7.0 earthquake hits Haiti, death toll may reach 200,000

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DOO13ER said:
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PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (AP) - Leading Haitian senator: Deaths may reach 500,000 based on destruction, but no firm figures.
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From a few post up.

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holy god, Al-jazeera English is showing raw footage of people dying and dead in the rubble. This is messed up beyond belief.
 
Only 3 pages? And 17 for the Conan thread. Ha. Ha. =/

The country is fucking doomed. I don't know how the hell it can go better from now on. 500k potential deaths, cities completely destroyed, criminals escaped from prison... how could this get any worst?
 
R2D4 said:
It's on all the news channels. What else do you want them to do?
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I think he meant more attention on GAF, but I could be wrong.

I am amazed that the toll could be that high.

Can't even imagine how many people are suffering/trapped right now as I type this. Makes my stomach churn.
 
If the title was edited to say "Around 500.000 possibly dead in Haiti earthquake".
I think it'd get more attention.
 
Anyone know of a site to donate to other than yele.org. I know wycliffe is backing it, but the site has no SSL certificate and I'm not going to put my CC info on there and risk losing the $18 in my checking account...
 
Pat Robertson weighs in
And you know Christy, something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about it. They were under the heel of the French, uh you know Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said we will serve you if you'll get us free from the French. True Story, and so the Devil said OK it's a deal. And they kicked the French out. You know, the Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since they've been cursed by one thing after the other desperately poor. That island is Hispaniola is one island. It's cut down the middle. On one side is Haiti on the other side is the Dominican republic. Dominican Republic is prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etc.. Haiti is in desperate poverty. Same island. Uh, they need to have, and we need to pray for them a great turning to God and out of this tragedy. I'm optimistic something good may come but right now we're helping the suffering people and the suffering is unimaginable.
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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2...ertson-finds-his-own-blame-for-the-earthquake.

In a perfect world a journalist would ask Obama about this, and he'd call the comments ignorant and offensive. Too bad these fucktards can say anything they want and go under the radar while the media chases whatever gotcha moment is relevant.
 
R&R said:
WTF...the destruction is beyond belief! Fuck...I have served in several peacekeeping operations and whatever but this...just total destruction...never seen anything like it.
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It's the most powerful earthquake in a century, apparently. And for an earthquake like that to hit a country with the infrastructure and economy of Haiti... it's just a complete disaster on every level.
 
Zeliard said:
It's the most powerful earthquake in a century, apparently.
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The one in the Indian Ocean back in 2004 was a 9.3, the second most powerful ever recorded.

Most powerful in the caribbean maybe?
 
Once again, for those who want to help Haiti, Food for The Poor is one of the leading charities for the country. They have built schools, farms, homes, etc...I have seen it first hand with my own eyes. This money will go directly to Haiti.

http://www.foodforthepoor.org/haitiquake

The Red Cross is a great organization, but there focus is still spread throughout the world.

FFP is focused on the Carribean and Latin American countries.

http://www.foodforthepoor.org/about/
 
How the hell is 500,000 even possible? That's almost twice as many deaths as the Indonesia quake. Is Haiti really that densely populated? I haven't heard of a death toll that high since the Chinese quakes several centuries ago.
 
BattleMonkey said:
Death Toll could reach 500k they are saying, but they are saying right now about 100k dead with the number rising.
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No, I think they're saying it may top 100.000 actually, at least according to CNN.
 
ItsInMyVeins said:
No, I think they're saying it may top 100.000 actually, at least according to CNN.
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CNN is not the one saying 500k. Lot of numbers being quoted but it's all just guesses at this point, no one is going to have anything concrete. A big factor is also the thousands of wounded who can end up dying in the next couple days/weeks.
 
Zeliard said:
It's the most powerful earthquake in a century, apparently.
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Earthquakes that powerful tend to strike every year, somewhere. It's certainly the most powerful quake to hit Haiti in a couple centuries, however.

And yeah, it's hard to imagine a country more ill-prepared and unable to cope. Really unfortunate. Just when they seemed to be turning a corner, too. Hopefully, the disaster aid will transition into some sort of ongoing... support.
 
ChoklitReign said:
How the hell is 500,000 even possible? That's almost twice as many deaths as the Indonesia quake. Is Haiti really that densely populated? I haven't heard of a death toll that high since the Chinese quakes several centuries ago.
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There are 10 million people in that little country. Do a little googling; Haiti's population density is 31st in the world, and is about three times as high as that of either China or Indonesia.

PhoenixDark said:
Pat Robertson weighs in

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2...ertson-finds-his-own-blame-for-the-earthquake.

In a perfect world a journalist would ask Obama about this, and he'd call the comments ignorant and offensive. Too bad these fucktards can say anything they want and go under the radar while the media chases whatever gotcha moment is relevant.
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Yet another fine example of how even worthless charlatans can achieve success and fame in the world.
 
The situation is really, really serious. Chaotic I'd say. I was reading some Brazilian newspapers (there's a big number of Brazilian military personnel In Haiti, leading the UN's peacekeeping mission) and the stories they told to some newspapers are terrible, one of them said that there were so many dead bodies on the streets, so many people screaming for help that he stood still for like 1 minute because he didn't have any idea about what to do.

