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[Lionel Richie]

This is such a sad story all around, not that I'll be mourning him or anything but I feel for his family and the families of the lives he took. And the whole thing feels awful, tragic story indeed.

 

[kaiju]

Took me by surprise. I thought he was acquitted. Was he still serving for other crimes or something?

Another murder.

 

[King Tubby]

I have no sympathy whatsoever for a multimillionaire professional athlete who decided to murder people in cold blood (unless such behavior came as a result of brain damage, which I doubt, but who knows).

Especially since it's looking like he might have killed himself as a way to prevent the families of his victims from successfully suing his estate.

 

[Rival]

When history looks back at Hernandez I'm certain he will place in the top ten stupidest people of all time.

 

[LionPride]

I have no sympathy whatsoever for a multimillionaire professional athlete who decided to murder people in cold blood (unless such behavior came as a result of brain damage, which I doubt, but who knows).

Especially since it's looking like he might have killed himself as a way to prevent the families of his victims from successfully suing his estate.

I repeat. Fuck Aaron Hernandez. Piece of shit murderer who happened to be good enough at a game.

Fuck him

 

[norm9]

Not sure if discussed already, but I wonder how much CTE had to do with this. Yeah, he was already a gangster, but brain injuries leads to even more dumb decision making.

Also, suicide doesn't seem like his MO.

 

[Swass]

I feel like there is foul play here.. Why would he be suicidal after a major victory only days before that could have lead to a successful appeal of the 3rd murder? Seems to me that someone didn't want the powers that be poking around in that 3rd murder. Something is off here.

 

[jmdajr]

I have no sympathy whatsoever for a multimillionaire professional athlete who decided to murder people in cold blood (unless such behavior came as a result of brain damage, which I doubt, but who knows).

Especially since it's looking like he might have killed himself as a way to prevent the families of his victims from successfully suing his estate.

Sure took advantage of MA law. He was probably never going to win that 3rd appeal anyway. This was the only real way to "win."

 

[Hippopuncher12]

Can't wait for the inevitable 30 for 30. The Aaron Hernandez Story: There are no Tight Ends in Prison.

j/k, but seriously I can't feel any sympathy for him whatsoever. I do feel for his family though, just an overall shit situation, and hope they can move on eventually.

 

[metalslimer]

I feel sympathy for the person he may have become had he not gotten involved in his youth and for his child who will grow up with that stain attached, but outside of that fuck this piece of shit.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Not sure if discussed already, but I wonder how much CTE had to do with this. Yeah, he was already a gangster, but brain injuries leads to even more dumb decision making.

Also, suicide doesn't seem like his MO.

CTE had very little to do with it. He was always like this even college. He just could never step away from it.

 

[Abinash117]

Oh won't somebody think of the convicted murderers!?

Yes, fuck him. More people in this thread are typing about giving him sympathy, but not his victims.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Man. This is crazy. Did not see that coming.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Yes, fuck him. More people in this thread are typing about giving him sympathy, but not his victims.

But that's in the past tho..😒

 

[LQX]

Wow!

 

[VincentMatts]

Actions have consequences. Unfortunately for him, he needed to kill people in order to realize it.

I feel bad for the people and families hes affected and his own family, but i dont have an ounce of grief for him.

 

[BadAss2961]

All this under the watchful eye of the la-li-lu-le-lo.

 

[Abinash117]

If he'd served a long sentence and showed remorse then we can talk restorative justice.

I believe even if they showed any remorse, they can be disingenuous.

 

[Keri]

Especially since it's looking like he might have killed himself as a way to prevent the families of his victims from successfully suing his estate.

Is this true? I've not heard of the death of an individual, preventing people from suing their estate. Is this some quirk of the state he was in? What is the justification for this loophole, if so?

 

[Perfect Blue]

I'm confused by this thread.

Some people feel bad for this guy? He murdered people in cold blood. He took the easy way out and the families of those he killed are going to continue to feel the real pain.

Not confused at all - Pats fans.

 

[King Tubby]

Is this true? I've not heard of the death of an individual, preventing people from suing their estate. Is this some quirk of the state he was in? What is the justification for this loophole, if so?

According to Deadspin:

Through an obscure and rarely invoked Massachusetts legal principle called abatement ab initio, because Hernandez had not exhausted all his appeals on his murder conviction, that conviction is essentially now voided. The practical effect of this is that evidence from Hernandez’s criminal trial cannot be used in any potential civil trials against his estate.

 

[Random Painted HIghway]

Is this true? I've not heard of the death of an individual, preventing people from suing their estate. Is this some quirk of the state he was in? What is the justification for this loophole, if so?

There is no final conviction to use in the civil trial as evidence and obviously there will be no deposition or testimony from Hernandez himself. Makes it a much tougher road to get a judgment at trial.

Death while under appeal reminds me of ken lay. Screw him as well.

 

[Abinash117]

But that's in the past tho..😒

His past actions that led him to be convicted and eventually committing suicide. Seems pretty relevant considering this is a discussion about him.

See nothing wrong with giving sympathy to his family since they are also victims of his actions as well, but differently to the people he killed and their families being devastated. Those people - the people he prematurely ended their life - needs far more sympathy than him.

 

[Billy_Pilgrim]

A complex tragedy.

Btw tragedy doesn't mean that it's sad that he died.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I feel like there is foul play here.. Why would he be suicidal after a major victory only days before that could have lead to a successful appeal of the 3rd murder? Seems to me that someone didn't want the powers that be poking around in that 3rd murder. Something is off here.

