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Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over ‘Frat Boy’ Culture
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Thabass
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This isn't censorship. It's their product. They can remove/add whatever they want, it's their own game.
It does feel forced, though, and ultimately really doesn't do much for what they're trying to do. There needs to be a cultural shift, this really doesn't do much other than make some of the devs feel better.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
100% agree. It's a nice gesture, but that's all it is. They will need to do a lot more than that to get the players and their staff back on their side. And that's if they even can get them all back on their side. At this point I'm not so sure.
WoW in particular seems damaged beyond repair. Between the 9.1 debacle, the overall terrible quality of the game in recent years, and now this? I don't know if they can recover what they had without major creative changes both to the game and the staff.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Yes, they should. Because changing the references is just a typical empty, destructive gesture that helps noone.
It is a fucking pantomime.
I hate this mentality.
Hawking Radiation
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Self censorship is still censorship, especially when its done for political and PR reasons.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
That is ridiculous. This a game that is played by young kids. You don't need references to people like that in the game.
Empty gesture or not. They don't need to be there.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
There is no "not". It is an empty gesture. No argument to be made other than the performative.
References to people who's names don't mean shit to anyone outside of a tiny minority committed enough to look into this case. "Think of the children"... Yeah, riiiiiiiiiight!
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
What a ridiculous take lol
It's only "performative" so it's better to just leave it in anyway regardless of the optics. You would be terrible at running a large company lol
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Bragr
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Most employees had nothing to do with this. I don't see an issue with respecting the people who made it in the game, it's a tiny tribute.
ManaByte
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Not everyone at Blizzard gets a NPC named after them. It's a prestige thing there.
Bragr
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This happens in every culture, black businesses hire black people over others, and muslim businesses hire muslims over others.
And right now, there are several huge industries where being non-white is a massive advantage in getting a job as people are trying to be more diverse.
Besides, absolutely nothing of this is any sort of general rule, the vast amount of people have to get a job the normal way without any leg up.
Bragr
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What's the problem though, does anyone here know why certain people got their name in the game over others?
ManaByte
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99% of the time it's a dev given a NPC.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
EviLore
is right. I think this is an unfortunate combination of horrible allegations alongside a famous and beloved company. So it is leading a lot of people from either side of the issue (myself included) getting more emotionally invested into the problem rather than intelligently invested. The politics of the situation is also not helping anything either obviously. Some will automatically react badly when certain subjects come up. Let everyone breathe and then come back once more information is available.
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yurinka
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At least here in Europe most people working on games is white because most people here is white.
And to work as game programmer, designer or similar requires years in University or masters that are very expensive. On top of that it also requires a lot of hours during years at home learning by yourself, testing and practicing stuff and so on at home. Specially years ago before internet and game engines staring to be cheaper or even free. Which means that to start a gaming career your family needed to have money and you need to have time, which isn't the case of a lot of non-white people living here (so they can't afford time and money required to prepare properly and need to start working before and in something whose preparation is cheaper, and same happens white people who is poor).
So not a racist thing, but more a capitalism indirectly blocking 'poor' people to enter in the main gamedev careers thing.
Regarding women, more or less the same: in this case on average they don't work at or even study tech related careers this time because on average women have other career preferences. So less women get hired. And on average, when they are around 30 years old or so quit working to rise their child, so they last on gamedev less time on average. And on average they are less likely to accept a job in a distant city and move there to get a better salary than men. So they reach less top positions on average than men and on average have a lower salary (this ignoring that since males last there for longer they also receive higher seniority bonus on average).
But yes, feminist and woke who didn't properly research about it blame the patriarchy, misoginy and so on because someone on Twitter told so, while companies try to lose their shit to hire, promote and keep women, LGTB people and non-white people to achieve certain diversity quotas.
I'd bet it's the same in USA.
P.S.: This is a super complex and deep topic with lots of layers, exceptions and additional stuff. I only did a quick, maybe too dumb recap of many years properly researching these topics.
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jigglet
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Exactly. #metoo sought to undermine the very pillars of our legal process.
Let's not do the same.
Bragr
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Yes of course, but what's the problem with that, what's the problem with giving an employee a tribute in the game? why do they have to address this?
