing weed or gay marriage, and even most of the people opposing them are largely doing so on Reefer Madness-style hysteria about it being a terrorist organization or wanting lawlessness or whatever silly shit.

The economy is gonna suck for a couple years, then go back to how it was, but more importantly I think it exposes a lot of the existing weaknesses in the economy. Covid has exposed how vulnerable our supposedly thriving middle class was. I thin that's going to lead a lot of people receptive if a Bernie-style economic populist rolls around.

Power structures are strong but they can be broken. Trump was definitely an example of that; even if he does fundamentally represent the billionaire class establishment, he's not who anyone in power wanted to see get elected.

 

[BoingBus]

2020 has been shit except for the one silver lining that we finally have some good Republican leaders in power looking out for us. Everyone needs to go out and vote so that the liberal agenda doesnt take us backwards from all the progress we have made so far.

 

[YCoCg]

I like how the OP highlights that both sides of power don't care but the first few responses legit have to shout "BUT MARXISM MUST BE REJECTED!!!!", like where the fuck was that even mentioned, I swear some people on the right have a trigger to scream "Marxism" anytime someone mentions how bad things are (which is currently under mass capitalism).

 

[Joe T.]

This madness will persist until at least March, so buckle up. That "second wave" needs to be worse than the first for the World Economic Forum to sell "The Great Reset." Their annual meeting is in late January, expect it to get a lot more attention than usual because the hysteria pushed onto us by the mainstream media will finish the job the first round of economic shutdowns started. Only way to fight against it is to unplug the masses from the sensationalized garbage and that's no easy task with social media cracking down on dissenting opinions.

 

[YCoCg]

This madness will persist until at least March, so buckle up. That "second wave" needs to be worse than the first for the World Economic Forum to sell "The Great Reset." Their annual meeting is in late January, expect it to get a lot more attention than usual because the hysteria pushed onto us by the mainstream media will finish the job the first round of economic shutdowns started. Only way to fight against it is to unplug the masses from the sensationalized garbage and that's no easy task with social media cracking down on dissenting opinions.

So your response to someone wanting to build a healthier, more equitable and fairer system is "RED FLAG"? Mass Capitalism is a damn problem, people always talk about the good old days, well lets go back to the good old days of a proper tax system where large businesses and huge mega corporations paid their fair due! America and other countries were able to boom throughout the 50's and 60's because of all that money being funnelled back into society and improving things, but when politicians and such started accepting backhanders and having laws, loopholes, etc, changed from the 80's onwards we've got what we have now, Governments who ONLY focus on money and improving things for the top 10%, giving scraps to the citizens because they used the media to convince them anything else is "SOCIALISM/MARXISM" meanwhile giving billion dollar tax breaks to multiple companies, awarding contracts to friends with less experience, etc, etc. Things DO need to change, if you don't think so then you really need to pay attention. And it's not just an American thing, this goes for Britain, etc, too, we're all in a fucking mess and the people in charge only care about money and their rich friends.

 

[BoingBus]

This madness will persist until at least March, so buckle up. That "second wave" needs to be worse than the first for the World Economic Forum to sell "The Great Reset." Their annual meeting is in late January, expect it to get a lot more attention than usual because the hysteria pushed onto us by the mainstream media will finish the job the first round of economic shutdowns started. Only way to fight against it is to unplug the masses from the sensationalized garbage and that's no easy task with social media cracking down on dissenting opinions.

Yes!! all this corona nonsense is just a liberal hoax to get people dependent on government. Next they will take our right to protect ourselves and freedoms. At that point, its pretty much childs play to rewrite the laws to just pad the pockets of Pelosi and George Soros.

So your response to someone wanting to build a healthier, more equitable and fairer system is "RED FLAG"? Mass Capitalism is a damn problem, people always talk about the good old days, well lets go back to the good old days of a proper tax system where large businesses and huge mega corporations paid their fair due! America and other countries were able to boom throughout the 50's and 60's because of all that money being funnelled back into society and improving things, but when politicians and such started accepting backhanders and having laws, loopholes, etc, changed from the 80's onwards we've got what we have now, Governments who ONLY focus on money and improving things for the top 10%, giving scraps to the citizens because they used the media to convince them anything else is "SOCIALISM/MARXISM" meanwhile giving billion dollar tax breaks to multiple companies, awarding contracts to friends with less experience, etc, etc. Things DO need to change, if you don't think so then you really need to pay attention. And it's not just an American thing, this goes for Britain, etc, too, we're all in a fucking mess and the people in charge only care about money and their rich friends.