There is almost no way he was getting out from under the Lloyd murder. The two he walked on weren't even a factor in the first conviction. There is an orgy of evidence with the Lloyd case. I mean...it was a nice victory but you're still eating a life without parole. It's like if I injected you with three deadly poisons but only gave you two anidotes. You're dying either way.

 

[Kintaro]

I feel bad for his daughter and family. For what his actions put them through. I hope his daughter turns out to be the last, good thing he was a part of.

I feel nothing for Aaron Hernandez. A coward until the end. Could not even man up to serve his sentence for his own actions. If there is a hell, he is on his way.

 

[Random Painted HIghway]

According to Deadspin:

It isn't the evidence from trial that can't be used, it's the certified judgment of conviction that can't be used. Basically have to retry the whole case albeit with a lower burden of proof, can't short cut it by using the conviction.

 

[zon]

Too bad he didn't do this before he started murdering people.

 

[Frozenprince]

This is a weird fucking thread.

Triple murderer who ultimately will have his record cleared by legal technicality sure is worth mourning despite all those people he killed.

 

[Figboy79]

Wow. This is crazy. I didn't expect this outcome like, at all. Yet it's still not terribly surprising. I wonder how he got bedsheets in his cell, though. I thought they didn't give inmates bed sheets? Was he on suicide watch? Was he a risk of suicide?

 

[LowlySmokeGuy]

Great news. Now no one has to waste any more thoughts on that piece of shit.

 

[Frozenprince]

There's no tragedy here I can't repeat that enough. It's not tragic that despite the literal hundreds of opportunities to do better, he made a conscious choice to kill people cause he was "bout them streets".

It's not tragic when someone who's had more opportunities than they honestly deserve to do better, don't.

Where does his personal culpability begin and end to make this tragic for him?

 

[Stormhammer]

don't know why "loss of human life" is brought up like this loss is terrible and important. dude was scum by all accounts

 

[CHC]

There's no tragedy here I can't repeat that enough. It's not tragic that despite the literal hundreds of opportunities to do better, he made a conscious choice to kill people cause he was "bout them streets".

It's not tragic when someone who's had more opportunities than they honestly deserve to do better, don't.

Where does his personal culpability begin and end to make this tragic for him?

Yes we've heard you say this several times but the fact is that the entire situation is the literal definition of a "tragedy," in the classical sense.

Macbeth was also a giant asshole, but his story is the archetypal tragedy. When the actions of one selfish or ill-intentioned person cause the ruination of many lives (including that person's own), that is the very definition of a tragedy.

Like, when I'm saying this there is no moral value attached to any of it. It's just.... the actual meaning of the word.

 

[Tagyhag]

There's a lot of things that I could say that'd probably get me banned. So I'll just say, it's really sad to watch someone who had it all lose everything like that and leave a kid without a father.

 

[DJChuy]

I see girls on FB being sad about this because he was "hot."

Dude had it all. What an idiot and waste of skill.

 

[MisterR]

Triple murderer who ultimately will have his record cleared by legal technicality sure is worth mourning despite all those people he killed.

I haven't seen anybody mourning him. Some people just can't manage to understand that your can recognize that something is tragic, without that meaning you are mourning a killer.

 

[Tagyhag]

I feel like there is foul play here.. Why would he be suicidal after a major victory only days before that could have lead to a successful appeal of the 3rd murder? Seems to me that someone didn't want the powers that be poking around in that 3rd murder. Something is off here.

There was no way he was winning that 3rd appeal. The evidence was insane, he absolutely did it.

 

[Jawbreaker]

I see girls on FB being sad about this because he was "hot."

Dude had it all. What an idiot and waste of skill.

People find it easier to empathize with those they find attractive. Sad shit.

 

[Billy_Pilgrim]

There's no tragedy here I can't repeat that enough. It's not tragic that despite the literal hundreds of opportunities to do better, he made a conscious choice to kill people cause he was "bout them streets".

It's not tragic when someone who's had more opportunities than they honestly deserve to do better, don't.

Where does his personal culpability begin and end to make this tragic for him?

Next you'll be telling us Macbeth isn't a tragedy.

 

[Gorillaz]

I got a problem with people saying RIP

Fuck him. Dude was a sociopath who never showed remorse for his actions.

im on this side of it

Some people ain't really worth saving or worth getting help for

 

[LowlySmokeGuy]

Ok what he did to his victims is tragic, sure. I think we can all agree that his death itself is not tragic. It is cause for celebration.

 

[Whompa02]

But that's in the past tho..��

The point being?

I got a problem with people saying RIP

Fuck him. Dude was a sociopath who never showed remorse for his actions.

Exactly. A+

 

[PROh1bited]

What a coward.

RIP to the victims.

 

[Strike]

Oh well. He could've had everything, but he threw it all away. What a waste.

 

[PillarEN]

I see girls on FB being sad about this because he was "hot."

Dude had it all. What an idiot and waste of skill.

Yeah well some girls thought that about the Boston bomber as well. Though I wouldn't think much of it unless they are actually being serious with their sadness and were over 18. Young and stupid, you got time to work out the kinks. Old and stupid, probably gonna stay that way.

 

[Sanjuro]

Yeah well some girls thought that about the Boston bomber as well. Though I wouldn't think much of it unless they are actually being serious with their sadness and were over 18. Young and stupid, you got time to work out the kinks. Old and stupid, probably gonna stay that way.

It went beyond just some girls.

 

[Darth Pinche]

This was good news for me. Hopefully the families of his victims gain some peace knowing that he is dead.

 

[Kelsdesu]

My first thought is that I wonder if we're gonna find out that he had CTE.

This is the story I am interested in. Could be very telling.

 

[Savitar]

I hardly feel bad for him considering he killed someone.

For his victims families may they now feel justice has been served.