Bragr
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Well, that is an extremely complex and deep question, but of course, if you immigrate to another country, it's gonna take more time and effort, as it should. But getting jobs in tech and other good jobs is perfectly available to everyone in this day and age. I also live in Europe, and here the school system is free, and absolutely everyone has access to resources and help in some form.
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ManaByte
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Because some of the people named in the lawsuit have prominent NPCs named after them in game and the mob is mass-unsubscribing from the game in protest of that. It's literally costing Blizzard money keeping them in the game.
Bragr
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Ah, so it's ignorant hysteria, well, that makes this easier to understand.
Bragr
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Yeah, there are things about it that are hard to decipher.
Let everyone breathe and then come back once more information is available.
That cube crawl thing, for example, was that some drunk idiot who tried it once or twice or something that happened on a regular basis with multiple people? a big part of the document is women saying they got paid less, but there is no way to figure out if that is true unless we hear both parties explain their reasoning. I can tell you I get paid less than another and show you my weekly hours worked, but unless you understand the position of both parties and what they do, it's impossible to determine the validity of that, we need the management to talk about this to understand it. And we have NO context of the women to did the suicide, how the hell does anyone have any idea if the nude pictures and Blizzard had anything to do with what she did? and the people who joked about rape, what exactly did they say?
There is clearly something messed up that has gone down at Blizzard, especially some of the management seems to have fucked up and plenty of people have been treated like shit. But very little of that document is specific, we need to know what actually happened to know how bad it was. It's like if I say "I experienced harassment at NeoGaf every day!", well, to have any opinion on that, you would have to know what sort of harassment and to what extent, what exactly people said, and how much they said it.
yurinka
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Yep, it's super complex and deep, and there are many different cases and exception.
In my case, I'm from Spain and come from a 'poor' company. I've been working as gamedev for 15+ years, worked in couple of top gaming companies in several hits and now I'm starting my indie team, and I've been teacher/gave masterclasses in most of the top Universities here.
Here people now also can study gamedev career even in the university degree for free in the public (here's pretty good compared to other countries) education. Since gamedev is pretty new and public universities require a lot of time due to burocracy to update what they teach, the best gamedev universities are private and expensive. Same goes with masters, they are only private and expensive.
A couple of decades ago when I did study the only gamedev related stuff there was here was a single gamedev master in a single private university, I couldn't afford it. And the university degree I did choose was general programming, but the best one was private and I couldn't afford it, so I went to a public one that turned out to be pretty bad (other ones are good). Nowadays there's a ton of free, quality gamedev schools, university degrees and masters here.
I have been a game dev on engineering for a long time as a non-white woman. I am fortunate to not experience a lot of stories I have heard. I don't doubt these things happen as they do across all industries because there are bad apples unfortunately.
I am sad to see some people are guilty automatically by association. People tend to trust they know over those they don't. Those in position of power also delegate tasks to others trusting it will be done. That said blizz public statement of denial is just bad and worse than statements from other studios that have been rocked by accusations too.
As for merit and such. Diversity hiring is a double edge sword. When someone is biased and their mind is made up, one mistake will overshadow the ten wonderful work that came before it and any effort and work that come after it. I have been undervalued before and I know what it was like that no amount of proof will convince upper management of my value regardless of what my peers and immediate managers think of me. I have also been in leadership knowing my words if not carefully chosen can alter someone's role and reputation in the company especially to upper management that do not work directly with those under my supervision. I can see how a biased manager can destroy someone's career without much thought. Also being a diversity hire makes it easier for someone who is biased to write off the hire no matter how talented the hire maybe.
As an aside, cube crawls sounded like a social event at work during work hours with alcohol where people get to know co-workers from what I have read. Unfortunately some people just behave badly once they have too much to drink. Being part of cube crawls does not mean consent to being harassed by what some posts seem to imply.
As for discrimination and cultural fit, that's always hard to say. Sometimes it is more felt reality that could be improved on but not necessarily something insidious to make someone miserable. After becoming a mom, it was hard to participate in social events after work making it harder for me to get to know new co-workers or fit into a new company. My priorities have shifted to accommodate both my family and work but preference is given to my family as a mom. In interviews, I get a sense that's a negative mark. It would come no surprise to me if I was ever told behind the scene I am "not passionate" about making games because my family come first. I care about quality of my work and will work around my kids schedule too but many companies are reluctant to offer such flexibility to someone they don't know. It is what it is imo since trust is required to offer such flexibility. Not something I fault companies for really.
