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[Pupperbabysassy]

CTE had very little to do with it. He was always like this even college. He just could never step away from it.

You can get CTE in college football.

 

[marrec]

You can get CTE in college football.

Fuck you can get CTE in High School and younger.

 

[ronco2000]

He knew he fucked up by killing the guy he thought would rat him out for the double murder that he recently been acquitted.

 

[DJChuy]

Yeah well some girls thought that about the Boston bomber as well. Though I wouldn't think much of it unless they are actually being serious with their sadness and were over 18. Young and stupid, you got time to work out the kinks. Old and stupid, probably gonna stay that way.

Yep over 18, mainly in their early-mid 20s. I'm concerned because one of them is my coworker and assistant manager in her department.

 

[Wag]

The acquittal last week was literally the first piece of good news this guy has gotten in almost four years. It was a massive win. It meant he now actually had a shot at getting out of jail.

He had life without parole.

 

[norm9]

You can get CTE in college football.

Fuck you can get CTE in High School and younger.

From all those interviews of ex-pros that talk about how they didn't understand how they would get into these uncontrollable rages and violent behavior, I'm assuming it did have an effect on him.

However, he was an asshole with already violent tendencies and the gangsta lifestyle, so the blame is still squarely on him.

If you plan on murdering someone, make sure you're the only one who knows and plans it. More eyes and ears means someone will talk.

 

[MIMIC]

His death shouldn't overshadow what he did, but I still find the whole situation kinda tragic.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Fuck this guy for all the horrible shit he did in college, the murders, and now the selfish act of committing suicide when he has a daughter.

You guys feeling sorry for him are plain crazy people.

This guy was rotten through and through.

 

[Megalosaro]

He had life without parole.

A big chunk of the prosecutions argument was that he killed Odin because Odin floyd found out aaron Hernandez murdered those other two.

If ah didn't kill those two, then it weakens that argument

 

[Jenov]

I hope his victim's families can find some solace from his death and are still able to sue for compensation from his estate. The man was a unrepentant monster.

 

[timetokill]

We must find out how Tim Tebow is feeling about this

 

[Poltergust]

A big chunk of the prosecutions argument was that he killed Odin because Odin floyd found out aaron Hernandez murdered those other two.

If ah didn't kill those two, then it weakens that argument

Or, alternatively, he killed Odin for what ultimately turned out to be nothing because the case against him for the other two murder victims was too weak.

I mean, hindsight is 20/20, but it makes what happened all the more senseless. If the guy had any remorse in him, he probably realized a few days ago at his acquittal that what he did to his friend was pointless. In that sense, I can see why people are calling this a tragedy (although I do not feel the least bit sympathetic to him).

 

[2Smashed4U]

Plenty of football players suffered multiple documented concussions without going on a killing spree. Aaron Hernandez meanwhile killed someone for spilling a drink on him.

No sympathy. And I find it hard to call an idiot throwing choosing to throw away everything he had a tragedy either. Aaron Hernandez did it to himself.

 

[2Smashed4U]

I hope his victim's families can find some solace from his death and are still able to sue for compensation from his estate. The man was a unrepentant monster.

They are likely not going to be able to sue, as one of the things that happened as a result of this is that because he had appeals for the murder charge when he died, the conviction is dropped, and the evidence is vacated and also can't be used in a civil case against his estate.

 

[TrojanAg]

I feel sorry for all of the lives he destroyed, not for him.

 

[smokeymicpot]

You can get CTE in college football.

He got in trouble in 2007 as well. He was probably never in the right state of mind.

 

[The Salt Life]

Apparently he wrote "John 3:16" on his face
According to some channel 4 news lady on Twitter.

(just heard that on weei, don't know how to spell the ladies name, if it pops up on Google I'll paste it here)

 

[Kadin]

I might not understand this reference to 'abatement' here by CNN and other places but they say they following:

Aaron Hernandez's murder conviction is expected to be dismissed posthumously because of a legal rule called "abatement."

That would mean, legally speaking, Aaron Hernandez died an innocent man.

Isn't this process of abatement due to the fact that the appeal will never happen because he's now dead, or would this have happened regardless? CNN makes it out that he died potentially innocent but I'm not reading it that way.

"The idea is that if an appeal hasn't happened, there's a chance that a conviction has an error in it," she told CNN. "Rather than have someone with that incomplete decision that they're guilty, the state chooses instead to say that conviction is abated -- as if it never had happened."
The conviction's dismissal is "pro forma," or automatic, she said.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

A big chunk of the prosecutions argument was that he killed Odin because Odin floyd found out aaron Hernandez murdered those other two.