When even the presidential palace falls apart, you wonder what have happened to the regular buildings.
 
When I heard the initial 7.0 quake, I didn't think that much damage would result. I didn't realize where it hit exactly and how weak the building infrastructure was in Haiti. Good lord that's a massive swath of destruction. :(
 
What I don't understand is why buildings put up my major international entities, like the UN, weren't built to modern standards?
 
Awful. :(

Even trying to imagine 500.000 dead people is very disturbing. :(

I sincerely hope that this numbers are vastly overblown, but even 100.000 dead people is an unimaginable tragedy.
 
The death toll is almost meaningless. The first video yesterday told the whole story. You don't have that dense a population with that kind of shoddy construction and not expect massive losses of life. All that dust cloud told me was that a lot of people got buried. The landslides were bad enough, this earthquake is gonna eclipse that. Due to the circumstances, it's gonna be as bad as the tsunami disaster.

One of my students is actually going over there tonight to help rescue a friend. Flying to DR and then taking a heli over. I told her to be safe. The situation is as desperate and dire as it can get. It's not exactly advisable entering such a situation when aid is already so scarce. I hope for the best. PEACE.
 
Klyka said:
Question: Does Haiti produce/export/grow/etc... any important things for the world market?
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Not very strategic for resources or military, which is why it's been allowed to fall into such a shitty state. If they had oil or communists, we might care more. :( PEACE.
 
Pimpwerx said:
Not very strategic for resources or military, which is why it's been allowed to fall into such a shitty state. If they had oil or communists, we might care more. :( PEACE.
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Ok thanks.
 
I remember during the 2004 tsunami, we were talking about 5,000 dead. Then 20,000. Suddenly 100,000. In the end there were roughly 250,000 dead.

That 500,000 number doesn't sound like a conservative estimate and is certainly an effort to draw more attention to the crisis. But it could be accurate. If there were 1.1 million densely-packed in Port-Au Prince, you'd imagine there were many outside of the city that were similarly affected.

It's difficult for me to appreciate what is going on. The scale of the deaths is incredible. What is the difference to me between 500,000 and 100,000 deaths? 5x more and +400,000. But the most I can react with is a little more shock than I've already got. And if only 200 people died, do I reply with much less horror, besides being less impressed by the amount of dead? My capacity for distant empathy is pretty limited, I guess.
 
For sports GAF, think of it this way. If 500k are dead, that would be like Jerry Jones' new stadium filled to capacity...





FIVE TIMES.



This is awful. I hope the world can come together to support this little nation.
 
Klyka said:
Question: Does Haiti produce/export/grow/etc... any important things for the world market?
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no, it's almost completely desolate. There are a TON of problems in Haiti..way before the recent hurricanes, and of course this quake. The country is one of the poorest (if not the poorest) in the world.
 
500,000 seems way high, this early in the game. Hopefully that's just the guess of a hysterical local politician trying to galvanize international support.

Having said that, preliminary causality reports (not estimates) following big quakes are always laughably low. Like, by a factor of 10. For instance if you hear, "Turkey reports casualties of close to 1,500", you're pretty safe in assuming that the toll will eventually approach 15k.

So, that aspect is disturbing.
 
PantherLotus said:
This is awful. I hope the world can come together to support this little nation.
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More importantly, hopefully the world doesn't forget about this little nation...again. Haiti only makes the news when there's a disaster, or when we turn away boatloads of refugees. PEACE.
 
How this is not getting more attention here is amazing
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In a way I kinda understand. People see it on the news, it's everywhere- what is there to say? It's not like there's a lot of insight most people can offer by posting in this thread. I'm sure everyone is horrified by what's happened, but there may just not be a lot to say in the matter. Certainly not the occassion for quips and puns.
 
rhino4evr said:
no, it's almost completely desolate. There are a TON of problems in Haiti..way before the recent hurricanes, and of course this quake. The country is one of the poorest (if not the poorest) in the world.
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Obviously this is all because they made a deal with Satan to get the French out of their country. Obviously.
 
Holy fuck, could this have been even more deady than the Sumatra earthquake/tsunami? If the death count hits 300K-500K it would be the worst disaster since modern history, no doubt.
 
I'm glad that fucking palace crumbled. A palace in a country so poor is sickening. Listening to the president talk to Sanjay right now is embarrassiing. He says he can't grasp the scope of the disaster? Pfft. You have failed your people miserably, sir. It's only fitting he should be one of the homeless now. PEACE.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Pat Robertson weighs in

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2...ertson-finds-his-own-blame-for-the-earthquake.

In a perfect world a journalist would ask Obama about this, and he'd call the comments ignorant and offensive. Too bad these fucktards can say anything they want and go under the radar while the media chases whatever gotcha moment is relevant.
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well I'm Haitian and I heard this before about the origins of Voodoo, so yeah this is part of the folklore that Missionaries use to convert poor Haitian on the island to their own agenda by telling them they are on the wrong side of good and Evil and Haiti is cursed because of it. You would not believe how many Evangelical Churches in the U.S. use this same story to start a base in Haiti. Its a major scam you say you have something in Haiti and money pours in but where does the money go? ugh
 
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