I am sad to see some people are guilty automatically by association. People tend to trust they know over those they don't. Those in position of power also delegate tasks to others trusting it will be done. That said blizz public statement of denial is just bad and worse than statements from other studios that have been rocked by accusations too.
As for merit and such. Diversity hiring is a double edge sword. When someone is biased and their mind is made up, one mistake will overshadow the ten wonderful work that came before it and any effort and work that come after it. I have been undervalued before and I know what it was like that no amount of proof will convince upper management of my value regardless of what my peers and immediate managers think of me. I have also been in leadership knowing my words if not carefully chosen can alter someone's role and reputation in the company especially to upper management that do not work directly with those under my supervision. I can see how a biased manager can destroy someone's career without much thought. Also being a diversity hire makes it easier for someone who is biased to write off the hire no matter how talented the hire maybe.
As an aside, cube crawls sounded like a social event at work during work hours with alcohol where people get to know co-workers from what I have read. Unfortunately some people just behave badly once they have too much to drink. Being part of cube crawls does not mean consent to being harassed by what some posts seem to imply.
As for discrimination and cultural fit, that's always hard to say. Sometimes it is more felt reality that could be improved on but not necessarily something insidious to make someone miserable. After becoming a mom, it was hard to participate in social events after work making it harder for me to get to know new co-workers or fit into a new company. My priorities have shifted to accommodate both my family and work but preference is given to my family as a mom. In interviews, I get a sense that's a negative mark. It would come no surprise to me if I was ever told behind the scene I am "not passionate" about making games because my family come first. I care about quality of my work and will work around my kids schedule too but many companies are reluctant to offer such flexibility to someone they don't know. It is what it is imo since trust is required to offer such flexibility. Not something I fault companies for really.
nush
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"On July 21, 2017, he announced that his position as the Sr. Audio Director/Composer at Blizzard Entertainment was eliminated."
Russell Brower - Wikipedia
Not bitter at all at being laid off, virtue signalling from a safe distance.
Thesuffering79
Banned
Well if the court case isnt about that then it is probably something else. But anyway carry on.
The bolded is only true if you believe white people are automatically superior.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
It's also true if you believe people are equal.
CGiRanger
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Amongold calling out the WoW team statement on removing the offending statue as "pure virtue signaling"
My guess would be most people upset at WoW probably would feel insulted actually that they're spending resources and time "fixing" this as opposed to all the critical issues the userbase has been calling out for a long time.
My guess would be most people upset at WoW probably would feel insulted actually that they're spending resources and time "fixing" this as opposed to all the critical issues the userbase has been calling out for a long time.
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Kusanagi2086
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No it's not censorship in any way no content is being removed from the game at all, except the names of certain employees who engaged in horrific behaviour at the company which lead to a sucide of one of their employees.
If you get fired and have your name removed from a company because you engaged in illegal or behaviour that goes agains company rules that is not censorship get a grip buddy.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Is it possible that EA Activision is a just a woke epicenter?
It happened at Evergreen, it happened at the School of Juliard, Smith College, hell it happened here. Gather enough far left ideological loonies and sooner or later the implosion happens.
That David Jaffe - Jeff Ross interview was interesting how he said the young people at Sony Bend complained a lot and thought they should be in charge. The woke want power.
It'll be interesting to see the defense build its case here.
It happened at Evergreen, it happened at the School of Juliard, Smith College, hell it happened here. Gather enough far left ideological loonies and sooner or later the implosion happens.
That David Jaffe - Jeff Ross interview was interesting how he said the young people at Sony Bend complained a lot and thought they should be in charge. The woke want power.
It'll be interesting to see the defense build its case here.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Forget the semantics for a second. Asmongold lays out pretty much exactly the sentiment behind my sarcastic reaction to this.
Its just a virtue signalling exercise that doesn't fix anything. That's my problem with it. Its fake.
Anyway, as Lore wisely suggested. Lets let the legal process play out before commenting further.
As you said this a broad and complicated topic. I always find this idea that women have different career preferences than men and are more family oriented to be interesting. I'm not sure that is the case and more an issue of outdated gender roles and laws. As an example, maternal and paternal leave are not equal which automatically assigns the woman in the relationship to the role of carer while the male has to work.