If ah didn't kill those two, then it weakens that argument

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/04/14/legal-expert-aaron-hernandez-acquittal-odin-lloyd-case-murder/

Legal Expert: Acquittal Will Not Affect Hernandez's Appeal In Odin Lloyd Case

He was never getting out of prison ever.

The "argument" the prosecution presented in court centered largely on the rented car with the shell casing and AH's chewed gum under the seat next to it. They didnt need a "solid motive" in a case like this. Motives are tv fantasy for the most part.

Isn't this process of abatement due to the fact that the appeal will never happen because he's now dead, or would this have happened regardless? CNN makes it out that he died potentially innocent but I'm not reading it that way.

100% the former

 

[Peltz]

They are likely not going to be able to sue, as one of the things that happened as a result of this is that because he had appeals for the murder charge when he died, the conviction is dropped, and the evidence is vacated and also can't be used in a civil case against his estate.

That bolded part is insane. Why not?

 

[msdstc]

I might not understand this reference to 'abatement' here by CNN and other places but they say they following:



Isn't this process of abatement due to the fact that the appeal will never happen because he's now dead, or would this have happened regardless? CNN makes it out that he died potentially innocent but I'm not reading it that way.

It's a technicality, but basically his conviction status was technically paused for review under the appeal. Given that he has died the case will be dropped and therefore his conviction not confirmed.

 

[Kadin]

It's a technicality, but basically his conviction status was technically paused for review under the appeal. Given that he has died the case will be dropped and therefore his conviction not confirmed.

Yeah I reread it and they say 'legally speaking' which I guess is like you're saying, it's a technicality. Makes sense but their wording still made it seem to me as thought he died an innocent man (deceased or not).

 

[Sanjuro]

Apparently he wrote "John 3:16" on his face
According to some channel 4 news lady on Twitter.

(just heard that on weei, don't know how to spell the ladies name, if it pops up on Google I'll paste it here)

He had it written in red marker. They also believe they smoke synthetic marijuana.

 

[FyreWulff]

That bolded part is insane. Why not?

You can't submit something in court that legally doesn't exist.

It's sort of like how a judge can rule testimony as stricken.. even if the jury heard it, it legally no longer exists and cannot be considered as part of deliberations.

 

[Random Painted HIghway]

A big chunk of the prosecutions argument was that he killed Odin because Odin floyd found out aaron Hernandez murdered those other two.

If ah didn't kill those two, then it weakens that argument

This isn't how appeals work. The results of this trial have zero evidentiary value on the previous trial. The only way this trial could effect the conviction on Lloyd is if one of the witnesses committed perjury (by virtue of testifying differently in both trials) and it materially prejudiced hernandez. Further, he wasn't found innocent he was found not guilty.

 

[T-Rex.]

From all those interviews of ex-pros that talk about how they didn't understand how they would get into these uncontrollable rages and violent behavior, I'm assuming it did have an effect on him.

However, he was an asshole with already violent tendencies and the gangsta lifestyle, so the blame is still squarely on him.

If you plan on murdering someone, make sure you're the only one who knows and plans it. More eyes and ears means someone will talk.

what

 

[Zyae]

A big chunk of the prosecutions argument was that he killed Odin because Odin floyd found out aaron Hernandez murdered those other two.

If ah didn't kill those two, then it weakens that argument

what, thats not how these things work lol.

 

[Peltz]

You can't submit something in court that legally doesn't exist.

It's sort of like how a judge can rule testimony as stricken.. even if the jury heard it, it legally no longer exists and cannot be considered as part of deliberations.

In a separate proceeding?

How does vacated evidence in one proceeding affect a completely different case?

 

[Anticol]

Good, the guy was scum.

 

[numble]

A big chunk of the prosecutions argument was that he killed Odin because Odin floyd found out aaron Hernandez murdered those other two.

If ah didn't kill those two, then it weakens that argument

The judge did not permit the prosecution to mention the murders at all.

 

[Goose_Se7en]

CBS/WBS/IWBTG

Rest in Peace brotha and rest easy.

 

[turtle553]

I saw that in MA, if you die while your case is in appeal it gets thrown out. Technically he died an innocent man. I wonder if there is anything to this like insurance money his family gets or something else.

 

[Dishwalla]

Waste of good talent, only thing to be sorry for in his whole situation.

