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60s children imagine life in 2000
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strange headache
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Intelligent, articulated, well-behaved, calm and reasoned.
What is this witchcraft from the 60s?
What is this witchcraft from the 60s?
JimmyRustler
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No witchcraft, just different parenting.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Not witchcraft at all. These kids lived in a world without TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, the internet, Netflix video games etc etc.
darkangel-212559
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This is what happens when society was still in a decent state. Where social media didn't exist and discipline and values were still existing in the education system and at home.
If anything this video is a damming exposure on society and the state of kids and teenagers today.
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JimmyRustler
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At this point it's not just teens mate.
Putting outside influences like TikTok etc. aside, when I look at most people I know in their late 20s and early 30s I have a hard time believing that they could spawn anything remotely resembling the children like you see in this video.
jezhumphrey75
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damn so well spoken, where the dumbass kids at?
Aggelos
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I'd say, very interesting points of view, indeed.
I listened to those children carefully, and I must say that they seem to have referred to truths (or even alluded) that ring a bell today, but for the standards of the '60s they were more like generic assumptions about the future life.
So, not to put a fine point on it. while I wouldn't consider any witchcraft going on here that gives those children clairvoyance, I'd say they were pretty spot on.
I listened to those children carefully, and I must say that they seem to have referred to truths (or even alluded) that ring a bell today, but for the standards of the '60s they were more like generic assumptions about the future life.
So, not to put a fine point on it. while I wouldn't consider any witchcraft going on here that gives those children clairvoyance, I'd say they were pretty spot on.
darkangel-212559
Banned
Kids were generally much more intelligent back then.
Sybrix
Member
Not really.
I showed my parents this video, they are in their 60s/70s now and would have been the same age as these kids at the time and they said these kids in these videos are proper posh kids, most likely privately educated and well off.
Put a video in front of middle class kids today and you'll hear and see the same results
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Wildebeest
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This is what the boomers were like before the lead poisoning and drugs finally got them.
Dr.D00p
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Maybe but remember these were the kids that inflicted the Millennials on the World, which lets be honest, is where it all started to go horribly wrong.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Socialism/multiculturalism hadn't yet dragged everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
Cyberpunkd
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No constant dopamine rush making you unfocused or focused on superfluous things that do not matter.
Cyberpunkd
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It is also interesting to note this probably was before contraceptives and abortion became widely available, so the kids were period-correctly freaking out about population control. Also 'red scare'.
Wildebeest
Member
This was the peak of social democracy in Britain. It only got more free market and right wing afterwards. That said, these kids were obviously posh and probably had private tuition. The BBC wouldn't have deigned to talk to any smelly, unwashed kids of a lower class than them at the time.
strange headache
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Ah yes, the '60s, when the youth were composed, stoic, and thoughtful.
Cool vid though! Lots of prescient takes.
Difference being that this dramatic level of idolatry and media exposure were the exception, while in today's hyperconnected turbo consumer society, media hype is pretty much a constant state of being.
Attention span has been in constant decline, while emotional excitation is pretty much encouraged for marketing purposes. This happens across all ages and societal classes.
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Ionian
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100% this.
chromhound
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Internet messed everything up
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No it wasn't. You can't track simply based on which party was in power either when so much culturally and sociologically is driven by the media, non-governmental institutions and local councils.
For example the 1960's and 1970's represented the peak years of union power in the UK. The 1960's being particularly being important in terms of social change, and the 1970's being more about economic change; the country was bankrupt in the mid 1970's after all! Hence Jim Callaghan going cap-in-hand to the IMF for a bail-out.
The footage in the OP is unthinkable today because its aspirational and not trying to be "representational". Wokism is the thick end of the same wedge that started with 1960's radical politics - philosophies that first gained purchase in "loony left" local councils.
Wildebeest
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You are trapped in the current world view of "culture wars" where people battle on dumb cultural issues because there is not a hair of difference between any parties when it comes to the economy or state. In the 60s the UK had an actual social democracy movement. It believed in welfare reforms, universal healthcare reforms, education reforms, industry reforms. Probably one of the last government social democrat achievements out of the gate was the "Concorde" supersonic passenger jet. Real social democrats like to nationalize railways and modernize the infrastructure, and not so much put more black people in period drama TV shows just because they can.
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Mate, I'm 55 years old. I grew up poor working class in the 1970's, I went through higher education in the early 1980's, and throughout that time the overwhelmingly dominant politics I was exposed to was all heavily left-leaning.
The world I knew is wildly dissimilar from that which is represented in the "culture" and social history as presented within the media. I take my views from that more than the current culture-war phenomenon, which as I wrote before seem to be just the end-stage version of the same rhetoric and philosophy that first gained purchase back in the 60's and 70's.
My issue then and now is not with the impulse behind socialism and multi-culturalism, its the implementation being so damagingly counter-productive.
And I have to say that the culture war is not an issue that should ever be seen as secondary; its absolutely central because its influencing the world-view of the masses, which in turn drives electoral behaviour, and electoral behaviour drives national policy and the means to oppose elements of such policy.
Wildebeest
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Just because you are not a kid, it doesn't mean you cannot be too concerned about culture wars issues. As you say, you were a kid in the 70s. You did not fight in World War 2 and come back home with a mission to reform and reshape Britain because you were sick of seeing how shit things could be and wanted something better. It is exactly your generation that "benefitted" from selling out that social democratic vision and then retreated to culture wars issues as a way of feeling they were doing some real good, even though they were mainly focussed on how much their house was worth.
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Every generation wants their kids to have a better and more comfortable existence than they had. That's a basic, human, trait that crosses all cultures and nationalities. However that isn't to say that their hopes, dreams, and efforts will bear fruit.
