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Aaron Hernandez Dead by Suicide

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Sanjuro

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Surprised by the large amount of conspiracy chatter suggesting he was murdered.

I hope they give more transparent details into how exactly he killed himself. From everything I've been hearing he is the first to do so in this facility and the sheer act is almost impossible.
 
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Kilvin

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Zombine said:
The tragedy here is that Hernandez was a man who had unlimited potential, money, and a family, but chose to throw it all away for a life of violence and machismo. The crimes he committed affected his own family, his little girl, and the lives of his victims families. Nobody wins here, and his death isn't a cause for celebration. If anything "good" comes from this, it's to show young people that literally nothing positive comes from that lifestyle, and to focus on the gifts that you were blessed with and use those gifts to help others.
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Very well said.
 
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Wereroku

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MisterR said:
That's incorrect. The evidence can be used but not the fact he was convicted.
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Actually it seems like the unlawful death civil trial was already completed except for the damages portion. That was of course completed with the conviction in place will that need to be redone or would his estate appeal because of the conviction being annulled?
 
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Frozenprince

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Sanjuro said:
Surprised by the large amount of conspiracy chatter suggesting he was murdered.

I hope they give more transparent details into how exactly he killed himself. From everything I've been hearing he is the first to do so in this facility and the sheer act is almost impossible.
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Was listening to sport radio and it's pretty ridiculous how much they are running with this.
 
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weird story to read as a non american. Read the first page, read the wiki on him, he sounds like human garbage and if anyone deserves a lonely death by their own hand, he'd be it. Couldnt tell that from reading the first page though.
 
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Chmpocalypse

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weird story to read as a non american. Read the first page, read the wiki on him, he sounds like human garbage and if anyone deserves a lonely death by their own hand, he'd be it. Couldnt tell that from reading the first page though.
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I'm an American. I completely agree with you.
 
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2Smashed4U

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MisterR said:
That's incorrect. The evidence can be used but not the fact he was convicted.
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Pretty sure you're wrong.

Through an obscure and rarely invoked Massachusetts legal principle called abatement ab initio, because Hernandez had not exhausted all his appeals on his murder conviction, that conviction is essentially now voided. The practical effect of this is that evidence from Hernandez’s criminal trial cannot be used in any potential civil trials against his estate.
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http://deadspin.com/aaron-hernandez-commits-suicide-in-prison-cell-1794445345
 
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Stinkles

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Sanjuro said:
Surprised by the large amount of conspiracy chatter suggesting he was murdered.

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Famous person dies unexpectedly.

Just heard a bunch of good news about his potential fate.

In a cell where suicide is supposed to be really hard.

Has previously shown no remorse and may enjoy some celebrity status in jail.


personally I assume he killed himself but it's hardly tinfoil hat territory either.
 
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Wereroku

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MisterR said:
Pretty sure deadspin is off on this one. The conviction is like it never happened but there should be no reason evidence could not be used again.
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Yeah the Boston Globe article doesn't mention anything about the evidence collected. The only think I can find in particular that could effect the civil trial is that the conviction being wiped would preclude the victim from claiming restitution since the crime was not legally perpetrated by the defendant anymore. But that was just from skimming a paper about another case.
 
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Brinbe

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He's a cowardly piece of garbage.
And I'd have more sympathy if he ever showed an ounce of remorse for anything he ever did. But he hasn't ever done that. He's a sociopath who took the easy way out.

Those saying RIP and all that sorta stuff must not know who he is and what he did. He's a punk who could play football and he threw it all away so he could continue to be hard/keep it real. Fuck Aaron Hernandez, even in death.
 
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Sanjuro

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Stinkles said:
Famous person dies unexpectedly.

Just heard a bunch of good news about his potential fate.

In a cell where suicide is supposed to be really hard.

Has previously shown no remorse and may enjoy some celebrity status in jail.


personally I assume he killed himself but it's hardly tinfoil hat territory either.
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I don't think it is either. I just mean it coming from active players and talking heads around the sport, it's a bit more surprising than the anonymous.
 
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Dr.Acula

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2Smashed4U said:
Pretty sure you're wrong.