I don't see why women should be judged in an interview on the possibility that they might have kids in the future while a male shouldn't. But I guess it's a long process for change
Bragr
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How so?
FunkMiller
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Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to watch Activision, Ubisoft and EA fucking burn (for various reasons). Sadly, I'm not sure even reprehensible shit like this will do it, because people will continue to buy their shovelled out, half-arsed content no matter how bad they get. In an ideal world, large companies wouldn't be able to get away with these kinds of work practises because their consumer base would turn against them, but I don't think that's likely to happen.
Some men might want to watch the world burn, but plenty more of the cunts just want to spend their money on more microtransactions and annual updates.
Some men might want to watch the world burn, but plenty more of the cunts just want to spend their money on more microtransactions and annual updates.
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Men_in_Boxes
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Colin Moriarty talks with (his?) lawyer about the lawsuit...
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strange headache
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People in this thread already wanting to take out the pitchforks and burn it all down, when the lawsuit hasn't even concluded yet. The major issue is that the plaintiff is explicitly conflating several issues in order to emphasize their accusations. In no way is the sexual harassment excusable and these issues should rightfully be taken to court.
I know the noble people in here want justice for the victims. That is a laudable stance, but that is also exactly what the lawsuit is banking on in order to deflect from the real goal. As such, rightful restitution for the victims seems to be a lesser important part of the lawsuit. Sexual harassment has also nothing to do with "white" leadership and "diversity quotas".
The introduction is way too ideologically colored.
As such it looks like the Department of Fair Employment and Housing is weaponizing specific sexual harassment issues in order to publicly damage Blizzard's reputation and to make them pliable to their demands. The public is rightfully shocked by the story about the female coworker committing suicide after her nudes were shared among the company, but is completely ignoring the larger power-plays enacted here.
The lax office rules, the cube crawls, the drinks and video games are merely a side spectacle in order to divert attention from the obvious power grab that's at stake here. The old leadership needs to go, even the innocent ones, despite maybe their best efforts to remedy the situation. Blizzard has 9.500 employees, there's bound to be some real as*holes among them, male and female, this does not automatically imply that a lack of diversity, women quotas or white leadership are the root issue here.
Do you really think J. Allen Brack is a serial harasser? I don't think so, dude has aged 50 years since he took over that company. I don't think this lawsuit would have been possible without help from the inside, so the question lingers as to who might gain from a change in leadership positions. After all, public scandals are oftentimes the best way to get rid of competition.
After all, who would dare question the noble intents of such a lawsuit? Every criticism of the less obvious dynamics at play, will be easily deflected by the juicy anecdotes enumerated in the complaint. Every critical inspection of the lawsuit will be equated with tacitly supporting sexual harassment and workplace mobbing.
The demands by the striking employees have very little to do with the lawsuit itself:
I still find it hard to believe that "fratboy culture" is what brought this company down. Ruthless workplace competition and power-plays disguised as diversity quotas are what's pitting employees against each other. It's striking that all these demands are clearly not in the current employees best interest or will do much to combat workplace harassment. Clearly what's being aimed at is the companies hierarchy and with it, its profits.
So what's truly at stake here is a shift in power dynamics. Question is, who will benefit from this?
I know the noble people in here want justice for the victims. That is a laudable stance, but that is also exactly what the lawsuit is banking on in order to deflect from the real goal. As such, rightful restitution for the victims seems to be a lesser important part of the lawsuit. Sexual harassment has also nothing to do with "white" leadership and "diversity quotas".
The introduction is way too ideologically colored.
As such it looks like the Department of Fair Employment and Housing is weaponizing specific sexual harassment issues in order to publicly damage Blizzard's reputation and to make them pliable to their demands. The public is rightfully shocked by the story about the female coworker committing suicide after her nudes were shared among the company, but is completely ignoring the larger power-plays enacted here.
The lax office rules, the cube crawls, the drinks and video games are merely a side spectacle in order to divert attention from the obvious power grab that's at stake here. The old leadership needs to go, even the innocent ones, despite maybe their best efforts to remedy the situation. Blizzard has 9.500 employees, there's bound to be some real as*holes among them, male and female, this does not automatically imply that a lack of diversity, women quotas or white leadership are the root issue here.