You're only looking at the surface. There are powerful people out there looking to subvert our freedoms by making Trump and other patriots look bad. The coronavirus is just another tool in their arsenal and is very effective at making people replace rational thought with fear. If you live with fear, then you are basically just cattle ready to be herded.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Is this the doomposting thread?

 

[Croatoan]

I am more worried that 2020 is driving us down a road that end with a major war with China.
I think that is the biggest thing that needs to be avoided.

If it helps any major war with china will kill every human on the planet. So either it wont happen, or everyone else dies with you. There can be no conventional war between nuclear armed countries.

On another note I have lost a bunch of weight, still have a job, and starting playing the guitar again. I fully expect an alien invasion in the fall, and even worse...No college football .

 

[Joe T.]

So your response to someone wanting to build a healthier, more equitable and fairer system is "RED FLAG"? Mass Capitalism is a damn problem, people always talk about the good old days, well lets go back to the good old days of a proper tax system where large businesses and huge mega corporations paid their fair due! America and other countries were able to boom throughout the 50's and 60's because of all that money being funnelled back into society and improving things, but when politicians and such started accepting backhanders and having laws, loopholes, etc, changed from the 80's onwards we've got what we have now, Governments who ONLY focus on money and improving things for the top 10%, giving scraps to the citizens because they used the media to convince them anything else is "SOCIALISM/MARXISM" meanwhile giving billion dollar tax breaks to multiple companies, awarding contracts to friends with less experience, etc, etc. Things DO need to change, if you don't think so then you really need to pay attention. And it's not just an American thing, this goes for Britain, etc, too, we're all in a fucking mess and the people in charge only care about money and their rich friends.

Propose the changes and have the people vote on them, don't force them down everyone's throat. Do you want democratic solutions or totalitarianism?

 

[Super Mario]

The more we continue to act and panic based off of BS propaganda that is fed to us, the more it will never change. Right now, it is not looking good.

 

[Tesseract]

things will be aight, you gotta adapt or die

 

[Rien]

Stop watching the news and social media.

This is great advice.

 

[YCoCg]

Propose the changes and have the people vote on them, don't force them down everyone's throat. Do you want democratic solutions or totalitarianism?

See this is where they were smart, Democracy should be fine BUT when people get brainwashed on either side that leads to swaying the vote. People often vote against their best interests if it means someone else doesn't get something, the media have portrayed any basic society need as "SOCIALISM" and therefor "BAD", and it's been pushed even further now, we have people screaming "MARXISM!!!" for the same thing they called socialism 10 years ago! The American mentality that no one should get handouts when in reality it's the big corporations and government friends who get all the hand outs, but even dare to suggest that money should be put into healthcare or education and suddenly it's "NOT RAISING MY TAXES FOR COMMIES!!!". What's the old saying again? Convince them their enemy might be better off under the same rules and they'll gladly vote against it.

 

[Eric187]

I was in the military when 9/11 happened and it seemed like the world was ending. Trust me eventually things will go back to normal.

 

[Joe T.]

See this is where they were smart, Democracy should be fine BUT when people get brainwashed on either side that leads to swaying the vote. People often vote against their best interests if it means someone else doesn't get something, the media have portrayed any basic society need as "SOCIALISM" and therefor "BAD", and it's been pushed even further now, we have people screaming "MARXISM!!!" for the same thing they called socialism 10 years ago! The American mentality that no one should get handouts when in reality it's the big corporations and government friends who get all the hand outs, but even dare to suggest that money should be put into healthcare or education and suddenly it's "NOT RAISING MY TAXES FOR COMMIES!!!". What's the old saying again? Convince them their enemy might be better off under the same rules and they'll gladly vote against it.

We agree on the problem: brainwashing. Propaganda is spread by the mainstream news and, especially in recent years, any attempt to challenge it gets met with dismissals claiming you're a conspiracy theorist. That's as true in regards to political stories as it is everything else.

Where we appear to disagree is the source of that brainwashing and its agenda. Your argument here makes it sound like it's coming strictly or predominantly from the right side of the aisle in the US. It's definitely there, but it's completely dwarfed in size by the left. The liberal media dominates the airwaves and the internet, they also dominate the public consciousness with the entertainment sector. Try diving into the topic of North American education while you're at it and see what that brings up.

