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Actual Good Cop doesn't shoot a man. Gets Fired and Denied Pension
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Gordon Shumway
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Well. What s shit story. Thanks, ex..i think..
psynergylover
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going above and beyond the line of duty.....only to get fired.
foxdvd
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I agree this is bullshit, but one thing puzzles me...
How long was he employed? I am confused about the pension...it says he was a probationary employee...that makes me think he just got hired on...why would he qualify for a pension? Does it not take years to build and qualify for a pension? If he is a new employee, why even bring up something that might take 10 to 20 years to qualify for?
How long was he employed? I am confused about the pension...it says he was a probationary employee...that makes me think he just got hired on...why would he qualify for a pension? Does it not take years to build and qualify for a pension? If he is a new employee, why even bring up something that might take 10 to 20 years to qualify for?
Violence Jack
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I could've sworn proper police procedure was to deescalate the situation. And he still gets canned for doing the right thing. A lot of cops are all too happy to just end someone's life without even trying to talk them down.
family_guy
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Sad story, but I noticed that the part where he said he was a former Marine and had training on how to assess situations. This is the kind of training that needs to be given to police officers.
Crabernacle
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Absolutely disgusting, but sadly emblematic of the current attitude of law enforcement. The reprimand almost sounds cartoonishly villainous, "Sorry, but we're not in the business of de-escalating situations. Mozambique drill then sprinkle a little crack on him."
Mr. Giggles
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Dude even served his country in Afghanistan.... Fucking hell.
Earthstrike
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When a person who was ruled to violent to be a cop, followed a black child who had broken no law, despite being instructed no to by 911, and gets into a fight and kills him, he receives a defense fund from conservatives and from other cops.
When a veteran uses his judgement correctly, and opts not to instantly kill someone who was suicidal, he doesn't receive a lick of sympathy from cops or conservatives.
Policing is starting to become partisan, and it's a very dangerous precedent.
When a veteran uses his judgement correctly, and opts not to instantly kill someone who was suicidal, he doesn't receive a lick of sympathy from cops or conservatives.
Policing is starting to become partisan, and it's a very dangerous precedent.
From the description of the shooting itself, the guy had started to advance on them and was waving a gun, expressly with the motive of provoking them to shoot him, so I don't know that I think the other two officers can be said to have acted totally inappropriately.
However, firing Mader is insane, given that he displayed exceptional instincts and could perhaps have talked the guy down with more time. That's exactly the sort of person you want on the police force.
However, firing Mader is insane, given that he displayed exceptional instincts and could perhaps have talked the guy down with more time. That's exactly the sort of person you want on the police force.
fart town usa
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System is totally corrupt. What an embarrassment.
Lucky Seven
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People are awful. I just don't understand them, and this story just makes me sadder.
LegendofJoe
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A good police department needs to give this guy a job ASAP. People like him deserve to be rewarded, not punished. Hopefully this thread will get bumped when positive karma finds this man.
SolidSnakeUS
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So now we have a system where you have to kill instead of detain. I really hope this cop sues the department.
Muppet of a Man
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Apparently, if you don't make your kill quota as part of the mafia, you are left to rot in the gutter.
Alpha Centauri
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Great human being, terrible cop.
He didn't have the right mentality. Certain psychological profiles fit, and others don't.
It's well past time that we acknowledge that cops protect order, not people. Anything to the contrary being said is propaganda and/or a lie.
He didn't have the right mentality. Certain psychological profiles fit, and others don't.
It's well past time that we acknowledge that cops protect order, not people. Anything to the contrary being said is propaganda and/or a lie.
fart town usa
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Exactly, and if I can change course but follow a similar line of thought, as a veteran I cannot stand all the jingoism on display in regards to the supposed respect of our service men and women and veterans in general. Not every military member is a hero and these wars overseas do not ensure our freedoms domestically.
What you have here is a true hero who served his country and did the right thing but gets totally worked over because he didn't follow the nonsense nationalistic and widely adopted "patriot"/law enforcement mentality.
What a joke.
He did find a profession worthy of him. He's exactly what a cop should be.
Fuck that police chief, department, and state
Pinko Marx
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FUCKING WOW.
The story was bad enough but then I got to the punchline and legit threw my hands into the air.
WHAT THE FUCK
The story was bad enough but then I got to the punchline and legit threw my hands into the air.
WHAT THE FUCK
other departments won't want to hire him because the rank and file would never want a coworker that they know isn't casually homicidal
i could easily see unions blocking it or somehow causing enough trouble to keep him unemployed
Linkstrikesback
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What the?
It sounds to me like he's a great human being and a great cop. The people who came in after him and shot the victim are the terrible cops. It confuses me that you think they should protect "order" and not people in America, that should never be the case, and it absolutely should be the other way around.
he wasn't a good cop, good cops would have instantly shot to kill
protect and serve has always been a lie sold to the public
Fenderputty
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But police don't have an institutional problem. None at all.
NeOak
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Alpha Centauri
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When did I say anything about should?
By the standards and procedures he is a terrible cop. The job is beneath him as a human being IMO.
edit: To expound slightly...
Cops aren't the good guys. Sooner that becomes apparent, you understand why he was fired. Maybe that is too jaded, but its how i feel at this time.
Pinko Marx
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What is he wrong? Dude isn't fit to be a cop in the current institution. He showed discipline, presence of mind, and empathy for human life. No way should he have a badge.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
Oh boy I hope you are joking if not you are a lunatic
Fucking hell.. and i just rant about no justice for people in another thread about the police shooting a motorcyclist in the neck for blocking him, and now you have a good cop being pinalised for actually saving a man? And now that sane man was gunned fown by the police in the sane work force? And now the officer is fired and not get a pension??! Really??
Im going to sleep. I had enough for the day. Even though parts of the story doesn't make sense, it is still fucked up and im tired.
Im going to sleep. I had enough for the day. Even though parts of the story doesn't make sense, it is still fucked up and im tired.
calling the cops is a bad idea in general except as an extreme last resort
if you're lucky they'll do nothing, if you're unlucky someone's getting unnecessarily shot and/or arrested
Alpha Centauri
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This.
Thank you
Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) is an oft-quoted[2] District of Columbia Court of Appeals case that held that the police do not owe a specific duty to provide police services to citizens based on the public duty doctrine.
Im not a lunatic.
fart town usa
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BinaryPork2737
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Don't you worry, there are plenty of American cops protecting the people in control and their property ("order") while murdering and wounding people that aren't so lucky.
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