Through an obscure and rarely invoked Massachusetts legal principle called abatement ab initio, because Hernandez had not exhausted all his appeals on his murder conviction, that conviction is essentially now voided. The practical effect of this is that evidence from Hernandez’s criminal trial cannot be used in any potential civil trials against his estate.
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http://deadspin.com/aaron-hernandez-commits-suicide-in-prison-cell-1794445345
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So it's something specific to Massachusetts? I know OJ was successfully sued by the Goldmans despite being found not guilty, but that's a different legal jurisdiction. I wonder if someone found not guilty can have evidence used against them in a civil case where a deceased person could not.
 
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jbug617

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MugiwaraCole

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Stinkles said:
Famous person dies unexpectedly.

Just heard a bunch of good news about his potential fate.

In a cell where suicide is supposed to be really hard.

Has previously shown no remorse and may enjoy some celebrity status in jail.


personally I assume he killed himself but it's hardly tinfoil hat territory either.
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What good news? He was serving life lmao.

I don't think him being murdered is impossible, or even improbable, but the man's life was over after living a millionaire lifestyle. Him killing himself makes perfect sense.
 
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Stinkles

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MugiwaraCole said:
What good news? He was serving life lmao.

I don't think him being murdered is impossible, or even improbable, but the man's life was over after living a millionaire lifestyle. Him killing himself makes perfect sense.
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He had his other (double) murder case dismissed AND was getting an appeal on his conviction. He may well have lost but that's FANTASTIC news for someone in that situation.
 
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p2535748

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Stinkles said:
He had his other (double) murder case dismissed AND was getting an appeal on his conviction. He may well have lost but that's FANTASTIC news for someone in that situation.
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I don't disagree with the general premise of your thinking, but I don't think the appeal was recent news or particularly telling. All first degree murder cases in Massachusetts are automatically appealed, and as far as I know, there hasn't been any recent news about it (like him getting a new trial or anything).
 
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I H8 Memes

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NFL is sweating bullets right now with that CTE examination. Not that they deserve it. Dude was shooting a car full of people @ 17 during his recruiting trip to Florida. Then he still chose to go to that college. He was just a moron.
 
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jbug617

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Seems like the new story is that Hernandez was struggling with his sexuality and may be the reason why he murdered Lloyd.
http://www.newsweek.com/aaron-hernandez-hidden-sexuality-murder-police-587879
But interviews with multiple law enforcement officials directly involved in the case say Lloyd—a semipro football player who was dating Hernandez’s fiance’s sister at the time—had information the football star did not want out: that he was bisexual.
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One of the notes left by Hernandez was to his prison boyfriend, who is now on 24/7 suicide watch, multiple law enforcement sources confirm. Hernandez’s sexuality would, of course, not be relevant save for the fact that an intimate relationship he allegedly had with a male former high school classmate was at the center of the investigation into Lloyd’s murder.
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Hernandez’s alleged longtime male lover, the high school friend, was interviewed extensively by authorities after Lloyd’s murder, and was forced to testify in front of a grand jury. Law enforcement officials also say Hernandez moved a large amount of money into three accounts shortly before his arrest for the Lloyd killing: one account was for his fiancée; a second was for his daughter; the third, where the most money was moved, was for that friend.
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kirblar

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Goose_Se7en said:
I don't believe any of it. Dude is dead, be paid his dues and now folks wanna say he was gay/bi or w.e.
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This isn't being done to demean or slur him, it's being done because they're being more open about the circumstances about what happened due to them no longer being concerned for his safety.
 
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Joe Shlabotnik

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kirblar said:
This isn't being done to demean or slur him, it's being done because they're being more open about the circumstances about what happened due to them no longer being concerned for his safety.
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hey hey that's poster just found out his gang-bangin' hero might have been bi, have some compassion
 
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Sanjuro

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Poltergust said:
^Why are you posting an NYPost article that uses the Daily Mail as a source?
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I thought others were running with it as well. Could be they are trying to latch on to his funeral today.

Still, a guy who robbed a Cumby's makes this story even more Massachusetts.
 
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