The brainwashing is real and in this particular case it's pushing the point of view you share, at least in regards to Marxism, socialism and taxes being used to scare people. It's largely pushing the masses towards the candidates supporting those ideas.

You don't tear the whole system down to fix a few problems, even one as big as the media empire pushing propaganda. There are steps that can be taken to address that, I refuse to believe it can't be fixed. It is tricky, though. In the US's case that propaganda has convinced the masses he's a fascist so any steps Trump might take will be viewed as an attack on the "free" press, it needs to be a bipartisan solution in Congress. And there we hit another money/corruption roadblock because the party benefiting from this coverage won't want to surrender control. That's why it's important to unplug people from those corporate media outlets. Give people the facts - all the facts - and let the truth set people free.

I've been working overtime to show friends and family just how broken our media is, even up here in Canada. When they see how bad it's been there's no going back for them, the seed of doubt takes hold and future reporting only serves to give it life. That's one of the reasons I love the fact Trump is POTUS. He has a lot of very powerful people that want to take him down and they've gone to extreme measures to make it happen (China, Bloomberg, Gates, Bezos, Soros, etc). The media giants can't go a single day without misleading or outright lying to the public about him. It's made life a lot easier for me, more entertaining, too.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Spoiler: I got the plague

When you think it can't get worse something else happens.

 

[YCoCg]

Where we appear to disagree is the source of that brainwashing and its agenda.

I said on both sides, so if you disagree with me then you're dismissing all the shit pulled by the right wing and republicans, you know, those who were in power and pushed through most policies in the late 70's and 80's which is fucking people over now, if you don't think that's an issue then you've got your head shoved so far up your ass you just want to blame the left.

 

[poppabk]

There is no normal, it's only 13 years since the first iPhone launched, now try and imagine today's society without smartphones. It's only 19 years since the dot.com bubble burst - now the internet is the dominant business medium. It's only 12 years since the housing crisis. It's only 10 years since the Arab spring. It's only 4 years since Trump was elected and the UK voted for Brexit.
Shit is always in turmoil, somehow we pull through.

 

[Celcius]

Tough times don't last but tough people do... hang in there

 

[Yoboman]

"Trump is too anti-war"

Never thought that would be a negative. I guess you want more than the covid death toll to die...

We’ll adapt. And lol @ Trump being too anti-war, that’s one thing he can get credit for, except he doesn’t understand how our bases around the world help keep the peace.

Where was it a criticism? I said that literally the sentence after expressing concern that a biden Government will be very pro War and full of the people who have proven to act on starting new wars

Maybe stop jumping at shadows

 

[Smiles and Cries]

If it helps any major war with china will kill every human on the planet. So either it wont happen, or everyone else dies with you. There can be no conventional war between nuclear armed countries.

On another note I have lost a bunch of weight, still have a job, and starting playing the guitar again. I fully expect an alien invasion in the fall, and even worse...No college football .

Humans are weird and stupid, China is right now making deals with Iran to screw with Trump, just because we have nukes involved does not mean they will take great care to avoid a war. Maybe we enter a long period of a new Cold War but things are headed in the wrong direction.

I have been having both good and bad luck in 2020
So far my most successful year ever with my art projects. 2020 is not going to be easy to forget.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Where was it a criticism? I said that literally the sentence after expressing concern that a biden Government will be very pro War and full of the people who have proven to act on starting new wars

Maybe stop jumping at shadows

When someone is "too much" of something it's generally not a good thing.

 

[Yoboman]

Yes!! all this corona nonsense is just a liberal hoax to get people dependent on government. Next they will take our right to protect ourselves and freedoms. At that point, its pretty much childs play to rewrite the laws to just pad the pockets of Pelosi and George Soros.





You're only looking at the surface. There are powerful people out there looking to subvert our freedoms by making Trump and other patriots look bad. The coronavirus is just another tool in their arsenal and is very effective at making people replace rational thought with fear. If you live with fear, then you are basically just cattle ready to be herded.

