A message from the Call of Duty team. ("We will no longer do back-to-back releases of Modern Warfare or Black Ops games")

we will deliver, and overdeliver, on those expectations as we move forward.
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More curious to see how they plan to go back to 3 year dev cycles. Unless they have a forth studio making an entry?

People don't seem to understand that MWIII and BLOPS7 only exist because they couldn't pump out proper mainline games within that timeframe post covid. Its was a sticking plaster solution created by Activision not MS.

Also MWIII was the best COD in a very long time.
 
Tarnpanzer said:
If your main focus is the campaign, you made the right moves there.

If your main focus is multiplayer, you missed the better games both times.
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Yup, MWIII righted all the wrongs of II and turn out great. Not put enough time into 7 to form an opinion but seems like a similar situation.
 
A few years ago it felt like Warzone basically replaced main COD in popularity and users, and now that Warzone is dying off, they can't get mainline MP back on track. I can't see the franchise dying a sudden death like Guitar Hero, but under MS management, they'll be struggling to get it back to its peak.

It also doesn't help that the past few have been utter shit games.

Nice to see Battlefield bouncing back though.
 
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BF6 still didn't knock CoD off on consoles, a poor sale year for CoD is still a top selling game of the year. It's fluctuated its entire life, like people haven't heard CoD is dead before on a prior bad release..

They'll be completely fine, we need to ditch last gen, and back to back launches was always a terrible idea.
 
Holy shit! But its needed, push the change. This is what happens when there is competition and gamers let their wallet speak instead bitching here.
 
Complete bollocks.

The statement is made to sound like the thing people want to hear, which is "we'll pace out these games so that each release is meaningfully different and exciting" whereas if you actually read it, they are really only saying "we are not going to release two Black Ops games in a row or two Warfare games in a row again" which is totally moot since they have done it only once in 20 years.
 
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Mattyp said:
BF6 still didn't knock CoD off on consoles, a poor sale year for CoD is still a top selling game of the year. It's fluctuated its entire life, like people haven't heard CoD is dead before on a prior bad release..

They'll be completely fine, we need to ditch last gen, and back to back launches was always a terrible idea.
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It's still in the top 3 on the ps5 store from what I can tell.
 
Call of Duty: BO7 - 2025
Call of Duty: To Big To Fail - 2026
Call of Duty: MW47 - 2027
Call of Duty: BO8 - 2028
Call of Duty: To Big To Fail 2 - 2029
Call of Duty: MW48 - 2030

So this is what they mean?
 
Gubaldo said:
Do something new man!!
They are just Bouncing back and forth. Meh
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Maybe drop a proper full on remake of the original CoD? In between BLOPS and MW releases... I know I would certainly lap that up. Multiplayer would have all of the modern day QoL features, unlocks, challenges and what not but everything else would be as close to the original as possible.

Ironsight Kar98k let's gooooo!
 
Weren't the calls for both back-to-back Cod Titles a Microsoft decision, or at least heavily implied to be.

like MW3 was rushed out because they still had a marketing deal for Sony so they turned DLC into a full game just to fart it out and keep the "real" next call of duty for themselves.
 
Generic said:
They should go further and make CoD biannual. Two dev teams would be enough (each game would take 4 years to develop). And cycle through past/present/future warfare for games.
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I thought they gave up on warfare in favor of Snoop, Minaj and scooby doo fing skins. Can't have a war when it's a bunch of modern ass slop costumed people to go with the persistent screeching high voiced kids playing these games.

Last one I played extensively was WWii and mw1(2019). My son still played and he told me, his exact quote "they ruined my boy" he said the franchise is ruined. I said you figured this out now? I knew it 5 years ago when they pushed all the br and goofy shit.

If the campaign is shit I'm not playing. Now they don't even have a single player campaign or real war settings. What a joke of a franchise, at this point.
 
Sticking with the idea to keep releasing CoD games every year will still hurt them. It's just not possible to deliver quality products, even if you have many teams at your disposal. Plus the fatigue will only grow stronger among their playerbase.
 
Gamer79 said:
Who is still buying this shit ? Same crap, year after year
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Millions of us. There is nothing else like it, and I personally always look forward to the next iteration. Doesn't mean I truly like every iteration…

Fess said:
I thought the campaign in BO7 seemed interesting but I stopped playing when they expected me to go through a whole mission a 4th time because there was no mid save point if I left the game or the game crashed.

Make it fully offline.

Add permanent save points mid mission.
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To date, the only campaign I haven't completed within a few weeks of release. It's knowing that I need to set aside an hour for a mission. Urgh. To be honest though, it is quite fun when you team up with somebody, and you have to give them credit for trying something new.