Do you really think J. Allen Brack is a serial harasser? I don't think so, dude has aged 50 years since he took over that company. I don't think this lawsuit would have been possible without help from the inside, so the question lingers as to who might gain from a change in leadership positions. After all, public scandals are oftentimes the best way to get rid of competition.
After all, who would dare question the noble intents of such a lawsuit? Every criticism of the less obvious dynamics at play, will be easily deflected by the juicy anecdotes enumerated in the complaint. Every critical inspection of the lawsuit will be equated with tacitly supporting sexual harassment and workplace mobbing.
The demands by the striking employees have very little to do with the lawsuit itself:
I still find it hard to believe that "fratboy culture" is what brought this company down. Ruthless workplace competition and power-plays disguised as diversity quotas are what's pitting employees against each other. It's striking that all these demands are clearly not in the current employees best interest or will do much to combat workplace harassment. Clearly what's being aimed at is the companies hierarchy and with it, its profits.
So what's truly at stake here is a shift in power dynamics. Question is, who will benefit from this?
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Evil Calvin
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Activision hasn't been good since 'River Raid'
Kenpachii
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People in this thread already wanting to take out the pitchforks and burn it all down, when the lawsuit hasn't even concluded yet. The major issue is that the plaintiff is explicitly conflating several issues in order to emphasize their accusations. In no way is the sexual harassment excusable and these issues should rightfully be taken to court.
I know the noble people in here want justice for the victims. That is a laudable stance, but that is also exactly what the lawsuit is banking on in order to deflect from the real goal. As such, rightful restitution for the victims seems to be a lesser important part of the lawsuit. Sexual harassment has also nothing to do with "white" leadership and "diversity quotas".
The introduction is way too ideologically colored.
As such it looks like the Department of Fair Employment and Housing is weaponizing specific sexual harassment issues in order to publicly damage Blizzard's reputation and to make them pliable to their demands. The public is rightfully shocked by the story about the female coworker committing suicide after her nudes were shared among the company, but is completely ignoring the larger power-plays enacted here.
The lax office rules, the cube crawls, the drinks and video games are merely a side spectacle in order to divert attention from the obvious power grab that's at stake here. The old leadership needs to go, even the innocent ones, despite maybe their best efforts to remedy the situation. Blizzard has 9.500 employees, there's bound to be some real as*holes among them, male and female, this does not automatically imply that a lack of diversity, women quotas or white leadership are the root issue here.
Do you really think J. Allen Brack is a serial harasser? I don't think so, dude has aged 50 years since he took over that company. I don't think this lawsuit would have been possible without help from the inside, so the question lingers as to who might gain from a change in leadership positions. After all, public scandals are oftentimes the best way to get rid of competition.
After all, who would dare question the noble intents of such a lawsuit? Every criticism of the less obvious dynamics at play, will be easily deflected by the juicy anecdotes enumerated in the complaint. Every critical inspection of the lawsuit will be equated with tacitly supporting sexual harassment and workplace mobbing.
The demands by the striking employees have very little to do with the lawsuit itself:
I still find it hard to believe that "fratboy culture" is what brought this company down. Ruthless workplace competition and power-plays disguised as diversity quotas are what's pitting employees against each other. It's striking that all these demands are clearly not in the current employees best interest or will do much to combat workplace harassment. Clearly what's being aimed at is the companies hierarchy and with it, its profits.
So what's truly at stake here is a shift in power dynamics. Question is, who will benefit from this?
California will not sue them if they don't think there is something wrong in that company. They will fall on there face flat or it will not ever get green lit. I can't see this happening.
The fact that a ton of people even on the internet are outraged by the girl and her suicide while her naked pictures where pushed around is something most people including myself will never support. I am for equality between woman and men, and frankly i have no clue what sexuality has to do with anything other then being a buzzword for US politics.
Frat boy culture does exist and will exist the moment u put large swamps of men together with a minority of woman. the same as it will happen when woman largely outnumber men. It's only the nature of the beast specially when the majority of people that worked at bliz or work are probably all younger people in general.
This is why its important when u are layback as a company to attract talent to keep a clear goal and a clear line of work and non work split. If not u will be burned and that's exactly what happens here.
Whenever a picture of your co worker gets thrown around, and nobody reports this and that person that works there is getting absolutely nightmare fuel of harassment over her. U got some real big issue's on your hands.