Objectively I doubt anyone returning from WW2 could imagine modern Britain, even on fundamentals like population and average life expectancy the difference between then and now is staggering. The welfare state for example as set up by Atlee's government was formulated under radically different circumstances, and although I can't argue that their intentions weren't noble and good, you can't say it was politically flawless. Hell, Labour subsequently were out of power by 1951 and it took until 1964 for them to regain government.
Its funny really, the period between 1964 and 1979 was one dominated by Labour governments, and despite it being one of vast social and economic change its much less discussed these days than the Thatcher years that followed.
Most people these days I think do not realize how grim the 70's were, which is unfortunate as I suspect we're about to experience a re-run in the next few years.
BouncyFrag
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BigDeadFreak
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When Britain embraced social democracy after the war the left still placed a very high emphasis on hard work, personal responsibility and traditional values. As a result, socialism worked very well in its early years and helped to even out a lot of the unfair differences that had occurred between rich and poor.
However, when left wing ideas take hold people realise that there is an alternative route to success. Rather than apply yourself as best you can and only accept help if you've fallen through the cracks or made genuine mistakes you can instead behave in a deliberately unproductive way knowing that help will always be on hand. Why abstain from sex until you've found someone you really want to be with when you can just drunkenly shag anyone you want knowing the state will pay for a flat and give you benefits if you fall pregnant? Why look after your health when the NHS promises you free medicine to cure whatever ails you? Why strive earn more money by working harder when you can just go on strike and achieve the same results?
I think it's great to have some level of welfare state (education, unemployment benefit, healthcare, etc.) but you have to keep a tight rein on it otherwise you end up rewarding failure. Unfortunately, we now have a toxic combination of social attitudes that promote terrible behaviour and a state that is increasingly taking from the poor to give to the rich.
However, when left wing ideas take hold people realise that there is an alternative route to success. Rather than apply yourself as best you can and only accept help if you've fallen through the cracks or made genuine mistakes you can instead behave in a deliberately unproductive way knowing that help will always be on hand. Why abstain from sex until you've found someone you really want to be with when you can just drunkenly shag anyone you want knowing the state will pay for a flat and give you benefits if you fall pregnant? Why look after your health when the NHS promises you free medicine to cure whatever ails you? Why strive earn more money by working harder when you can just go on strike and achieve the same results?
I think it's great to have some level of welfare state (education, unemployment benefit, healthcare, etc.) but you have to keep a tight rein on it otherwise you end up rewarding failure. Unfortunately, we now have a toxic combination of social attitudes that promote terrible behaviour and a state that is increasingly taking from the poor to give to the rich.
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wow, it's no wonder why younger generations hate boomers.
DeepEnigma
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And actual curriculum.
AJUMP23
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Well it is these people in schools in the 60s that got into power and said, lets make school about something other than education. Lets make it about spoon feeding indoctrination. No longer will you need to think critically we will just tell you everything.
EverydayBeast
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Aggressive hot takes from 60s kids.
BigBooper
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A bunch of depressing kids that lot is. From the looks of them, most of them were born just after the end of WW2.
It's amazing how much can fit into a short span of time. There was more change in their generation than in mine I think. I feel like society's been following a fairly predictable trajectory for a while now. Maybe it would have been difficult 40 years ago to predict how dominant the internet and networking would be in everyone's lives.
It's amazing how much can fit into a short span of time. There was more change in their generation than in mine I think. I feel like society's been following a fairly predictable trajectory for a while now. Maybe it would have been difficult 40 years ago to predict how dominant the internet and networking would be in everyone's lives.
gizmopub999
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This pretty much this
TheDreadBaron
Member
My wife once interviewed to tutor some rich kids, only problem was they were already smarter than her. They had been specially tutored their whole lives, and sounded something like these kids. If we recorded a video of them and watched it in 60 years it wouldn’t tell us much about society as a whole. I also wonder how they prepped these kids, did they all watch the same film before being asked about the future or is this truly off the cuff? While I don’t think this tells us that people have gotten dumber, it’s a cool video nonetheless, thanks for sharing!
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Damn kids wearing suits and shit
nush
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teezzy
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Thank god we have Fortnite now tbh
Kagey K
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I got the strap once in school.
I retaliated, by stealing it and giving to a friend for his birthday, because he got it much more than I did.
We ended up cutting it up into ribbons and returning it to the principal without him knowing It was us.
(We also pissed in his desk, so it was floating in 1000 pieces when he found it.)
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BlueAlpaca
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If only these kids are now old enough to run the world with their calm and reasoned wisdom.
DragoonKain
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Kids have access to more information now so they actually in some ways can even be considered smarter, the problem is they also clutter their brains with more bullshit.
A kid in the 1960s would not be more knowledgeable and savvy with technology than their parents were, which is often the case today, kids are masters of tech by the age of like 10. But at the same time their minds are cluttered with trivial nonsense.
The idiocy in the 60s is different. The idiocy back then seemed to be more naive because of the lack of overall knowledge at their disposal, but their worries and concerns were more on their own lives than the lives of others on the other side of the country or world like it is today.
A kid in the 1960s would not be more knowledgeable and savvy with technology than their parents were, which is often the case today, kids are masters of tech by the age of like 10. But at the same time their minds are cluttered with trivial nonsense.
The idiocy in the 60s is different. The idiocy back then seemed to be more naive because of the lack of overall knowledge at their disposal, but their worries and concerns were more on their own lives than the lives of others on the other side of the country or world like it is today.
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6502
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People shagging at 16 to get a council flat are not doing it because of their left wing values. It is a lack of values, or rather a consequence of a lack of investment in education and jobs for these kids to go to - removing hope and aspirations from entire towns - which was directly caused by the policies of deindustrialisation and putting all of our eggs into the London finance sector. These were not policies of the left...