 

[jbug617]

More info

Source: #AaronHernandez found w/"John 3:16" written in blood on his forehead, open Bible in his cell. More #Fox25 4:30P

https://twitter.com/bward3/status/854793035162542080
Not confirmed

Heard this as well, and stigmata-like marks. But haven't confirmed

https://twitter.com/gregabedard/status/854794449125330944

 

[BackLogJoe]

So I read that since he had appealed his case, and he died before it was resolved, he isn't a felon now. Can his family go after his money from the Pats now?

 

[entremet]

So I read that since he had appealed his case, and he died before it was resolved, he isn't a felon now. Can his family go after his money from the Pats now?

He was still in jail for his first charge, which carried a life sentence without parole. You're talking about another case and separate charges.

 

[BobTheFork]

A big chunk of the prosecutions argument was that he killed Odin because Odin floyd found out aaron Hernandez murdered those other two.

If ah didn't kill those two, then it weakens that argument

That doesn't erase any of the evidences they used to convict him not based purely on motive.

Maybe he though it might get him out of the previous convictions, found out otherwise and decided he had enough.

I'm not convinced the second trail was going to do anything to overturn the previous conviction or even get him a re-trail. Sounds like Aaron didn't think so either.

 

[ScientificPizza]

This might be too dark, but I wonder if he was advised by a member of his council to kill himself for the benefit of his family

 

[FStubbs]

It's a technicality, but basically his conviction status was technically paused for review under the appeal. Given that he has died the case will be dropped and therefore his conviction not confirmed.

Part of me thinks he actually calculated this to keep his victim's families from getting any of the money left in his estate, so his daughter would inherit it.

EDIT: beaten

 

[2Smashed4U]

He was still in jail for his first charge, which carried a life sentence without parole. You're talking about another case and separate charges.

Yeah but that's the whole thing, he was appealing it at the time of his death, and because of that MA law, the fact that he died during the appeal sort of voids the conviction.

I still don't think they would have a good case to go after the Pats nor do I think they would try it, but that is a weird law.

 

[jbug617]

Hernandez might of smoked K2 before killing himself

Law enforcement sources tell WBZ investigators are looking into the possibility that the former New England Patriot may have smoked synthetic marijuana called K2 Tuesday night

.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/04/19/aaron-hernandez-john-316-prison-cell-death-investigation/

 

[Mr. Blonde]

1)there doesnt need to be a conviction for the pats to cut him for "conduct detrimental to the team"

2)there doesnt need to be a conviction to win a civil suit against him(see simpson, oj)

 

[OG Shaka Zulu]

How the eff is synthetic weed still legal? There are a lot of stories of bad trips and seizures, yet I can walk 3 minutes and get some at the store.

 

[Zombine]

The tragedy here is that Hernandez was a man who had unlimited potential, money, and a family, but chose to throw it all away for a life of violence and machismo. The crimes he committed affected his own family, his little girl, and the lives of his victims families. Nobody wins here, and his death isn't a cause for celebration. If anything "good" comes from this, it's to show young people that literally nothing positive comes from that lifestyle, and to focus on the gifts that you were blessed with and use those gifts to help others.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

How the eff is synthetic weed still legal? There are a lot of stories of bad trips and seizures, yet I can walk 3 minutes and get some at the store.

Most synthetic weeds aren't legal, most are schedule I federal

 

[Sanjuro]

1)there doesnt need to be a conviction for the pats to cut him for "conduct detrimental to the team"

2)there doesnt need to be a conviction to win a civil suit against him(see simpson, oj)

No, but it would make those two things easier.

Patriots are withholding partial payments from him. Has nothing to do with him being cut, as those years were not guaranteed.

 

[Wereroku]

1)there doesnt need to be a conviction for the pats to cut him for "conduct detrimental to the team"

2)there doesnt need to be a conviction to win a civil suit against him(see simpson, oj)

But it sounds like they can't use the evidence from the other case either which would make it incredibly difficult to try even in civil court.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

So by taking his own life he reverts to being innocent. I wonder if he knew this.

 

[King Tubby]

A big chunk of the prosecutions argument was that he killed Odin because Odin floyd found out aaron Hernandez murdered those other two.

If ah didn't kill those two, then it weakens that argument

This isn't true at all. Also, you don't actually have to determine "motive" to get a conviction. There was a shitload of evidence tying Hernandez to the murder.

 

[jacobeid]

He knew he fucked up by killing the guy he thought would rat him out for the double murder that he recently been acquitted.

He was already in for life without parole though....

Yeah but that's the whole thing, he was appealing it at the time of his death, and because of that MA law, the fact that he died during the appeal sort of voids the conviction.

I still don't think they would have a good case to go after the Pats nor do I think they would try it, but that is a weird law.

Even if we think he's smart enough to play the legal system, he still had to kill himself to do it.