What california see's as men men men men is only there to empower there main complain fratboy culture, but also other complains are made which can easily be disproven by blizzard if they have the paper works but they will have to show it.
About the management at blizzard. i don't think anybody that played there games in the 90's and upwards gives 2 flying fucks about there current management. There whole management is rotten, its already for a decade. It's openly talked about and every single time they are hiding behind there shields pretending its not a thing.
Remember the guy with "don't u have a phone": ? fired. why? because he was hired to provide the message for his bosses, and then when backslash happens he got shit on relentlessly used as public shame pole and ditched by the company with a statement they try to do better. while the real problem makers hide behind there shield called blizzard.
U see the same shit again in there statement.
Guys guys guys
we removed a npc, and will work with you to improve from now on
Its not us guys, its everybody else.
Pulls the blizzard shield up again.
Guess what everybody is done with there shit, and so its California. They will now get ripped out of there building and have to explain everything in detail and face public slander which will cripple there income and it will put a fire under there ass.
For me personally the entire management team and everybody at the top can suck a nut and get axed and replaced.
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Hell a good example in this thread, we have multiple people that think sending naked pictures is perfectly fine and acceptable and share it. Because it doesn't bother them. U have those people on every level. Some people think its funny to shit on woman 24/7 in there workplace with jokes about them because there dad does the same thing with there mom or his friends and he does the same thing with his degenerate friends. So they think its normal. Until u find somebody that doesn't take your shit and starts to shoot back and boom hell opens up for you.
U see the same with bullying, oh lets make a funny joke about that guy infront of me because he looks weird, the guy turns around and slams your nose into your throat and u blackout. Guess what u do next time when u see a "funny guy stand in front of you" yea nothing.
Hell i see the same shit happen even to my 70+ year old dad, when i went out with him a year ago to eat, he sits at a table and start to talk about a bunch of whale looking girls that sit behind me enjoying there evening. Guess what? its a club of 15 girls that where Olympic medalist winners and its there reunion. He got shit on relentlessly by all of them, and eventually after 10 minutes of pure screeching torture we got kicked out. He suddenly didn't found it so funny anymore when the place stated he was no longer welcome there.
Or when i sit with him in some Turkish restaurant and he shits on turkish people because he see's them as 3rd rank citizen with my sister sitting next towards me and started to get nervious because she was not sure if people behind her would assault us. Everybody starts to look at him with hawk eyes because they where offended as shit. My dad laughing at his own shit ass jokes, and he said at some point why are you not laughing. I basically stated right there with a louder voice, because your jokes don't work in the year 2021 mate, the time moved on and nobody here thinks its funny. If you keep it up u will eventually understand how "not" funny your jokes are when one of these guys stand up and smashes your teeth out of your skull as result.
He looked at me shocked, i paid the bill and left with my sister. and he left sooner after.
This is why u have policy's, u don't know what kind of deplorable people u get under your hood and this is why simple "jokes" can be not so "funny" for certain people. U don't joke about stuff that can offend people. As everybody has a different past and everybody sits there just to make money for there family's and don't wanna deal with your shit.
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FunkMiller
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’tomorrow’.
Wow. What a show of solidarity! You’re going to stop playing your wizard cartoon game for a whole twenty four hours??
Dr. Claus
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Self Censorship is Censorship. Its fucking stupid and a lazy attempt at virtue signaling instead of doing anything of actual merit.
Leave them in the game as a monument to your fuck ups and work towards ensuring it never happens again. All this does is a thinly veiled attempt at hiding the problem.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
We now live in a world where the most appropriate response from Blizzard came from Bobby Kotick.
This timeline has some twists and turns.
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Hari Seldon
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Not really, by all accounts Bobby Kotick is a highly intelligent dude who has been hustling for a long time. This type of crisis is exactly why you want an experienced CEO at the helm and why they get paid the big bucks.
The one thing that this shitshow should tell everyone is that blaming Activision/Bobby Kotick for Blizzard's failures is missing the plot. Blizzard has a unique shitshow of a culture that was around long before Activision came into the picture. I cannot blame Activision for forcing Blizzard to release shit like WC3R when they roll in and see drunkeness and unprofessional behavior and don't want to throw more money after bad.
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