Mister Apoc
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this might be the coolest space marine from the lore.. he has a sword, a spear and goddamm wings, and he is leading an army it seems behind him and in front of him
It will be over only when GW stops making a profit on 30k.Oh boy I got up to like book 10 of the Horus heresy years ago and stopped for some reason. Is it over yet?
are primarchs more powerful than astartes?Sanguinius is a Primarch and not a Space Marine.
These guys are Space Marines:
Asterion Moloc
Asterion Moloc, known as the "Master of the Minotaurs," "Satrap of the Daedelos Krata," "Bringer of Wrath," "The Brazen Warlord" and "Spear of Judgement," is the current Chapter Master of the fearsome and brutal Minotaurs Space Marine Chapter. This paranoid and bloody-handed Astartes commander...warhammer40k.fandom.com
Tyberos
Tyberos, "The Red Wake", Reaper Lord of the Void, is the Chapter Master or "Shade Lord" of the Carcharodons Chapter of Space Marines and ship's master of the fabled battle barge Nicor. He also serves simultaneously as Company Master of the Carcharodons' elite 1st Company, better known as the...warhammer40k.fandom.com
Kaldor Draigo - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
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are primarchs more powerful than astartes?
so who are those guys behing Sanguinius......do they know who he is?A lot more powerful. Twenty-one were specially created by the God Emperor as his "Sons" to lead the Astartes legions and each Primarch has some level of psychic ability that enhances their skills and abilities.
Basically, Primarch>Custodes>Astartes.
so who are those guys behing Sanguinius......do they know who he is?
He's a natural red head. He dyes his hair.Who stole his pants and why did he dye his pubes red?
how do they feel about Sanguinius though?Those would be the most elite Space Marines of the Blood Angels legion that Sanguinius leads, the Sanguinary Guard.
Sanguinary Guard
The Sanguinary Guard, known during the Great Crusade as the Ikisat or the "Burning Ones," for their ardour and unwavering devotion, are the most elite Veteran Astartes of the Blood Angels Space Marine Chapter. The Sanguinary Guard essentially serves as the Blood Angels' version of a Chapter...warhammer40k.fandom.com
how do they feel about Sanguinius though?
now that primarchs are more powerful than astartes, but by how much....Space Marines tend to look at their Primarchs with admiration and in the case of Sanguinius, they would view him as a loving, irreplaceable father-figure second to only the Emperor and would stand with their Primarch until death under any circumstance.
A lot more powerful. Twenty-one were specially created by the God Emperor as his "Sons" to lead the Astartes legions and each Primarch has some level of psychic ability that enhances their skills and abilities.
Basically, Primarch>Custodes>Astartes.
now that primarchs are more powerful than astartes, but by how much....
1 primarch equals like what 5 astartes would you say? or more than that?
It's indeterminate. They are portrayed as peerless and so are only ever killed via acts of suicide or one of their own. If they are ever defeated in battle it is often through great effort and sacrifice but the defeats are temporary.
In theory, you should be able to swarm them with Astartes but how much and how is up to the writer. Since Primarchs are limited in number, the writers don't usually place them in absurd places or odds they shouldn't get out of, like tanking an entire Hive fleet or Tombworld by themselves.
In that sense they are plot-shielded.
Isn't he dead though?
this might be the coolest space marine from the lore.. he has a sword, a spear and goddamm wings, and he is leading an army it seems behind him and in front of him
There is more of a gulf, on average, between Custodes and Astartes than Primarch and Custodes. IIRC Valdor and a few other Custodes are supposed to be able to match Primarchs.
To put this into perspective, the Custodes are to the Emperor what the Astartes are to the Primarchs. In a lot of ways the Custodes are lesser Primarchs - they are based off of the Emperor's own genetics just like the Primarchs are, but with less specialization and modification and less of the Warp influence that went into creating the Primarchs (which is why the Custodes appear to be incorruptible).
The Astartes are built off one of the Primarchs' genes to create independent and specialized Gene Seed lines, so they are further removed from the Emperor, have all the (Warp-induced) flaws of their respective Primarchs, and have further mutation due to the Gene Seeds being unstable in themselves. It appears that the Emperor and his engineers intended for the Primarchs to always be around to periodically reinforce their Astartes Gene Seeds lines, but the Loyalist Primarchs are dead/running around the Warp/in stasis aside from one, Roboute Guilliman.
who is this guy in the middle, the big guy with the giant sword....is that an astarte or another primarch?
what you mean they are rebooting it?Those.. douches.
They are rebooting 40K in a similar fashion as what they did to WH:Fantasy.
Welps, hope there are new cool minis to paint atleast, not buying anymore books.
i now have to quiz your 40k lore knowledge AtrusPrimarchs are portrayed to have possessing some sort of special characteristic to them that makes them something beyond in capability. You don't expect a bunch of Minotaurs or a Chaos Sorceror to kill a Primarch as they've done with Custodes.
That's Rogal Dorn, Primarch of the Imperial Fists who you see in yellow power armour beside him. Basically, if you see a giant, armoured human towering over even the Astartes, he's likely a Primarch. Just a few posts above you'll find the Primarch Roboute Guilliman towering over his Ultramarines Astartes.
i now have to quiz your 40k lore knowledge Atrus
name these primarchs left to right
Considering the scale of W40K the scenes would be prohibitory expensive e.g. skirmishes with Chaos during Black Crusade involve millions.I wonder if the world could handle a TV show based on the Horus Heresy. Might have to see how the LOTR show winds up first.
i now have to quiz your 40k lore knowledge Atrus
name these primarchs left to right
from what I read it was actually Lorgar more so than Horus that started the heresy... would you agree with that?Sanguinius (Wings), Mortarion (Noxious Green Atmosphere), Magnus the Red (Red Giant), Angron (Butchers Nails), Jaghatai Khan (Topnot), Lorgar Aurelian (tattoos), Rogal Dorn (gold suit, short white hair), Horus Lupercal (Wolf pelt and Eye of Horus) and Fulgrim (white hair, purple suit).
from what I read it was actually Lorgar more so than Horus that started the heresy... would you agree with that?