The fact any of you still think Trump is a patriot and fighting for you is laughable. They are ALL (Republicans, Democrats) in the pocket of big business and the 1%. They are not fighting for you and never were

 

[GeorgPrime]

I almost feel like things have become normalised but every now and then I just realise how insane the period we are living in is even compared to just a few months ago - and that we are just at the start. Sometimes it just pings me how insane everything is, this time just listening to the radio and every single ad mentioned Covid. Even a damn McDonald's ad

Covid wiping out hundreds of thousands
A huge portion of people across the world stuck in their homes
Entire industries shut down
Historically high unemployment, rent and mortgage default
A looming depression/ great recession
Clear signs that those in power don't give a shit, and are completely incompetent from both parties
Mass civil unrest
Highest level of political tension amongst the working class that I've been alive for
I can't even shake peoples hands anymore and social distancing is the new expectation
Plus Kobe died

And yet a few months in its become the new normal. Like the normalcy of life 6 months ago was another lifetime ago.

I keep feeling like things will be back to normal in a month but really we are going to be living with this and the fallout from it for years.

My biggest worry now is the equally incompetent but far more war hawkish Biden government comes into power - who are essentially made up of a lot of George W Bush Never Trumpers. And we get a new war to top it off.

I dont like Trump but I think he is both too independent, too anti war and honestly too cowardly to start a war

- I lost my job
- Being apart from my wife for almost a year know and it doesnt seem to change soon (cant travel to her country due to corona and they think about extending it for 6 months)
- Lost my company that friends founded due to incompetence of other people
- Stuck at families guest room now
- Looking for new appartment but without job quite hard.
- Everything i do takes days to get answered and stuff.
- Iam stuck with 10.000 Euro study debt because government fucked me over while i was studying and need to get rid of it before i can get my wife to move to me.

Iam tired of that shit. Iam tired of how our world is lead by incompetent people. Iam tired about all those psychos trying to get more power. Iam tired of germany and all the other stuff.

Germany is a fucking retard country and the rest of the world still believes in the quality of germany that is non existent anymore. Country gets more and more exploited from foreign countries and i dont want to know how many pedophiles and other fucking psychos have political power.

Iam still waiting for Germany to break down after Covid now. They are doing more and more everyday to destroy the country.

And the worst is yet to come. It wont be over soon.

 

[Joe T.]

I said on both sides, so if you disagree with me then you're dismissing all the shit pulled by the right wing and republicans, you know, those who were in power and pushed through most policies in the late 70's and 80's which is fucking people over now, if you don't think that's an issue then you've got your head shoved so far up your ass you just want to blame the left.

I suppose there won't be much to discuss after that response, you've made it a black and white issue where one side is to blame for everything. I pointed out an inconvenient truth about the brainwashing/propaganda we both agreed was a problem, tell you it's best to detach people from it all, and you tell me I'm a partisan that has his head up his ass for doing it.

 

[YCoCg]

I suppose there won't be much to discuss after that response, you've made it a black and white issue where one side is to blame for everything.

Oh come on, my point is clear, yes we agree on one thing but it doesn't mean I'm going to disbelieve what I know, I'm not just blaming ONE side but ONE side is responsible for a lot of the financial fuck ups and breakdown of society over greed, can you agree with that?

 

[and 3 others]

- I lost my job
- Being apart from my wife for almost a year know and it doesnt seem to change soon (cant travel to her country due to corona and they think about extending it for 6 months)
- Lost my company that friends founded due to incompetence of other people
- Stuck at families guest room now
- Looking for new appartment but without job quite hard.
- Everything i do takes days to get answered and stuff.
- Iam stuck with 10.000 Euro study debt because government fucked me over while i was studying and need to get rid of it before i can get my wife to move to me.

Iam tired of that shit. Iam tired of how our world is lead by incompetent people. Iam tired about all those psychos trying to get more power. Iam tired of germany and all the other stuff.

Germany is a fucking retard country and the rest of the world still believes in the quality of germany that is non existent anymore. Country gets more and more exploited from foreign countries and i dont want to know how many pedophiles and other fucking psychos have political power.

Iam still waiting for Germany to break down after Covid now. They are doing more and more everyday to destroy the country.

And the worst is yet to come. It wont be over soon.

Got damn, I was gonna come bitch about my life, but I'll see myself out!

 

[DragoonWalker]

Oh come on, my point is clear, yes we agree on one thing but it doesn't mean I'm going to disbelieve what I know, I'm not just blaming ONE side but ONE side is responsible for a lot of the financial fuck ups and breakdown of society over greed, can you agree with that?

Gonna be honest, I think two party politics are for plebs. The guys with all the money, the guys who've fucked us over, they're on the side of money and profit. They'll exploit whoever and whatever gives them that.

 

[Insane Metal]

This year FUCKING SUCKS

 

[Richard Packer]

How can you kill that which has no life?