I'll never fully understand the hate on COD by folk that don't even play it. And now the extra hate from the folk that just don't like MS. It's the only consistently decent fast paced arena shooter out there, and a 'bad' COD has always still been a great game for me that gets a lot of my time.

Having said that, the franchise has definitely suffered from moving to the same unified engine and framework. Fatigue is real. Individual releases are struggling for identity as they all look and play pretty much the same. For example, I always preferred whatever engine the Black Ops studio used to use over the Modern Warfare guys. You could feel the difference in everything - movement, shooting, menus - and each iteration actually felt new.

Maybe a title release every 2 years would be a nice direction to explore, and allow them to generate some anticipation again.
 
xrnzaaas said:
Sticking with the idea to keep releasing CoD games every year will still hurt them. It's just not possible to deliver quality products, even if you have many teams at your disposal. Plus the fatigue will only grow stronger among their playerbase.
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I don't think this is necessarily true. I'd think you might have a point if they'd found after 3 or 4 years that fatigue was creeping in and quality was dropping.

But they've been putting out annual games for 20 years - they released the first game in 2003, then the next one followed in 2005, then for the next 20 years they put out a game per year. Gaming fatigue doesn't kick in at 20 years, it's much sooner.

This year hasn't been so warmly received, there's more competition than usual and Microsoft have owned the company for a couple of years. Particularly that latter point is being conflated with this latest game's performance, but I don't think that there's any real reason to think that Activision couldn't release a warmly received and big selling call of duty next year. There have been a couple of stinkers in the past and the series has come back just fine.
 
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No. It also doesn't really have a single player campaign either.
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Well, then I'm out. I don't play CoD often, but when I play it, I am a single-player only guy. I know that this is almost antithetical to CoD itself. But I just can't fucking stand multiplayer in modern FPS. I still play Quake 3 for my multiplayer FPS fix. I just hate all the meta progression shit and also the pacing in a matches in modern FPS games. But I know that I am an outlier in that regard, and that's ok.
 
BigLee74 said:
Millions of us. There is nothing else like it, and I personally always look forward to the next iteration. Doesn't mean I truly like every iteration…


To date, the only campaign I haven't completed within a few weeks of release. It's knowing that I need to set aside an hour for a mission. Urgh. To be honest though, it is quite fun when you team up with somebody, and you have to give them credit for trying something new.


I'll never fully understand the hate on COD by folk that don't even play it. And now the extra hate from the folk that just don't like MS. It's the only consistently decent fast paced arena shooter out there, and a 'bad' COD has always still been a great game for me that gets a lot of my time.

Having said that, the franchise has definitely suffered from moving to the same unified engine and framework. Fatigue is real. Individual releases are struggling for identity as they all look and play pretty much the same. For example, I always preferred whatever engine the Black Ops studio used to use over the Modern Warfare guys. You could feel the difference in everything - movement, shooting, menus - and each iteration actually felt new.

Maybe a title release every 2 years would be a nice direction to explore, and allow them to generate some anticipation again.
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Spot on mate. The hate the game gets from folks that don't play is unreal.

Game is always good for a quick blast especially with pals.

Definitely needs a shake up though.
 
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Nice. So the mega corp era is coming:
Hopefully they can alternate between
Halo/cod nextgen (rumor ghost of hope)/doom/ reboot ip (Quake/Hexen).

Expanding on cod ground war would be great.

Played battlefield 6 via free play weekend & it was not up to battlefield 3/4. Hopefully goty edition will have balance and improvements for 20 usd.

Nvm seems it was the blunder of having the same name back to back, yearly is still on but alt between sub franchises (ops/mw/ops future or remake).

Id gods please give us Quake Reboot or some rtx remix for q1 to 4.
 
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BigLee74 said:
To date, the only campaign I haven't completed within a few weeks of release. It's knowing that I need to set aside an hour for a mission. Urgh.
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Yeah for me it's literally destroying the game. And I don't play online so besides the campaign there is nothing there for me. 🤷‍♂️
 
My understanding has been the second year of each was more an expansion of the first year packaged as a new release. Based on that I'm guessing there's going to be a third entry to allow longer dev cycles of Black Ops and MW. Or they feel confident enough in AI assistance they can rotate annually going forward.
 
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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Like the comment right above you?




But this isn't what is being said, yearly releases are still the plan just not the same genre/setting in back to back years
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When I was a kid I really didn't understand why schools were pushing reading comprehension so hard. I moved states a lot and every new school would focus in on my reading\reading comprehension and if I needed help catching up. I was so confused how it was always the focus of any transfer I did. As I got older and started posting on forums I finally understood why.
 
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Not surprising. Both MW III and BO7 were such obviously half-assed efforts and sales/CCUs/whatever metric you want to look at paled in comparison to their direct predecessors.

If you can't get a whole, full-fledged package out annually then just offer the content as DLC for the prior title
 
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